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giordan0
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Just look at Houston moving forward, the new owner is penny pincher.
The Buss family ain't perfect but they are invested into this team. |
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socalsp3
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| giordan0 wrote: | Just look at Houston moving forward, the new owner is penny pincher.
The Buss family ain't perfect but they are invested into this team. |
they have to be in the houston market. no excuse in LA with that fat TW contract. |
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Jeanie said she learned from her dad to hire the best people and stay out of their way. Magic already showed a lack of commitment and patience when he quit as coach after a short period of time. Leopards don't change spots and he didn't change either. She let her emotions influence her decision to give him the keys to the car. Magic was like Poindexter (Felix the cat character), who was in a lab pouring rocket fuel formula back and forth between viles, until the whole lab blew up. He clearly mishandled and wasted Julius as an asset. He traded Zubac for an underperforming guy because the guy had a good game against the Lakers. Magic was seemingly ready to mortgage the future for an old guy, leaving fans to identify with who as their favorite player?
Now the car is wrecked, and Magic gave Jeanie the keys back. Keep emotions out of it and hire Jerry West for whatever he agrees to do to fix this mess. Quit repeating "we're the Lakers." Swallow your pride and make the call. |
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She needs to be given the same 4 year window standard jim buss got. If we're not in the conference finals in 4 years, then it's time for her to be forced out. And it's been 2 years now. 2 years left.
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lakersboy
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:29 am Post subject: |
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| Chronicle wrote: | | She needs to be given the same 4 year window standard jim buss got. If we're not in the conference finals in 4 years, then it's time for her to be forced out. And it's been 2 years now. 2 years left. |
Unfortunately, time limits lead to foolish decisions like Mozdeng. Magic's bad decisions were centered around Lebron's closing window. Jeanie would just continue the trend if her time was short. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:41 am Post subject: |
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| lakersboy wrote: | | Chronicle wrote: | | She needs to be given the same 4 year window standard jim buss got. If we're not in the conference finals in 4 years, then it's time for her to be forced out. And it's been 2 years now. 2 years left. |
Unfortunately, time limits lead to foolish decisions like Mozdeng. Magic's bad decisions were centered around Lebron's closing window. Jeanie would just continue the trend if her time was short. |
If it leads to a more qualified person taking over then it's what has to happen
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:58 am Post subject: Magic not the problem....Jeanie is!! |
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I am shocked most here at LG are so happy Magic is gone when it is reported the reason was because he was frustrated that he couldn't fire Luke (and now Pelinka).
Skip and Shannon were talking this morning and said Magic wanted to fire Luke earlier in the season and Jeanie wouldn't allow it. Weren't we all here wanting that to happen?
Now Magic is gone and it looks like Luke is staying (along with Pelinka). As Skip & Shannon both said....no A List level President option will even think of coming here now because Jeanie won't let them run the team. She is too loyal to those here within the Lakers Family (Luke) or ties to one (Pelinka's ties to Kobe). An A List President would want and demand full control. I don't know if any possible candidates would believe she would give them that....if she wouldn't do it for her "brother" Magic.
Keeping Luke is crazy and Pelinka even crazier....everyone in the NBA hates him (except Kobe)!!
Let's also not forget that she wasted years of ours by giving Kobe his mega money extension before we even knew if he could play after his Achilles tear. She makes decisions with her heart not with her brain. If she can't keep her heart out of it she needs to hire someone she will release control to....to make the best decisions for the Lakers.
The Lakers will not succeed if she is allowed to make final decisions on what needs to be done/what is best for the team (not what's best for her Laker Family members)!! |
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She just wants to bring in Phil Jackson?  |
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How about both?
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If he keeps Pelinka on - of Zubac, Randle, Mitchell Robinson debacle fame -she deserves to be fired by the other board members
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | How about both? |
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | | How about both? |
Seriously. Why are people so focused on finding just one person to blame? Jeanie may ultimately the cause of the organizational problems we have, but Magic's combination of ineptitude and big talk caused their own problems. |
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| There's a report from Woj that Luke could be the frontrunner for the Kings job now that it's open. If I'm Luke, I ask Jeanie to let me go if that's the case just to get out of this environment. |
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Jeanne is smarter and more talented than most people here think. She plays the part of damsel in distress but she's more like a dragon.
I think as this story unfolds people will realize that Magic was no angel, and that she knew that he was going to quit. In other words he just didn't quit, she just kinda opened the door for him. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:26 am Post subject: Re: Magic not the problem....Jeanie is!! |
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| kobe_luver wrote: | I am shocked most here at LG are so happy Magic is gone when it is reported the reason was because he was frustrated that he couldn't fire Luke (and now Pelinka).
Skip and Shannon were talking this morning and said Magic wanted to fire Luke earlier in the season and Jeanie wouldn't allow it. Weren't we all here wanting that to happen?
Now Magic is gone and it looks like Luke is staying (along with Pelinka). As Skip & Shannon both said....no A List level President option will even think of coming here now because Jeanie won't let them run the team. She is too loyal to those here within the Lakers Family (Luke) or ties to one (Pelinka's ties to Kobe). An A List President would want and demand full control. I don't know if any possible candidates would believe she would give them that....if she wouldn't do it for her "brother" Magic.
