Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:11 pm Post subject: Joel Embiid
Will be very interesting to see how he develops the next 4 months. If he improves, I would think you have to take someone with Hakeem upside over Carmelo or Tracy Mcgrady upside. Would love to have him on the Lakers next year.
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I love this guy as well. His footwork seems so natural from the videos I have seen and also seems to have some nice touch around the basket. With a lot of hard work he can be great. (I think)
I have been saying all along hes learning so fast and developing quickly that GMs are drooling over this guy because they think he can actually mold into a Hakeem player, he is easily a top 5 pick his upside besides Wiggins is off the charts
Seriously though, I've had my eye on Embiid for a while now. I would LOVE to see the Lakers get him. He could be a solid building block for the future.
This year's draft is unbelievable. You end up with a #6 or better pick and you're guaranteed a good player. Really all of the projected top 10 look great.
Wiggins, Randle, Parker, Exum, Gordon, Embiid. -- That's my order.
He could be good, but I have a feeling we're entering a new golden age of big men (not necessarily centers);
D12 will probably be relevant for at least four more years. Hibbert and Marc Gasol can play at this level for at least five more. Then there's Love and Griffin probably for the next ten. Then you have young guns like Vucevic, Cousins, Drummond and Davis. Nerlens Noel as well if he can come back as the player he was before tearing his ACL.
He could be good, but I have a feeling we're entering a new golden age of big men (not necessarily centers);
D12 will probably be relevant for at least four more years. Hibbert and Marc Gasol can play at this level for at least five more. Then there's Love and Griffin probably for the next ten. Then you have young guns like Vucevic, Cousins, Drummond and Davis. Nerlens Noel as well if he can come back as the player he was before tearing his ACL.
Can Embiid keep up with these guys?
we're in the golden age of point guards.
these big men have nothing on the big men of previous decades. nothing. _________________ Kobe
He could be good, but I have a feeling we're entering a new golden age of big men (not necessarily centers);
D12 will probably be relevant for at least four more years. Hibbert and Marc Gasol can play at this level for at least five more. Then there's Love and Griffin probably for the next ten. Then you have young guns like Vucevic, Cousins, Drummond and Davis. Nerlens Noel as well if he can come back as the player he was before tearing his ACL.
Can Embiid keep up with these guys?
we're in the golden age of point guards.
these big men have nothing on the big men of previous decades. nothing.
Apples and oranges
Sure, big men back then had a better back-to-the-basket game and, I'm guessing, they're physically stronger.
These new school guys (with the exception of Hibbert and Gasol) can play, and most importantly, guard multiple positions, can handle the ball better and are more athletic.
They aren't necessarily better or worse; they're just different.
As for the PGs, I think the new crop is getting way too much credit. The PG position is deep, but I can only see CP3, Westbrook, Rose, Irving and Curry as the ones with a chance of winning an MVP in their careers. The other guys, like Wall, Holiday, MCW, are good but I'm not too convinced they'll contend for that "best player alive" status.
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:27 pm Post subject:
He may not be perceived as quick or jump as high as Hakeem, but I think we're judging a polished Akeem Olajuwon out of college.
Honestly, I would debate Embiid #1. All of the physical tools with the hoop IQ, should make adding a post game naturally easy. Fluid athlete with mobile, heavy feet. Once those feet are set, they're planted, and that's idea for holding post position. Nevermind the fact that he's unselfish and has a shooting touch at the FT line. _________________ Resident Car Nut.
He may not be perceived as quick or jump as high as Hakeem, but I think we're judging a polished Akeem Olajuwon out of college.
Honestly, I would debate Embiid #1. All of the physical tools with the hoop IQ, should make adding a post game naturally easy. Fluid athlete with mobile, heavy feet. Once those feet are set, they're planted, and that's idea for holding post position. Nevermind the fact that he's unselfish and has a shooting touch at the FT line.
agree w/embiid at #1 even if he enters the draft after just a single season(assuming he keeps developing at this rate)
what would lock it up imo would be hand measurements. if he has giant hands that he can grip the ball with like other freak centers e.g. deandre j then it makes him that much more complete. babyhands force too much extra thought for moves imo. have to be conscious of it getting stripped, etc. if you have a vicegrip on the ball like a kawhi leonard it just opens up the moveset
9 points / 8 rebounds / 1.7 assist / 1 block at 69.2%FG in 19 minutes, it looks quite good so far.
He doesn't seem better than most big guys at the FT line (56.3%) and I would expect a bit more blocks for a 7-footer but that's not bad.
Being a center he will be picked higher than he would be if being at an other position. He is announced mid top 10 so far.
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