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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | governator wrote: | | This Kavanaugh, if Dems can pull it off, can be mega (not maga) huge. If successfully impeached, dems can hold off on appointing another SCJ since GOP has set presedence regarding POTUS appointing SCJ in his last year/on election year, along with the concern for RBG health (incase she has to retire prior to election), we can end up with 5-4 progressive majority |
The bar for removing Justice Brett Kavanaugh by impeachment is so high as to be insurmountable. But there may be another way.
How to remove Brett Kavanaugh without impeaching him |
Term limits for justices. The trick of nominating these judges while they're still fairly young is nauseating. |
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| Wilt wrote: | Somehow, it's only he that exercises his free speech rights and fights against "political correctness," while people opposing him can't exercise those same rights when they rightly criticizes him. As has been said above, he's just a good old narcissist.
Granted, I do watch his show most of the time. And it's one of the few shows that I watch not for the host, but for the guests. And if the guests aren't good, the show becomes unwatchable. |
I couldn't count all the times in the past he said the people who fight against pot are people who don't use it. The people who fight against gay marriage are people who identify as straight.
If only he could connect those arguments to issues of predation and discrimination he personally doesn't experience.
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| greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | governator wrote: | | This Kavanaugh, if Dems can pull it off, can be mega (not maga) huge. If successfully impeached, dems can hold off on appointing another SCJ since GOP has set presedence regarding POTUS appointing SCJ in his last year/on election year, along with the concern for RBG health (incase she has to retire prior to election), we can end up with 5-4 progressive majority |
The bar for removing Justice Brett Kavanaugh by impeachment is so high as to be insurmountable. But there may be another way.
How to remove Brett Kavanaugh without impeaching him |
Term limits for justices. The trick of nominating these judges while they're still fairly young is nauseating. |
well, they're supposed to be non-partisan |
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| governator wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | governator wrote: | | This Kavanaugh, if Dems can pull it off, can be mega (not maga) huge. If successfully impeached, dems can hold off on appointing another SCJ since GOP has set presedence regarding POTUS appointing SCJ in his last year/on election year, along with the concern for RBG health (incase she has to retire prior to election), we can end up with 5-4 progressive majority |
The bar for removing Justice Brett Kavanaugh by impeachment is so high as to be insurmountable. But there may be another way.
How to remove Brett Kavanaugh without impeaching him |
Term limits for justices. The trick of nominating these judges while they're still fairly young is nauseating. |
well, they're supposed to be non-partisan |
Yep. As long as the Republican choices are now groomed directly or indirectly via the Heritage Foundation point of view, to churn out ideologues with a specific point of view, we will not have a court with an independent point of view.
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Listening to the Cory Lewandowski hearing, I would say, what a joke, but that is an insult to even the worst joke. The hearing just began and we are on the second obstructionist vote per Republicans to stop the hearing or simply to create chaos.
Oh yeah, and Lewandowski was instructed by the White House not to answer questions about conversations between he and Trump, as per executive privilege, even though these conversations occurred before Trump was elected--iow, before he was the executive.
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| slavavov wrote: | | kikanga wrote: |
My issue is really Maher's hypocrisy. He'll complain about "social justice warriors" and the "me too movement" as much as possible and then have a guest on that talks about anti-semitism and he'll spend the whole time agreeing with them. Zero self awareness. It's alright for people to be offended and for them to stand up against discrimination they perceive. If Bill perceives it as well. Otherwise you're just a far left liberal who won't help Dems win any elections.
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I think the reason Maher criticizes those people is because of their alleged overt political correctness, and especially how it turns off non-liberals. He agrees with their stance on equality, justice and liberty, but it's the messaging he doesn't like. Remember, his original show was called "Politically Incorrect".
As a hard core liberal/progressive, I like how Maher interviews conservatives and criticizes some liberals. And, you know what, when he criticizes our fellow liberals for stuff like political correctness and failing to criticize Muslim/middle eastern culture, I agree with him because he sounds so common sense. |
Exactly how I feel about Maher, well said.
