Joined: 17 Nov 2007 Posts: 67844 Location: In a world where admitting to not knowing something is considered a great way to learn.
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:00 pm Post subject:
yinoma2001 wrote:
I love you too. It's an opinion. That's all.
They're not refuting it with facts, just counter opinion. So it's all good talk. No one is offended nor is it outside the bounds of discourse here.
It's my opinion Kuz wants to start. He puts my in mind of JR. By that I mean he's more a me than team player. I also think if he accepts his role, coming off the bench, he'll eventually earn a starting position. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
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They're not refuting it with facts, just counter opinion. So it's all good talk. No one is offended nor is it outside the bounds of discourse here.
Ok...look dude...I asked you to bring some evidence to substantiate your claim...you definitely ain't doing that so here's some for mine so we can get back to work instead of talking about grown as men and their work.
Kuzma says straight up right here he wants to stay in LA.
Kuzma went to Kobe to get advice on what he needs to do to not get traded by someone Kobe knows very well...Kobe's advice 'Ball Out.'...Kuzma proceeds to ball out next 2 games.
Kuzma hasn't once had an issue with not starting.
Each of his teammates have praised him.
In OKC he stayed up until 5 talking Ball with Rondo and a couple other teammates.
There is legitimately zero smoke about him wanting to bounce.
There is minor smoke about Rob wanting to trade him.
And he's a fan favorite, especially among the ladies and young Laker fans.
Plus we refused to include him this summer, have him on a 2M contract, and get a player than can erupt for 36 any given night for peanuts.
And finally...Rob ain't stupid.
That's my evidence.
And I'm Out.
Oh yeah...Love you too? I'm never sure how to respond to someone who uses such an important phase in a sarcastic way...ok truth...I don't love you, but I do respect you...which is all I ask in return. _________________ "If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
^ I respect that. I gave my reasons for my opinion (i.e. no clear path to starting, affecting future earnings, etc.). You clearly disagree but I can respect it. This isn't a "show me your proof" b/c none of us know what's happening behind the scenes. We can only surmise and I have my hunches.
Now, whether that turns into a trade is another beast. We don't even know if it's factual that Rob has shopped Kuz or not. It's all fun speculation. No one has gone over the line here in making an opinion. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
^ I respect that. I gave my reasons for my opinion (i.e. no clear path to starting, affecting future earnings, etc.). You clearly disagree but I can respect it. This isn't a "show me your proof" b/c none of us know what's happening behind the scenes. We can only surmise and I have my hunches.
Now, whether that turns into a trade is another beast. We don't even know if it's factual that Rob has shopped Kuz or not. It's all fun speculation. No one has gone over the line here in making an opinion.
+1
Pound...BroHug...Chest Tap _________________ "If You're Afraid To Fail...Then You're Probably Going To Fail."
- Kobe
^ I respect that. I gave my reasons for my opinion (i.e. no clear path to starting, affecting future earnings, etc.). You clearly disagree but I can respect it. This isn't a "show me your proof" b/c none of us know what's happening behind the scenes. We can only surmise and I have my hunches.
Now, whether that turns into a trade is another beast. We don't even know if it's factual that Rob has shopped Kuz or not. It's all fun speculation. No one has gone over the line here in making an opinion.
+1
Pound...BroHug...Chest Tap
_________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
1. sign DC for free (waive or trade Troy). DC turns out to have been secretly training all this time and is ready to pick up from his last season which was good.
2. keep Kuz, and he embraces a 6 man role and just kills as a dependable bench scorer who can guard big wings.
3. sign or trade for a big wing defender (or from a buyout) who can be used for 8-10mpg against big wings like KL, etc.
I'm also open to a trade, but we better also replace Kuz's combo forward production too. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
If you fast forward to the 9:00 mark of this video you'll see Danny Green explaining how his clean and organized self has to deal with Kuz's messy nature
“Kuzma is their best trade asset and I’m just going to say, there’s conflicting information out there about him. I’ve talked to three or four different teams who told me ‘Kyle Kuzma is available for trade. He can be had.’ There have been reports elsewhere and other people elsewhere have said that the Lakers have indicated they do not want to trade him.”
Keep 'em guessing, Rob.
It means if certain teams call for Kuzma that have no one the Lakers want, Rob says "Sorry, Kuzma isn't available."
and for teams that have pieces Rob may want, Kuzma "is available for the right price." _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
I don’t see a Kuzma going anywhere, unless offers us something we really want. I’ll take a inconsistent young scoring 10-12 ppg, while not being featured, who happens to make $2 million a year and is cost controlled another two seasons.
Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 4386 Location: Lake Nacimiento
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 5:09 pm Post subject:
MJST wrote:
epak wrote:
Quote:
“Kuzma is their best trade asset and I’m just going to say, there’s conflicting information out there about him. I’ve talked to three or four different teams who told me ‘Kyle Kuzma is available for trade. He can be had.’ There have been reports elsewhere and other people elsewhere have said that the Lakers have indicated they do not want to trade him.”
Keep 'em guessing, Rob.
It means if certain teams call for Kuzma that have no one the Lakers want, Rob says "Sorry, Kuzma isn't available."
and for teams that have pieces Rob may want, Kuzma "is available for the right price."
Yeah, seems pretty obvious haha
I think the Lakers are more then happy to just keep Kuz at this point but they'll absolutely take offers if it has a chance of being an upgrade for this roster.
Joined: 19 Apr 2003 Posts: 22879 Location: La Jolla, San Diego
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:42 pm Post subject:
Outspoken wrote:
KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Kuzma being Kuzma again. Not streaking, so useless. Hopefully he picks it up
He has 3 or 4 assists, that crosscourt pass to Green out of the P/R should count
He has some solid passes.
One behind the back turnover, one straight outta bounds. Seems he's cognizant of being a playmaker. Maybe the noise of trading him for a playmaker like Bogs is making him playing a bit different. Don't try and be what you're not. Just be Kuz. If you're a dependable scorer, that can save your job too.
Kuzma being Kuzma again. Not streaking, so useless. Hopefully he picks it up
He has 3 or 4 assists, that crosscourt pass to Green out of the P/R should count
He has some solid passes.
One behind the back turnover, one straight outta bounds. Seems he's cognizant of being a playmaker. Maybe the noise of trading him for a playmaker like Bogs is making him playing a bit different. Don't try and be what you're not. Just be Kuz. If you're a dependable scorer, that can save your job too.
Exactly. He just got called for a travel for trying to do too much, rather than just shooting. I believe if he could be a consistent shooter, his job could be kept. It's not looking too good to me, but that can change before the deadline.
Joined: 24 Dec 2018 Posts: 347 Location: Palos Verdes
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:05 pm Post subject:
Hot one moment, ice cold the next, (bleep) D, low bbiq (aka stupid plays), completely unreliable.
It's getting ever harder to be supportive of him. He may not be traded, but doesn't mean he's a good player at all. At least not at this point. _________________ Lakers fan since that Magical day June 25, 1979.
Who wants to bet kuzma has 20+ points on Saturday? That’s his game so inconsistent
That's why it's so hard to let go of him. Because you just know he's going to have 20 points in 5 minutes the next game and propel us to a victory. Frustrating.
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 9:58 pm Post subject:
Sell high after his next good game. _________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him
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