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https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-attorneys-spar-over-ex-160455542.html
3:15 p.m.
A defense attorney for a former Dallas police officer accused of fatally shooting a man who she wrongly believed was in her own apartment says the identical look of the apartment complex from floor to floor often led to confusion among tenants.
Amber Guyger's attorney, Robert Rogers, during opening statements of her murder trial Monday said dozens of people living at the complex reported regularly parking on the wrong floor or attempting to enter the wrong apartment.
Rogers says the floors of the parking garage were not clearly marked so it was understandable when Guyger, tired from a long shift, in September 2018 pushed open a door and believed an intruder was inside.
Authorities say Guyger shot Botham Jean as the 26-year-old Jean was inside his own apartment.
Guyger later was fired from the Dallas police force.
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1:40 p.m.
A prosecutor has told jurors that former Dallas police officer Amber Guyger was careless and distracted when she entered her neighbor's apartment and fatally shot him.
Guyger's trial began Monday for the September 2018 fatal shooting of Botham Jean, who went by the nickname "Bo." The court didn't release demographic details about the jurors, the vast majority of whom appeared to be women and people of color.
Dallas County assistant district attorney Jason Hermus called Jean "a wonderful, decent, kind man" and said that he was eating a bowl of vanilla ice cream when Guyger entered his apartment.
Hermus told jurors that Guyger had worked a long day but that it was primarily office work. He suggested that Guyger became upset and distracted by a phone call with a colleague with whom she had been romantically involved. He said there is no evidence that Jean ever posed a threat to Guyger.
Guyger's attorney will present an opening statement later Monday.
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11:04 a.m.
Prosecutors and defense attorneys in the trial of a former Dallas police officer who shot and killed her neighbor spent Monday morning arguing over whether material from her cell phone could be admitted as evidence.
A prosecutor said Amber Guyger's cellphone messages on the day that she shot and killed Botham Jean included sexually explicit exchanges with her partner from the Dallas Police Department. The prosecutor said Guyger's partner would testify in the trial.
Prosecutors argue that the messages were relevant to showing Guyger's mental state before and after the shooting, while the defense argued that the material was not relevant and could be prejudicial.
The judge is expected to rule on the issue before opening arguments begin later Monday.
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12:05 a.m.
Opening statements are set to begin in the murder trial of a white police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man in his Dallas apartment
Amber Guyger is expected in a Dallas court Monday morning, where she will stand trial for the killing of 26-year-old Botham Jean last year.
The case has attracted intense national scrutiny for its strange circumstances and as one in a chain of shootings of black men by white police officers. Guyger was fired after Jean's death.
Lawyers for Guyger are likely to argue she fired in self-defense based on the mistaken belief that she was in her own apartment and Jean was a burglar.
A jury will decide whether 31-year-old Guyger committed murder, a lesser offense such as manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide, or no crime at all. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | I think that the prosecution is going to suggest what I've been saying from page 1 of this thread: That it wasn't an accident at all that she was in Jean's apartment that night. |
Refresh our recollection with this theory again?
(It's been a while, and I totally forgot about this trial).
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IIRC she previously approached James about noise from his apartment annoying her.
Having been a jury foreman in the past, if the judge's instructions are followed it's a toss up. He will probably instruct to judge the case on evidence not one's personal beliefs.
Attorney's will be of utmost importance. If the prosecution is of Marcia Clark and Christopher Darden ilk it could be interesting. I have a feeling the race card will be played. Also jury selection will play a important part.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | I think that the prosecution is going to suggest what I've been saying from page 1 of this thread: That it wasn't an accident at all that she was in Jean's apartment that night. |
Refresh our recollection with this theory again?
(It's been a while, and I totally forgot about this trial). |
That there was relationship of some sort between the two of them. Maybe the prosecution isn't going that way, and maybe I'm just cynical. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | I think that the prosecution is going to suggest what I've been saying from page 1 of this thread: That it wasn't an accident at all that she was in Jean's apartment that night. |
Refresh our recollection with this theory again?
(It's been a while, and I totally forgot about this trial). |
That there was relationship of some sort between the two of them. Maybe the prosecution isn't going that way, and maybe I'm just cynical. |
Interesting that it seems the prosecution is going with the distracted lover text angle. I would think that if you walked into someone else's apartment, and I'm fairly certain Jean's apartment did not smell anything like her apartment, that she would have realized it was not her room.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | I think that the prosecution is going to suggest what I've been saying from page 1 of this thread: That it wasn't an accident at all that she was in Jean's apartment that night. |
Refresh our recollection with this theory again?