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| greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | governator wrote: | | This Kavanaugh, if Dems can pull it off, can be mega (not maga) huge. If successfully impeached, dems can hold off on appointing another SCJ since GOP has set presedence regarding POTUS appointing SCJ in his last year/on election year, along with the concern for RBG health (incase she has to retire prior to election), we can end up with 5-4 progressive majority |
The bar for removing Justice Brett Kavanaugh by impeachment is so high as to be insurmountable. But there may be another way.
How to remove Brett Kavanaugh without impeaching him |
Term limits for justices. The trick of nominating these judges while they're still fairly young is nauseating. |
I agree. Make the term same as FBI Director 10 years.
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| ribeye wrote: | Listening to the Cory Lewandowski hearing, I would say, what a joke, but that is an insult to even the worst joke. The hearing just began and we are on the second obstructionist vote per Republicans to stop the hearing or simply to create chaos.
Oh yeah, and Lewandowski was instructed by the White House not to answer questions about conversations between he and Trump, as per executive privilege, even though these conversations occurred before Trump was elected--iow, before he was the executive. |
WOMP WOMP
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=Lewandowski+WOMP+WOMP
‘Womp Womp’: Corey Lewandowski Mocks Child With Down Syndrome Separated From Mother
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/business/media/corey-lewandowski-womp-womp-down-syndrome.html
Can America survive Trump and his influence on the worst parts of the human mind?
I think we need a new Survivor America.. Constitution/Bill of Rights/Rule of Law.. will any of them survive
Truth/Honesty
Decorum
Any modicum of respect
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‘Uncle Joe’ Biden Courts The Youth Vote
“Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said one student at Texas Southern University, a historically Black college in Houston.
Wading through throngs of students during a surprise visit at a historically Black university here on Friday, Joe Biden felt the love from a contingent of voters he doesn’t see often at his campaign events: young people.
“It’s Uncle Joe!” one teenager shouted to a friend as the 76-year-old former vice president made his way around the student center at Texas Southern University, which was established in 1946 when Texas was still a segregated state.
Biden was the only candidate who met with students there after last week’s Democratic presidential primary debate, which took place on the campus a day prior. He spent approximately 45 minutes shaking hands, posing for selfies, and giving hugs to star-struck students. Judging the reaction from among some in the crowd, one would have guessed it was actually former President Barack Obama making the rounds.
“I think if there’s a Democrat that has a chance of winning, it’s definitely Biden. Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said Chynna Barcass, a junior at TSU who is studying political science.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | ‘Uncle Joe’ Biden Courts The Youth Vote
“Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said one student at Texas Southern University, a historically Black college in Houston.
Wading through throngs of students during a surprise visit at a historically Black university here on Friday, Joe Biden felt the love from a contingent of voters he doesn’t see often at his campaign events: young people.
“It’s Uncle Joe!” one teenager shouted to a friend as the 76-year-old former vice president made his way around the student center at Texas Southern University, which was established in 1946 when Texas was still a segregated state.
Biden was the only candidate who met with students there after last week’s Democratic presidential primary debate, which took place on the campus a day prior. He spent approximately 45 minutes shaking hands, posing for selfies, and giving hugs to star-struck students. Judging the reaction from among some in the crowd, one would have guessed it was actually former President Barack Obama making the rounds.
“I think if there’s a Democrat that has a chance of winning, it’s definitely Biden. Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said Chynna Barcass, a junior at TSU who is studying political science.
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| greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | ‘Uncle Joe’ Biden Courts The Youth Vote
“Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said one student at Texas Southern University, a historically Black college in Houston.
Wading through throngs of students during a surprise visit at a historically Black university here on Friday, Joe Biden felt the love from a contingent of voters he doesn’t see often at his campaign events: young people.
“It’s Uncle Joe!” one teenager shouted to a friend as the 76-year-old former vice president made his way around the student center at Texas Southern University, which was established in 1946 when Texas was still a segregated state.
Biden was the only candidate who met with students there after last week’s Democratic presidential primary debate, which took place on the campus a day prior. He spent approximately 45 minutes shaking hands, posing for selfies, and giving hugs to star-struck students. Judging the reaction from among some in the crowd, one would have guessed it was actually former President Barack Obama making the rounds.
