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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | Melo and Westbrick are gonna be like Malone and Payton or Nash and Jamison. Pass!
Just because Lebron could still perform at an MVP level doesn't mean anyone his age could do the same. |
Another NBA Finals appearance is bad now...? |
You saw people laughing at Jae Crowder for losing 2 straight finals? people think it’s a walk in the park going to the Finals. |
which park IG? |
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Baron Von Humongous
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| LGFan wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Lakers linked to rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers:
NBA fanbases who would tear their front offices a new (bleep) if they traded for said rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers: "The Lakers don't have the assets to acquire Kemba Walker." |
Kemba Walker and a mid-1st round pick was worth Al Horford's rotting carcass and a G-League prospect, but that Kyle Kuzma?! *pyew* Stinky!
"Such unbelievable hubris on the part of Lakers fans!" |
nba: kuzma/kcp/tht/22 sounds about right for kemba "in grave" walker  |
"The Lakers are lucky to land former All-Star Kemba Walker for so little"
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LGFan
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Lakers linked to rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers:
NBA fanbases who would tear their front offices a new (bleep) if they traded for said rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers: "The Lakers don't have the assets to acquire Kemba Walker." |
Kemba Walker and a mid-1st round pick was worth Al Horford's rotting carcass and a G-League prospect, but that Kyle Kuzma?! *pyew* Stinky!
"Such unbelievable hubris on the part of Lakers fans!" |
nba: kuzma/kcp/tht/22 sounds about right for kemba "in grave" walker |
"The Lakers are lucky to land former All-Star Kemba Walker for so little" |
OT; we need to grab some scotch some day... |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | | 2019 wrote: |
How are you going in the offer? Russ or CP3?
I personally don't think we'll look at THT 5 years from now and say damn, "what a stud we drafted how the hell did we give him up?" but alas, we have people on this board still talking about Ingram.
I also think it's foolish to worry too far into the future when you're not he doorstep of a championship and we're only a year removed from the last one. Not to mention that the Nets are going to be a juggernaut next season.
As Shaq once said, any dummy knows the future is now. |
Our title window is right the f now...I’m totally with you on that. It makes no sense to wait and/or posture like we’re in a position of power. We’re not. If Schro agrees on a S&t, I pull real quick before he walks for nothing. Same with a Trezz opt in.
I don’t want to just throw in THT for the heck of it, but that can’t be the hold up.
You exploit Bron/AD right the f now....and that doesn’t mean you turn Bron into the only perimeter oriented playmaker on the squad. Russ changes all of that and then some. Dude dimes, boards and brings that dog that we’ve been missing since ‘Do left.
Are there better fits? Of course. Could we bring in a better perimeter shooter...no doubt. But will Russ super charge Bron for the playoffs? Well did the Bucks just win the chip, shooting for (bleep) from the perimeter & the line?
All the above applies towards Cp3 as well, except that boy can shoot.
Turn Schro/Kuz/THT into a perimeter stud and we’re officially back imho. The Nets don’t stand a chance against that trio. |
Yup. I agree with you here again.. per usual. Anyone pretending like those two are guys are a bad option at that price are kidding themselves.
- DS has proved he's not the guy he wants/pretends to be and most feel like they want nothing to do with him so no loss there.
- Kuzma, our last 'homegrown' product, has been linked to trades since his first day here most on this forum have seen all they need to see in that he's nothing more than gunner on a bad team or a meh role player on a championship one. No huge loss there.
- Then you have THT who we always tend to view through rose colored lenses. Would be nice to keep him as I think he could help next year but he's far from some bluechip prospect that can generate a superstar.. obviously.
So all this discussion about 'giving up way too much' - I just don't see it. Hell, take #22 if we can get CP3 or Westbrook. I prefer CP given the choice but both make us far far farrr better. Would be especially sweet if we could keep KCP. Then bring back Caruso, Wes, Ben and Kief. Sign Melo, Dwight or Damion Jones and a cheap shooter like Ellington to minimums. Use the mMLE on a guy who can make a difference and likely wants a title badly. Rudy Gay comes to mind. PJ Tucker would be ideal and he seems likes the guy who would jump at the opposite to come to LA and compete while closing games. You then have Trez who, if he could play ball, could also bring in some more depth.
Rob has a busy, and crucial, summer.
Edit: Give me Ish Smith too. I want Ish.