(It's been a while, and I totally forgot about this trial). |
That there was relationship of some sort between the two of them. Maybe the prosecution isn't going that way, and maybe I'm just cynical. |
Interesting that it seems the prosecution is going with the distracted lover text angle. I would think that if you walked into someone else's apartment, and I'm fairly certain Jean's apartment did not smell anything like her apartment, that she would have realized it was not her room. |
Prosecution in on the fix?
I don't like this angle.. They dolled her up for cameras and now say that it was a careless bimbo mistake.. not Murder
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=amber+guyger+previous+social+media+posts
‘Short-tempered’ Amber Guyger shared posts likening Colin Kaepernick to cancer and memes saying people were ‘ungrateful she didn’t kill them’
https://www.stlucianewsonline.com/short-tempered-amber-guyger-shared-posts-likening-colin-kaepernick-to-cancer-and-memes-saying-people-were-ungrateful-she-didnt-kill-them/
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yeah the prosecution has framed up a very weak foundation.
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| Always beware of trial coverage filtered through the media. It is better to focus on the specific facts than to speculate about trial strategy. The media often does a terrible job of conveying the essence of opening arguments and the like. I know this from firsthand experience. |
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This case still baffles me. I saw the body cam footage this morning on the news....how did the responding officers or EMT's know his name when they arrived? They are saying his name trying to get him to respond. |
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They should show us what the inside of her apartment looked like
And this covers the noise complaint
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2018/09/19/why-apartment-managers-really-visited-botham-jean-s-home-before-he-was-killed-by-amber-guyger/
| Quote: | Like law enforcement, Merritt has previously said there was a noise complaint about Jean's apartment the day he was shot. But Merritt said Wednesday that he learned that was not true.
Merritt said there hadn't been a noise complaint against Jean in the two months Guyger had lived in the building. |
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| Quote: | | But state District Judge Tammy Kemp asked to replay the footage Wednesday, sending the jury out of the room. The defense wanted to question a Texas Ranger about the location of Jean’s shoes on the floor and ask where he was when he was shot. |
Judge not liking something he sees in the police reports regarding where he was when first shot? Did he not read the police reports?
This (bleep) is dehumanizing.. whoever the judge was should have done this in private council unless they want the jury to really see/focus that a man died at the hands of this crazy woman? |
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Someone send the Costco verdict to this chicks lawyers
Use "The Salvador Sanchez" defense
That (bleep) should get anyone off the hook.
Anyone incarcerated should see if it could help them get early parole too |
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She was afraid for her life?
What about Botham Jean, in his own house, seeing a person come in yelling at him and then firing a gun at him?
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Amber Guyger trial: Botham Jean was bent over or lying on back when shot, medical examiner testifies |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | Quote: | All Things CBS47
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He was black so he was extra scary even if sitting down and asking the armed intruder why they are shooting him
What a crazy state and state of affairs
I think the sexting partner needs to be called in as a character witness.. Get him to take an oath and talk about anything she may have ever said about her neighbor |
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Today’s summary.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | She was afraid for her life?
What about Botham Jean, in his own house, seeing a person come in yelling at him and then firing a gun at him? |
While eating a bowl of ice cream.
This jury needs to do the right thing, at the very least this has to be a manslaughter conviction.
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| vanexelent wrote: | https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/09/30/jury-consider-castle-doctrine-amber-guyger-murder-trial/
| Quote: | | Judge Rules Jury Can Consider Castle Doctrine In Amber Guyger Murder Trial |
How the hell can they even apply this to this case? |
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| vanexelent wrote: | https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/09/30/jury-consider-castle-doctrine-amber-guyger-murder-trial/
| Quote: | | Judge Rules Jury Can Consider Castle Doctrine In Amber Guyger Murder Trial |
How the hell can they even apply this to this case? |
I guess the argument would be that she was acting under a mistake of fact and believed it was her “castle.” I don’t think it will make a difference. |
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | vanexelent wrote: | https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/09/30/jury-consider-castle-doctrine-amber-guyger-murder-trial/
| Quote: | | Judge Rules Jury Can Consider Castle Doctrine In Amber Guyger Murder Trial |
How the hell can they even apply this to this case? |
I guess the argument would be that she was acting under a mistake of fact and believed it was her “castle.” I don’t think it will make a difference. |
AH what’s your prediction?
I think they will downgrade to manslaughter.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | AH what’s your prediction?
I think they will downgrade to manslaughter. |
Same. I have a hard time imagining an acquittal, but I guess it’s possible. |
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