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This is a long read. I'm just starting. I'm going to take my time and read the entire writing. I'll do it little by little.
Project 2025.
Suggestion;If you haven't already take the time to read the entire writing.
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This article by Time magazine is yet another instance of the failure of the mainstream media to report what Trump is planning to do? |
The second part of my post answers your question. This will be forgotten in a day. The reporting has to be persistent and has to be the lead story on every network news show, every mainstream cable news show, every freaking day. That's the point I made.
Now compare this to the coverage of Biden's age that went on for months and had a deep impact on his popularity that is probably irreversible.
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| Wilt wrote: | | focus wrote: |
This article by Time magazine is yet another instance of the failure of the mainstream media to report what Trump is planning to do? |
The second part of my post answers your question. This will be forgotten in a day. The reporting has to be persistent and has to be the lead story on every network news show, every mainstream cable news show, every freaking day. That's the point I made.
Now compare this to the coverage of Biden's age that went on for months and had a deep impact on his popularity that is probably irreversible.
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And the lack of coverage of the many great things he has accomplished during his term.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | focus wrote: |
This article by Time magazine is yet another instance of the failure of the mainstream media to report what Trump is planning to do? |
The second part of my post answers your question. This will be forgotten in a day. The reporting has to be persistent and has to be the lead story on every network news show, every mainstream cable news show, every freaking day. That's the point I made.
Now compare this to the coverage of Biden's age that went on for months and had a deep impact on his popularity that is probably irreversible.
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And the lack of coverage of the many great things he has accomplished during his term. |
That's one of my pet peeves. Is there a way to get the media to accentuate his accomplishments? Do they have any influence with entities like CNN, MSN, and YAHOO? I think the administration should explore ways to bullhorn its accomplishments.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Violent clashes between protestors at the UCLA encampment. |
I'm impressed with the protestors restraint. The counter protestors have shot fireworks at them. Attacked the encampment. Grabbed the barricades. Dragged people out of the encampment and beaten them.
ABC7 is blaming both sides. But this all happened when the counter protestors showed up and decided they wanted to dismantle the encampment themselves.
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | Violent clashes between protestors at the UCLA encampment. |
Hamas is laughing its asses off
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It's really disgusting how much these pro-Hamas, err, pro-Palestinian protestors are drinking the Kool-Aid and taking this to an extreme over something they didn't seem to care about until Hamas first attacked Israel in October. Many, if not most, of these protestors don't have a single Palestinian or Arab in their families.
I've seen video of many of these protestors wearing masks, not because of COVID, but because they don't want to be identified. That's a clear sign they don't want to protest peacefully -- they instead want to stir s*** up.
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| slavavov wrote: | It's really disgusting how much these pro-Hamas, err, pro-Palestinian protestors are drinking the Kool-Aid and taking this to an extreme over something they didn't seem to care about until Hamas first attacked Israel in October. Many, if not most, of these protestors don't have a single Palestinian or Arab in their families.
I've seen video of many of these protestors wearing masks, not because of COVID, but because they don't want to be identified. That's a clear sign they don't want to protest peacefully -- they instead want to stir s*** up. |
Gaza wasn't reduced to rubble before October.
These protests remind me of the Vietnam protests.
College kids are normally anti-war. And many (like the USC valedictorian) take courses that document genocides from the past. It makes sense.
It shows empathy to protest something even if it doesn't affect you or your family.
People have been doxxed and their family members have been threatened online. I'm not surprised people are masked up on both sides. The vast majority of people. Masked or not. Pro-Palestine or Pro-Israel. Are non-violent. But of course there are agitators.
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| kikanga wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | It's really disgusting how much these pro-Hamas, err, pro-Palestinian protestors are drinking the Kool-Aid and taking this to an extreme over something they didn't seem to care about until Hamas first attacked Israel in October. Many, if not most, of these protestors don't have a single Palestinian or Arab in their families.
I've seen video of many of these protestors wearing masks, not because of COVID, but because they don't want to be identified. That's a clear sign they don't want to protest peacefully -- they instead want to stir s*** up. |
Gaza wasn't reduced to rubble before October.
These protests remind me of the Vietnam protests.
College kids are normally anti-war. And many (like the USC valedictorian) take courses that document genocides from the past. It makes sense.
It shows empathy to protest something even if it doesn't affect you or your family.