“I think if there’s a Democrat that has a chance of winning, it’s definitely Biden. Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said Chynna Barcass, a junior at TSU who is studying political science.
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Record players, standing up to CornPop... he's a hero. |
He's all the kids were talking about the sock hop and ice cream socials I attended over the weekend. |
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Every person he hired hates the department they work for and everything associated with it
Will Republicans ever stop stabbing themselves in the face
Trump plans to revoke key California environmental power; state officials vow fight
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| Hector the Pup wrote: | | greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | ‘Uncle Joe’ Biden Courts The Youth Vote
“Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said one student at Texas Southern University, a historically Black college in Houston.
Wading through throngs of students during a surprise visit at a historically Black university here on Friday, Joe Biden felt the love from a contingent of voters he doesn’t see often at his campaign events: young people.
“It’s Uncle Joe!” one teenager shouted to a friend as the 76-year-old former vice president made his way around the student center at Texas Southern University, which was established in 1946 when Texas was still a segregated state.
Biden was the only candidate who met with students there after last week’s Democratic presidential primary debate, which took place on the campus a day prior. He spent approximately 45 minutes shaking hands, posing for selfies, and giving hugs to star-struck students. Judging the reaction from among some in the crowd, one would have guessed it was actually former President Barack Obama making the rounds.
“I think if there’s a Democrat that has a chance of winning, it’s definitely Biden. Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said Chynna Barcass, a junior at TSU who is studying political science.
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Record players, standing up to CornPop... he's a hero. |
He's all the kids were talking about the sock hop and ice cream socials I attended over the weekend. |
AM Radio
Gun racks
Church
Did he have television as a child? |
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| greenfrog wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | ‘Uncle Joe’ Biden Courts The Youth Vote
“Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said one student at Texas Southern University, a historically Black college in Houston.
Wading through throngs of students during a surprise visit at a historically Black university here on Friday, Joe Biden felt the love from a contingent of voters he doesn’t see often at his campaign events: young people.
“It’s Uncle Joe!” one teenager shouted to a friend as the 76-year-old former vice president made his way around the student center at Texas Southern University, which was established in 1946 when Texas was still a segregated state.
Biden was the only candidate who met with students there after last week’s Democratic presidential primary debate, which took place on the campus a day prior. He spent approximately 45 minutes shaking hands, posing for selfies, and giving hugs to star-struck students. Judging the reaction from among some in the crowd, one would have guessed it was actually former President Barack Obama making the rounds.
“I think if there’s a Democrat that has a chance of winning, it’s definitely Biden. Everybody wants another Obama and he’s the closest thing we can get,” said Chynna Barcass, a junior at TSU who is studying political science.
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Gotta make sure the kids hear words.
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| Trump continued: "Nobody loves the Hispanics more. Who do you like more, the country or the Hispanics? |
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Meanwhile Warren gave an anti-corruption speech in Washington Square Park in NYC last night that drew about 20,000 people and she stayed for 4 hours after the speech to take selfies with everyone who wanted one. She tied the history of the shirtwaist factory fire into today's corruption and her plan to combat it.
NYT: Elizabeth Warren, at Washington Sq. Park Rally, Promises to Take On Corruption. Before a crowd of thousands in New York City, Ms. Warren invoked the power of women to bring about sweeping change.
| Quote: | Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts brought her ascendant presidential campaign to New York City on Monday night, unspooling a forceful argument for attacking corruption in government in a defining speech of her White House bid.
Addressing thousands of supporters in Washington Square Park, some holding up “I’m a Warren Democrat” signs, Ms. Warren pressed her case to bring sweeping change to an economic and political system she views as fundamentally tilted to favor the wealthy and powerful.
