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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He just had a problem with the team and is suspended for the season opener, if he’s gonna be our trade target then we need him to be a team player. |
No arguments there. Waiters is the superior talent and fit over Pope, so there's got to be a reason you can get him. It only works in LA if he buys in. It's not even just accepting a bench role either. He would have to agree to play the right way and be a good teammate. Maybe that's not something Dion is prepared to do. But having Pelinka, Paul, LeBron and Davis in place would seem to be a pretty strong structure. Plus, playing for a title has a way of focusing guys.
Klutch basically has two players in non-ideal situations who would be better off switching places. Both teams gain in the process as well. |
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1hu2ren3dui4
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| Posted: Sun Oct 20, 2019 1:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Kcp is probably exhibit a of every klutch pitch. Look at how much we got this bum paid. |
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scout0_0
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| Laker's Fan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He just had a problem with the team and is suspended for the season opener, if he’s gonna be our trade target then we need him to be a team player. |
No arguments there. Waiters is the superior talent and fit over Pope, so there's got to be a reason you can get him. It only works in LA if he buys in. It's not even just accepting a bench role either. He would have to agree to play the right way and be a good teammate. Maybe that's not something Dion is prepared to do. But having Pelinka, Paul, LeBron and Davis in place would seem to be a pretty strong structure. Plus, playing for a title has a way of focusing guys.
Klutch basically has two players in non-ideal situations who would be better off switching places. Both teams gain in the process as well. |
I would make this trade. |
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Laker_Dynasty_01
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| scout0_0 wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He just had a problem with the team and is suspended for the season opener, if he’s gonna be our trade target then we need him to be a team player. |
No arguments there. Waiters is the superior talent and fit over Pope, so there's got to be a reason you can get him. It only works in LA if he buys in. It's not even just accepting a bench role either. He would have to agree to play the right way and be a good teammate. Maybe that's not something Dion is prepared to do. But having Pelinka, Paul, LeBron and Davis in place would seem to be a pretty strong structure. Plus, playing for a title has a way of focusing guys.
Klutch basically has two players in non-ideal situations who would be better off switching places. Both teams gain in the process as well. |
I would make this trade. |
Feels a bit like Isaiah Rider joining Kobe and Shaq, Waiters should talk this over with his potential new teammates first. Waiters' production dropped noticeably in his 33 games after LeBron rejoined Cleveland, after averaging nearly 20ppg his 2nd year.
Doubt it happens, as this would also marginalize Rondo's role off the bench, unless Waiters takes Bradley's starting spot (and that makes us weaker defensively).
Finally, if we think KCP is overpaid, why should anyone else want him after his trade kicker? |
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lakerican
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| Didn't Lebron launched him out of Town?? |
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So... much.. hate.  |
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manlisten
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Dion Waiters? Seriously?
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| manlisten wrote: | | Dion Waiters? Seriously? |
yes what an ridiculous idea to even consider.
Not a fan of KCP at all but Waiters is clearly not the answer. Not even factoring in his drama, he is just a low efficiency chucker who simply nver was that good of a player.
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| So KCP averaged 11.3 ppg while shooting .345 from 3's in preseason. Danny Green averaged 5.0 while shooting .270. For the people that want to get rid of KCP asap...think twice...Green maybe the guy that is in the beginning of really slowing down. Careful. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | So KCP averaged 11.3 ppg while shooting .345 from 3's in preseason. Danny Green averaged 5.0 while shooting .270. For the people that want to get rid of KCP asap...think twice...Green maybe the guy that is in the beginning of really slowing down. Careful. |
Green will be like Fisher. He will only do a few things well, and look old and not so great. But trust me, he is needed. KCP is like Devean George, He plays outside his limits. Some of the older Laker fans will know what I'm alluding to here.