People have been doxxed and their family members have been threatened online. I'm not surprised people are masked up on both sides. The vast majority of people. Masked or not. Pro-Palestine or Pro-Israel. Are non-violent. But of course there are agitators. |
I get that the "genocide" in Gaza has been bad, and I'm also against it. But these protesters are too obsessed with it. Again, the vast majority of them are white and have nothing to do with what's happening out there. Even worse, they will never hold Hamas or Iran accountable for trying to carry out their own genocide against innocent Jews.
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I get that the "genocide" in Gaza has been bad, and I'm also against it. But these protesters are too obsessed with it. Again, the vast majority of them are white and have nothing to do with what's happening out there. Even worse, they will never hold Hamas or Iran accountable for trying to carry out their own genocide against innocent Jews. |
Their tax dollars are supporting it. Their tuitions are supporting it. And again having empathy for people that aren't in your demographic isn't a bad thing. There are Jewish people protesting Israel's actions as well. Just like there were cops who marched with Black Lives Matter.
I've never heard the protestors supporting genocide. No matter who is committing it. Protesting one wrong doesn't mean you are accepting and supporting other wrongs.
Reminds me of the All Lives Matter arguments. Or when people were saying you shouldn't worry about COVID because other diseases are more deadly. And I'll say what I said during the pandemic. If I donate $ to fund breast cancer research. It doesn't mean I support all other forms of cancer. 
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | Assuming those are genuine thoughts and not trolling, what you said is thoroughly idiotic. |
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Pathetic. Just because I’m a moderate democrat and don’t support the far left ideas you guys do doesn’t mean I’m spreading lies when my point was Biden is just as bad as Trump. I voted for Biden, Hillary, and Obama since 2008 lmao
You called out my post as being idiotic, but you idiot mods are too thin skinned to be called morons because you can’t even admit Biden’s weak leadership is what’s causing the world economy and world order to fall
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | ChefLinda wrote: | Also, (bleep) BBB and anyone who would actually vote for lying, pathetic, POS criminal Trump. Whoever you are, you're as bad as him.
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In fairness to BigBaller, he stated he wouldn't vote for Trump, that he just wouldn't vote period. While one could argue that not voting for Biden is technically a vote for Trump, it's not at all the same as actually voting for and endorsing him.
Additionally, while I understand mods deleting actual insults, deleting BBB's other comments and simply labeling them as "lies and propaganda" doesn't do much for the integrity of this thread being an honest place for true political discussion were differing points of view are encouraged; it just comes off as censorship of dissenting views. If BBB's or anyone else's comments are genuinely lies and propaganda, it is easy to point that out with facts, and that is how the discussion should go versus just erasing anything that is viewed as problematic. Otherwise you guys may as well lock this thing up or relabel it The Democrat Echo Chamber. |
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| ChefLinda wrote: | New Trump interview with TIME Magazine. Here are the scary lowlights and link to article below. It's the Project 2025 Christo-Fascist plan on Trump steroids. Vote for fascist dictator who seeks to be above the law and wants to turn women into chattel because Biden is "weak" (because he doesn't act like a raging narcissist promising to destroy anyone who disagrees with him and seeks bi-partisanship and International coalitions). Also, (bleep) BBB and anyone who would actually vote for lying, pathetic, POS criminal Trump. Whoever you are, you're as bad as him.
| Quote: | Angry Staffer 🌻 @Angry_Staffer
I’ve written a few pieces on Project 2025 now, but this interview goes way more in depth than previous reporting on Trump’s plans. He says he:
- would let red states monitor and prosecute women who get abortions
- won’t commit to defending NATO nations
- would fire attorneys who won’t prosecute his political opponents
- would suspend posse comitatus and deploy the military on US soil
- would end the pandemic preparedness office
- would fire thousands of civil servants
- would pardon all of the J6 rioters
- would try to make law enforcement officers immune from prosecution
If this doesn’t scare the living (bleep) out of you, you aren’t paying attention. |
| Quote: | | What emerged in two interviews with Trump, and conversations with more than a dozen of his closest advisers and confidants, were the outlines of an imperial presidency that would reshape America and its role in the world. To carry out a deportation operation designed to remove more than 11 million people from the country, Trump told me, he would be willing to build migrant detention camps and deploy the U.S. military, both at the border and inland. He would let red states monitor women’s pregnancies and prosecute those who violate abortion bans. He would, at his personal discretion, withhold funds appropriated by Congress, according to top advisers. He would be willing to fire a U.S. Attorney who doesn’t carry out his order to prosecute someone, breaking with a tradition of independent law enforcement that dates from America’s founding. He is weighing pardons for every one of his supporters accused of attacking the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, more than 800 of whom have pleaded guilty or been convicted by a jury. He might not come to the aid of an attacked ally in Europe or Asia if he felt that country wasn’t paying enough for its own defense. He would gut the U.S. civil service, deploy the National Guard to American cities as he sees fit, close the White House pandemic-preparedness office, and staff his Administration with acolytes who back his false assertion that the 2020 election was stolen. |
TIME Interviews: How Far Trump Would Go |
I never voted for Trump you idiot. Again, you far left brainwashed Bernie / AoC fans got too brainwashed the last few years just bc you oppose Trump.