She spoke near the site of the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire of 1911, which killed 146 garment workers, most of them women. The fire spurred a push to improve workplace safety, which Ms. Warren harnessed as a parallel for the far-reaching change she wants to pursue as president. |
| Quote: | | “There’s a lot at stake in this election, and I know people are scared,” Ms. Warren said from a lectern in front of the park’s marble arch. “But we can’t choose a candidate we don’t believe in just because we’re too scared to do anything else. And Democrats can’t win if we’re scared and looking backward.” |
| Quote: | “The tragic story of the Triangle factory fire is a story about power,” she said. “A story of what happens when the rich and the powerful take control of government and use it to increase their own profits while they stick it to working people. But what happened in the aftermath of the fire is a different story about power — a story about our power, a story about what’s possible when we fight together as one.”
Ms. Warren told the story of Frances Perkins, citing her efforts after the Triangle factory fire to improve conditions for workers, and, later, her tenure as labor secretary for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. |
| Quote: | As is her custom, Ms. Warren stayed after her speech to take pictures with anyone who wanted one. Linus Glenhaber, 18, a college student from Massachusetts, worked on his science homework as he waited.
He praised Ms. Warren for how she reached back into American history as she spoke of corruption. “When she was talking about the Triangle shirtwaist factory,” he said, “it felt relevant to today in this incredible way.”
Ms. Warren finished taking pictures around 11:40 p.m. — nearly four hours after she finished her speech. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | Meanwhile Warren gave an anti-corruption speech in Washington Square Park in NYC last night that drew about 20,000 people and she stayed for 4 hours after the speech to take selfies with everyone who wanted one. She tied the history of the shirtwaist factory fire into today's corruption and her plan to combat it.
NYT: Elizabeth Warren, at Washington Sq. Park Rally, Promises to Take On Corruption. Before a crowd of thousands in New York City, Ms. Warren invoked the power of women to bring about sweeping change.
| Quote: | Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts brought her ascendant presidential campaign to New York City on Monday night, unspooling a forceful argument for attacking corruption in government in a defining speech of her White House bid.
Addressing thousands of supporters in Washington Square Park, some holding up “I’m a Warren Democrat” signs, Ms. Warren pressed her case to bring sweeping change to an economic and political system she views as fundamentally tilted to favor the wealthy and powerful.
She spoke near the site of the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire of 1911, which killed 146 garment workers, most of them women. The fire spurred a push to improve workplace safety, which Ms. Warren harnessed as a parallel for the far-reaching change she wants to pursue as president. |
| Quote: | | “There’s a lot at stake in this election, and I know people are scared,” Ms. Warren said from a lectern in front of the park’s marble arch. “But we can’t choose a candidate we don’t believe in just because we’re too scared to do anything else. And Democrats can’t win if we’re scared and looking backward.” |
| Quote: | “The tragic story of the Triangle factory fire is a story about power,” she said. “A story of what happens when the rich and the powerful take control of government and use it to increase their own profits while they stick it to working people. But what happened in the aftermath of the fire is a different story about power — a story about our power, a story about what’s possible when we fight together as one.”
Ms. Warren told the story of Frances Perkins, citing her efforts after the Triangle factory fire to improve conditions for workers, and, later, her tenure as labor secretary for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. |
| Quote: | As is her custom, Ms. Warren stayed after her speech to take pictures with anyone who wanted one. Linus Glenhaber, 18, a college student from Massachusetts, worked on his science homework as he waited.
He praised Ms. Warren for how she reached back into American history as she spoke of corruption. “When she was talking about the Triangle shirtwaist factory,” he said, “it felt relevant to today in this incredible way.”
Ms. Warren finished taking pictures around 11:40 p.m. — nearly four hours after she finished her speech. |
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Sharp contrast to Uncle Joe waxing nostalgically about the days of scratching up straight-razors and soaking them in rainwater . . .
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | Meanwhile Warren gave an anti-corruption speech in Washington Square Park in NYC last night that drew about 20,000 people and she stayed for 4 hours after the speech to take selfies with everyone who wanted one. She tied the history of the shirtwaist factory fire into today's corruption and her plan to combat it.
NYT: Elizabeth Warren, at Washington Sq. Park Rally, Promises to Take On Corruption. Before a crowd of thousands in New York City, Ms. Warren invoked the power of women to bring about sweeping change.
| Quote: | Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts brought her ascendant presidential campaign to New York City on Monday night, unspooling a forceful argument for attacking corruption in government in a defining speech of her White House bid.