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| LGFan wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Lakers linked to rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers:
NBA fanbases who would tear their front offices a new (bleep) if they traded for said rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers: "The Lakers don't have the assets to acquire Kemba Walker." |
Kemba Walker and a mid-1st round pick was worth Al Horford's rotting carcass and a G-League prospect, but that Kyle Kuzma?! *pyew* Stinky!
"Such unbelievable hubris on the part of Lakers fans!" |
nba: kuzma/kcp/tht/22 sounds about right for kemba "in grave" walker |
"The Lakers are lucky to land former All-Star Kemba Walker for so little" |
OT; we need to grab some scotch some day... |
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Please revised if wrong.
Let say we go after RW, sign and trade DS, Montrez and a pick possible without giving up THT, Kuz?
Reason being is we can sign THT and Caruso and still sign a mid level without triggering the hard cap. Then we can sign as many vet min players we want.
LBJ, AD, RS, KCP, Kuz
THT, Caruso, Mark, Mid lvl, and rest vet min.
Is this possible under the cap? |
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I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
And we are gonna those guys for WB the guy who averaged a marvelous 30/10/10 in the season, I love THT and would hate to see him go but we gotta capitalize on LeBron’s window, we know that these guys will be stars on another team but our goal right now are championships. |
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
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THT should not be in any Westbrook trade. Our first either
Schroder
Kuzma
McKinnie
Should be the most we are willing to offer. Westbrook despite his bar none competitive spirit, is seriously over paid, will be 33 at the start of next year, and most important, is the worse 3 point shooter in NBA history (out of players with 2500 attempts)
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
I remember people on LG going bonkers because we gave up on Derek Caracter. |
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LGFan
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| Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
I love THTs game but by your logic he would have the greatest statistical season in NBA history… |
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I have a strong feeling Harrell is gonna opt in, and we will use him as apart of a S&T deal to land either CP3 or Westbrook.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | LGFan wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | Baron Von Humongous wrote: | Lakers linked to rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers:
NBA fanbases who would tear their front offices a new (bleep) if they traded for said rapidly physically deteriorating, highly overpaid guards on the downside of their careers: "The Lakers don't have the assets to acquire Kemba Walker." |
Kemba Walker and a mid-1st round pick was worth Al Horford's rotting carcass and a G-League prospect, but that Kyle Kuzma?! *pyew* Stinky!
"Such unbelievable hubris on the part of Lakers fans!" |
nba: kuzma/kcp/tht/22 sounds about right for kemba "in grave" walker |
"The Lakers are lucky to land former All-Star Kemba Walker for so little" |
"Lebron can't win without two superstar teammates" |
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| AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
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| LGFan wrote: | | Lakerz113 wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Oh god. I’m a fan of THT, but those numbers are just plain silly. |
He is only 20, if anything he is underrating Tht |
Nobody in the history of the game has averaged those numbers. 🤣 |
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True or false: LeBron never played with MJ caliber player.
My answer: false, cause he's is playing with tht last 2 years |
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| activeverb wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
I remember people on LG going bonkers because we gave up on Derek Caracter. |
Caracter NBA stats: Link
THT NBA stats: Link
You naysaying (bleep) are (bleep) lame.
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| LGFan wrote: | True or false: LeBron never played with MJ caliber player.
My answer: false, cause he's is playing with tht last 2 years |
AD is up there as a pip level imo.
I'd take Pip over Wade and Kyrie though.
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
I agree.
It's not like we're fawning over a zubac level player
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| LGFan wrote: | True or false: LeBron never played with MJ caliber player.
My answer: false, cause he's is playing with tht last 2 years |
I agree -- Kuzma is a Mike James-caliber player. |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
I remember people on LG going bonkers because we gave up on Derek Caracter. |
Caracter NBA stats: Link
THT NBA stats: Link
You naysaying (bleep) are (bleep) lame. |
I'm not naysaying about THT. I am just saying that fans often go wild over young players who don't turn into anything special.
I have no prediction for what THT will become. I'll see what he becomes when he becomes it. |
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The THT situation is very interesting. Can't wait to see how this plays out.
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| Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Baron Von Humongous wrote: | | AD23 wrote: | I’m sick of the Laker front office trading away our young studs.
Kuz will be a 25-30ppg scorer any season now. THT is the next Scottie Pippen. I see him averaging 20/8/8 in the next yr and peaking at 30-15-15.
Trust the process. Seriously if we kept the young core and LeBron we would have repeated. You guys need to trust the young studs!! |
Ingram, Russell, and Randle have all made All-Star teams.
THT is their peer. He is much more talented than Kuzma.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? |
Jamal Maglore was also an all star. |
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