I too don’t support Trump, but I do not think all his supporters are bad people. If you jackasses actually travel and talk to good folks in America in red states (and also visit our allies in Asia, EU, and ME) you wills understand why people vote for Trump (our support him from overseas)
I doubt you socialists are open to talking to conservatives based on how you try to censor a moderate democrat like myself.
The lack of openness and the sense of moral superiority you far left children have is the reason why people support Trump in the first place.
Grow up and learn to listen to the other side instead of labeling 60% of Americans as morons
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Please give me an example or two of what I should listen to from a person whose intent is to be an autocrat, wants to dismantle democracy, take the rights of women, and is a racist sycophant to name a few negatives, there are many more but I think you get my drift. Searching the fathoms of what I've read and heard I can't find any positives. Please list a few. Make your argument my fellow Democrat.
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Voting is personal. We all have our reasons why. I know smart people I respect voting for trump, and when they break it down it sounds reasonable. However, as flawed as our institutions are they have navigated the USA into being far and away the best country and it’s not close. And anyone who would try to break that, though it will ultimately be unsuccessful even if elected should be voted against.
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| C M B wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | Violent clashes between protestors at the UCLA encampment. |
Hamas is laughing its asses off |
I'm sure the NVA appreciated the anti-war movement here in the '70's. Did that make the students at Kent State and other campuses wrong?
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| kikanga wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | It's really disgusting how much these pro-Hamas, err, pro-Palestinian protestors are drinking the Kool-Aid and taking this to an extreme over something they didn't seem to care about until Hamas first attacked Israel in October. Many, if not most, of these protestors don't have a single Palestinian or Arab in their families.
I've seen video of many of these protestors wearing masks, not because of COVID, but because they don't want to be identified. That's a clear sign they don't want to protest peacefully -- they instead want to stir s*** up. |
Gaza wasn't reduced to rubble before October.
These protests remind me of the Vietnam protests.
College kids are normally anti-war. And many (like the USC valedictorian) take courses that document genocides from the past. It makes sense.
It shows empathy to protest something even if it doesn't affect you or your family.
People have been doxxed and their family members have been threatened online. I'm not surprised people are masked up on both sides. The vast majority of people. Masked or not. Pro-Palestine or Pro-Israel. Are non-violent. But of course there are agitators. |
Exactly. one can hardly be against something before it actually occurs. And the false narrative that being against the intentionally indiscriminate bombings by Israel means one is pro-Hamas is asinine and offensive.
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | Assuming those are genuine thoughts and not trolling, what you said is thoroughly idiotic. |
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Pathetic. Just because I’m a moderate democrat and don’t support the far left ideas you guys do doesn’t mean I’m spreading lies when my point was Biden is just as bad as Trump. I voted for Biden, Hillary, and Obama since 2008 lmao
You called out my post as being idiotic, but you idiot mods are too thin skinned to be called morons because you can’t even admit Biden’s weak leadership is what’s causing the world economy and world order to fall |
There is a difference between calling a post idiotic and personally insulting someone as an idiot or moron. You might very well be an intelligent individual, but what you said is profoundly stupid for reasons that have been talked about in this thread at length for years and that can be fact checked easily.