Addressing thousands of supporters in Washington Square Park, some holding up “I’m a Warren Democrat” signs, Ms. Warren pressed her case to bring sweeping change to an economic and political system she views as fundamentally tilted to favor the wealthy and powerful.
She spoke near the site of the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire of 1911, which killed 146 garment workers, most of them women. The fire spurred a push to improve workplace safety, which Ms. Warren harnessed as a parallel for the far-reaching change she wants to pursue as president. |
| Quote: | | “There’s a lot at stake in this election, and I know people are scared,” Ms. Warren said from a lectern in front of the park’s marble arch. “But we can’t choose a candidate we don’t believe in just because we’re too scared to do anything else. And Democrats can’t win if we’re scared and looking backward.” |
| Quote: | “The tragic story of the Triangle factory fire is a story about power,” she said. “A story of what happens when the rich and the powerful take control of government and use it to increase their own profits while they stick it to working people. But what happened in the aftermath of the fire is a different story about power — a story about our power, a story about what’s possible when we fight together as one.”
Ms. Warren told the story of Frances Perkins, citing her efforts after the Triangle factory fire to improve conditions for workers, and, later, her tenure as labor secretary for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. |
| Quote: | As is her custom, Ms. Warren stayed after her speech to take pictures with anyone who wanted one. Linus Glenhaber, 18, a college student from Massachusetts, worked on his science homework as he waited.
He praised Ms. Warren for how she reached back into American history as she spoke of corruption. “When she was talking about the Triangle shirtwaist factory,” he said, “it felt relevant to today in this incredible way.”
Ms. Warren finished taking pictures around 11:40 p.m. — nearly four hours after she finished her speech. |
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Don't forget the record players! Those record players could've helped raise a generation.
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| kikanga wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | Meanwhile Warren gave an anti-corruption speech in Washington Square Park in NYC last night that drew about 20,000 people and she stayed for 4 hours after the speech to take selfies with everyone who wanted one. She tied the history of the shirtwaist factory fire into today's corruption and her plan to combat it.
NYT: Elizabeth Warren, at Washington Sq. Park Rally, Promises to Take On Corruption. Before a crowd of thousands in New York City, Ms. Warren invoked the power of women to bring about sweeping change.
| Quote: | Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts brought her ascendant presidential campaign to New York City on Monday night, unspooling a forceful argument for attacking corruption in government in a defining speech of her White House bid.
Addressing thousands of supporters in Washington Square Park, some holding up “I’m a Warren Democrat” signs, Ms. Warren pressed her case to bring sweeping change to an economic and political system she views as fundamentally tilted to favor the wealthy and powerful.
She spoke near the site of the Triangle shirtwaist factory fire of 1911, which killed 146 garment workers, most of them women. The fire spurred a push to improve workplace safety, which Ms. Warren harnessed as a parallel for the far-reaching change she wants to pursue as president. |
| Quote: | | “There’s a lot at stake in this election, and I know people are scared,” Ms. Warren said from a lectern in front of the park’s marble arch. “But we can’t choose a candidate we don’t believe in just because we’re too scared to do anything else. And Democrats can’t win if we’re scared and looking backward.” |
| Quote: | “The tragic story of the Triangle factory fire is a story about power,” she said. “A story of what happens when the rich and the powerful take control of government and use it to increase their own profits while they stick it to working people. But what happened in the aftermath of the fire is a different story about power — a story about our power, a story about what’s possible when we fight together as one.”
Ms. Warren told the story of Frances Perkins, citing her efforts after the Triangle factory fire to improve conditions for workers, and, later, her tenure as labor secretary for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. |
| Quote: | As is her custom, Ms. Warren stayed after her speech to take pictures with anyone who wanted one. Linus Glenhaber, 18, a college student from Massachusetts, worked on his science homework as he waited.
He praised Ms. Warren for how she reached back into American history as she spoke of corruption. “When she was talking about the Triangle shirtwaist factory,” he said, “it felt relevant to today in this incredible way.”