If KCP could play within his limits, he would be a fantastic 2-way rotation player on a contender. Or a good team. Unfortunately he plays as if he's the superstar of the team. I get him doing that to a degree on a young team. Now that he's on a team with HOF'ers and 2 current in peak form/top 5 players in the league, I hope he plays like he did 1 preseason game where he was a reliable 2-way role player. He has all the talent to be a quality 2-way role player. |
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| Laker_Dynasty_01 wrote: | | scout0_0 wrote: | | Laker's Fan wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | He just had a problem with the team and is suspended for the season opener, if he’s gonna be our trade target then we need him to be a team player. |
No arguments there. Waiters is the superior talent and fit over Pope, so there's got to be a reason you can get him. It only works in LA if he buys in. It's not even just accepting a bench role either. He would have to agree to play the right way and be a good teammate. Maybe that's not something Dion is prepared to do. But having Pelinka, Paul, LeBron and Davis in place would seem to be a pretty strong structure. Plus, playing for a title has a way of focusing guys.
Klutch basically has two players in non-ideal situations who would be better off switching places. Both teams gain in the process as well. |
I would make this trade. |
Feels a bit like Isaiah Rider joining Kobe and Shaq, Waiters should talk this over with his potential new teammates first. Waiters' production dropped noticeably in his 33 games after LeBron rejoined Cleveland, after averaging nearly 20ppg his 2nd year.
Doubt it happens, as this would also marginalize Rondo's role off the bench, unless Waiters takes Bradley's starting spot (and that makes us weaker defensively).
Finally, if we think KCP is overpaid, why should anyone else want him after his trade kicker? |
| Quote: | | The next consideration, naturally, is what will become of Waiters, who usually has the common decency to wait until midseason or so to cause a ruckus within the Heat locker room. A check with multiple front-office executives to gauge trade interest in Waiters didn’t bode well for Miami. It would appear he’s not going anywhere. “They’ve been trying to trade him since last Christmas,” one GM told Heavy.com. “No one was trying to take him on then. After this kind of thing, it would be really hard to take him on now. He has had this kind of junk attached to him just about his whole career.” |
Maybe Miami throws in a future 1st  |
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| King Randle wrote: | | So KCP averaged 11.3 ppg while shooting .345 from 3's in preseason. Danny Green averaged 5.0 while shooting .270. For the people that want to get rid of KCP asap...think twice...Green maybe the guy that is in the beginning of really slowing down. Careful. |
Green strikes me as a "turn it on when it counts" players |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | So KCP averaged 11.3 ppg while shooting .345 from 3's in preseason. Danny Green averaged 5.0 while shooting .270. For the people that want to get rid of KCP asap...think twice...Green maybe the guy that is in the beginning of really slowing down. Careful. |
Green strikes me as a "turn it on when it counts" players |
Hopefully Pope will do well this year. The tools are there, but he hasn’t put it together yet. He’s the type of player who should benefit from having more structure. Tough to draw conclusions from preseason. |
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| Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | So KCP averaged 11.3 ppg while shooting .345 from 3's in preseason. Danny Green averaged 5.0 while shooting .270. For the people that want to get rid of KCP asap...think twice...Green maybe the guy that is in the beginning of really slowing down. Careful. |
Green strikes me as a "turn it on when it counts" players |
Meanwhile, KCP can only impersonate an average NBA player in the most low leverage of situations, so we shouldn't get too "excited" about how preseason stats. Those are the numbers we can expect from him when the Lakers are up/down by 30 or have been eliminated from playoff contention. |
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Green knows how to fill his lanes, go to the corner 3, draw gravity, give AD/LBJ space.
He doesn't put up massive numbers but he just knows where to be and how to play.
KCP? Chucker until the end.
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Why does the coach keep putting 6'5" nobody KCP on 6'7" Finals' MVP? Does he not see Kawhi would score as if no one is guarding him?
This guy is worthless and they keep playing him.
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He needs to go ASAP
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Good lord he is killing us.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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| 26 minutes, 5 fouls, zero points. What a joke. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Terrible.
This guy has shown zero improvement over the last three years.
Why do they continue to sign him.
What a joke. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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The worst player I've ever seen on a Lakers uniform.
At least the worst to play that many minutes. |
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RI Laker
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| How the fuock is this guy on the floor for 27 minutes. |
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easily becoming the worst Laker ever
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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| The price of doing biz with Klutch |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2019 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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8m wasted on this guy.
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