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Pathetic. Just because I’m a moderate democrat and don’t support the far left ideas you guys do doesn’t mean I’m spreading lies when my point was Biden is just as bad as Trump. I voted for Biden, Hillary, and Obama since 2008 lmao
You called out my post as being idiotic, but you idiot mods are too thin skinned to be called morons because you can’t even admit Biden’s weak leadership is what’s causing the world economy and world order to fall |
Only one of these guys is acting like Neville Chamberlain with Russia, and openly saying he won't support our NATO allies like the TREATY calls for, and it sure isn't Biden. Which party is willing to give Russia everything it wants, even when the only cost is money and not boots on the ground? Reagan is probably rolling over in his grave.
The guy is a complete joke. America can't be isolationist and maintain the world order (including the supremacy of the dollar and everything that affords us domestically), but that's what MAGA wants. And to be clear, this only applies to MAGA - Trump, Greene, etc. As the last foreign aid vote showed, there are plenty of Republicans who are willing to work across the aisle to fight back against Russia; Trump and his loyalists are not. |
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| Wilt wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | | Wilt wrote: | | Assuming those are genuine thoughts and not trolling, what you said is thoroughly idiotic. |
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Pathetic. Just because I’m a moderate democrat and don’t support the far left ideas you guys do doesn’t mean I’m spreading lies when my point was Biden is just as bad as Trump. I voted for Biden, Hillary, and Obama since 2008 lmao
You called out my post as being idiotic, but you idiot mods are too thin skinned to be called morons because you can’t even admit Biden’s weak leadership is what’s causing the world economy and world order to fall |
There is a difference between calling a post idiotic and personally insulting someone as an idiot or moron. You might very well be an intelligent individual, but what you said is profoundly stupid for reasons that have been talked about in this thread at length for years and that can be fact checked easily. |
I mean, the statement “Biden is just as bad as Trump” is demonstrably idiotic, and embarrassingly so.
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I live in a red state. I moved from a different red state, and still work for the same company based in that state. No Trump supporter I’ve met has been able to offer any reason for their support of him that doesn’t boil
down to “he’s not a democrat” or “it pisses off democrats.” It’s either that or they are single issue anti abortion voters.
Two trump supporters at work that I used to go to lunch in a group with I had to completely stop associating with because they made racist remarks at lunch, apparently assuming because I’m white I was in on it with them. I do not consider them “good folks.” Their reason for supporting Trump also boiled down to pissing off democrats. |
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The support of trump by most mainstream republicans proved the point that American conservatism was never based on fiscal probity but rather on preservation of a caste. Even the ones who genuinely don’t think they are racist or xenophobes or imperialists or misogynists actually resonate with all of those things about Trump. Those are his only qualities. He’s demonstrated the opposite of all their supposed beliefs about law and order, personal responsibility, integrity, even basic competence. To support trump is to either openly embrace his character and fascism, or to deny reality to pretend you don’t. But it is his worst characteristics that drive all of his support. Atavism.
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| jodeke wrote: | BigBallerBrand wrote:
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Please give me an example or two of what I should listen to from a person whose intent is to be an autocrat, wants to dismantle democracy, take the rights of women, and is a racist sycophant to name a few negatives, there are many more but I think you get my drift. Searching the fathoms of what I've read and heard I can't find any positives. Please list a few. Make your argument my fellow Democrat. |
I can tell just from the premise of your remarks, and your narrow POV on abortion as evident of your complete lack of understanding on the issue.
Those that oppose Roe v Wade view the topic from a combination of angles: religious beliefs, role of central government, and morality (killing of a human baby).
I vehemently disagree with conservatives and their views on banning abortion. But I’m not here virtue signaling like you far left extremists and claiming moral superiority compared to the GOP. Give me a break. GOP aren’t sitting on their couch intentionally trying to restrict women rights lol.
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | BigBallerBrand wrote:
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Please give me an example or two of what I should listen to from a person whose intent is to be an autocrat, wants to dismantle democracy, take the rights of women, and is a racist sycophant to name a few negatives, there are many more but I think you get my drift. Searching the fathoms of what I've read and heard I can't find any positives. Please list a few. Make your argument my fellow Democrat. |
I can tell just from the premise of your remarks, and your narrow POV on abortion as evident of your complete lack of understanding on the issue.
Those that oppose Roe v Wade view the topic from a combination of angles: religious beliefs, role of central government, and morality (killing of a human baby).
I vehemently disagree with conservatives and their views on banning abortion. But I’m not here virtue signaling like you far left extremists and claiming moral superiority compared to the GOP. Give me a break. GOP aren’t sitting on their couch intentionally trying to restrict women rights lol. |
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