Ms. Warren finished taking pictures around 11:40 p.m. — nearly four hours after she finished her speech. |
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Sharp contrast to Uncle Joe waxing nostalgically about the days of scratching up straight-razors and soaking them in rainwater . . . |
Don't forget the record players! Those record players could've helped raise a generation. |
He's into 180g vinyl. You're just not hip.
Regardless, his support in the black community appears to be rock solid. It doesn't even matter how bad he flubs. |
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| greenfrog wrote: | He's into 180g vinyl. You're just not hip.
Regardless, his support in the black community appears to be rock solid. It doesn't even matter how bad he flubs. |
The black community knows. You haven't listened to Miles Davis's "Kind of Blue" till you listened to it on vinyl.
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| ChefLinda wrote: | Imagine lurking this thread and never being upset enough to post a reaction to children being locked in cages; or the vast number of corruption stories at every level of the Trump administration; or the evidence of the President lying to the American people almost 20,000 times as documented in Washington Post and NYT; or writer E.G. Carroll telling her graphic story of how Trump raped her; or the EPA rolling back regulations allowing toxic chemicals to once again be dumped into the nation's water supply, food supply and air; Trump's outrageous twitter attacks on both private and public citizens, people of color, news organizations including name calling, bullying, threats, intimidation and coercion and violence inciting rhetoric; you watch the US pull out of the Paris accords and while the world's climate warms at alarming rates producing record high temperatures, hurricanes, fires and crop failures you watch the Trump administration fire scientists in mass, put gas, oil and coal executives in charge of energy policy which includes denying climate change and rolling back decades of energy policy and pollution standards.
So imagine you have nothing to say about any of that, but the thing that really gets your goat and provokes you to respond is the perceived "unfair" treatment of Brett Kavanaugh now that new witnesses have told their stories to the press. And you can keep quiet no longer and spring to his defense because you know, now that there is more corroboration for Christine Blasey Ford's compelling and graphic testimony that was deemed credible by the majority of the country yet earned her nothing but death threats, is just a bridge to far. The real victim here, the victim worth defending, is Brett Kavanaugh. |
The Trump presidency has revealed the authoritarian tendencies of so many Republicans, as well as how insulated they are in their Fox News/Breitbart/Alex Jones bubble. It's also revealed that these so-called conservatives aren't true ideological conservatives in the sense of believing in personal liberty, small government or the separation of church and state.
It's extremely scary how Trumpers continue to blindly support him no matter what he says or does because they think he's literally the savior of western civilization (to borrow a quote from Candace Owens).
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| Rachel Maddow is going to have Elizabeth Warren on tonight live in studio. |
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First poll since Democratic debate last week. NBC/WSJ poll: Biden leads Dem 2020 field, Warren's support grows
| Quote: | Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., continue to top the Democratic 2020 presidential field after last week’s debate — in a race for the nomination that breaks along ideological and racial lines, according to a national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday.
The survey also shows that Warren has the advantage in enthusiasm, and that she gets the most second-choice support.
Biden leads the overall horserace with backing from 31 percent of Democratic primary voters (up 5 points since July), while Warren gets 25 percent (up 6 points). |
| Quote: | Biden 31% (+5)
Warren 25% (+6)
Sanders 14% (+1)
Buttigieg 7% (same)
Harris 5% (-8%) |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | First poll since Democratic debate last week. NBC/WSJ poll: Biden leads Dem 2020 field, Warren's support grows
| Quote: | Former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., continue to top the Democratic 2020 presidential field after last week’s debate — in a race for the nomination that breaks along ideological and racial lines, according to a national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Tuesday.
The survey also shows that Warren has the advantage in enthusiasm, and that she gets the most second-choice support.
Biden leads the overall horserace with backing from 31 percent of Democratic primary voters (up 5 points since July), while Warren gets 25 percent (up 6 points). |
| Quote: | Biden 31% (+5)
Warren 25% (+6)
Sanders 14% (+1)
Buttigieg 7% (same)
Harris 5% (-8%) |
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If Sanders eventually drops out, his endorsement could determine the whole thing. Ideologically, the choice for who to endorse is obvious.
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