Keeping Luke is crazy and Pelinka even crazier....everyone in the NBA hates him (except Kobe)!!
Let's also not forget that she wasted years of ours by giving Kobe his mega money extension before we even knew if he could play after his Achilles tear. She makes decisions with her heart not with her brain. If she can't keep her heart out of it she needs to hire someone she will release control to....to make the best decisions for the Lakers.
The Lakers will not succeed if she is allowed to make final decisions on what needs to be done/what is best for the team (not what's best for her Laker Family members)!! |
Jeannie owns the team, deal with it. 
And Lebron's people wanted to fire Luke for Ty Lue. Thank god Jeannie didn't do that. Magic didn't ant to do the job, and was more concerned about other young players than our own.
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:27 am Post subject: |
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| There's a lot of covert sexism on this board regarding Jeanie. It's really something to behold. |
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Both. That said, the common denominator in all the drama since dr Buss passed is Jeannie. She needs to stay away from the basketball side of things and stick to business. Her motives have been well documented and her pettiness isn't helping the franchise. She's stuck in her circle, trying to give "her people" jobs and opportunities that would be better served with more qualified candidates.
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| Username wrote: | | There's a lot of covert sexism on this board regarding Jeanie. It's really something to behold. |
How is it sexist to point out that she's bad at her job? Terribly-run organizations always start at the top. A competent owner wouldn't have hired a POBO with no previous scouting or GM experience and then chose the GM that works under him.
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kobe_luver
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I wish Luke would leave but I doubt he would leave us to go to the Kings.
Jeanie is the main problem because major decisions are up to her and if she does keep Luke and Pelinka then we are worse off than we were with Magic here and him firing them both. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:33 am Post subject: |
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| Threatt_Level wrote: | | Username wrote: | | There's a lot of covert sexism on this board regarding Jeanie. It's really something to behold. |
How is it sexist to point out that she's bad at her job? Terribly-run organizations always start at the top. A competent owner wouldn't have hired a POBO with no previous scouting or GM experience and then chose the GM that works under him. |
If you think she's bad at her job, that's fine. But all these comments about her being too emotional, claiming she's sleeping with Luke, making decisions based on relationships, turning the front office into a girls club with Linda, etc. are just asinine and absolutely carry hints of subtle sexism.
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| oldschool32 wrote: | | Both. That said, the common denominator in all the drama since dr Buss passed is Jeannie. She needs to stay away from the basketball side of things and stick to business. Her motives have been well documented and her pettiness isn't helping the franchise. She's stuck in her circle, trying to give "her people" jobs and opportunities that would be better served with more qualified candidates. |
Seriously. How do people not get this? Even when Jim was in charge, Jeanie was sniping at him in the press. What CEO goes on record and trashes their COO in the press? It's totally unprofessional on her part.
And it's clear from listening to her speak that she's not a great basketball mind. So, it's even more egregious that, now that Jim is gone, she feels way more empowered to meddle in that side. |
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| another one of these threads? There are many other threads to express an opinion on this topic. Creating a separate thread will not convince people to believe what you want them to believe. |
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If you think she's bad at her job, that's fine. But all these comments about her being too emotional, making decisions based on relationships, turning the front office into a girls club with Linda, etc. just smell of subtle sexism to me. |
Well, she's hiring people with no experience to high-level jobs based on her personal relationships with them. She's consulting Linda Rambis, who has no basketball operations experience, to help her make decisions relating to the basketball operations side. There's nothing sexist about it. She's not performing at her job. It's sexist to act like she shouldn't be criticized for these things. They deserve criticism whether it's a man or a woman. Dolan has been criticized for stuff like this for years. |
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| Username wrote: | | Threatt_Level wrote: | | Username wrote: | | There's a lot of covert sexism on this board regarding Jeanie. It's really something to behold. |
How is it sexist to point out that she's bad at her job? Terribly-run organizations always start at the top. A competent owner wouldn't have hired a POBO with no previous scouting or GM experience and then chose the GM that works under him. |
If you think she's bad at her job, that's fine. But all these comments about her being too emotional, claiming she's sleeping with Luke, making decisions based on relationships, turning the front office into a girls club with Linda, etc. are just asinine and absolutely carry hints of subtle sexism. |
Jeanie herself has said that she is too emotional and can't make hard decisions because she gets too attached to players... |
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| Threatt_Level wrote: | | Username wrote: |
If you think she's bad at her job, that's fine. But all these comments about her being too emotional, making decisions based on relationships, turning the front office into a girls club with Linda, etc. just smell of subtle sexism to me. |
Well, she's hiring people with no experience to high-level jobs based on her personal relationships with them. She's consulting Linda Rambis, who has no basketball operations experience, to help her make decisions relating to the basketball operations side. There's nothing sexist about it. She's not performing at her job. It's sexist to act like she shouldn't be criticized for these things. They deserve criticism whether it's a man or a woman. Dolan has been criticized for stuff like this for years. |
I would argue not holding her to the same standards of criticism for being the NBA's worst team record-wise in the past 6 years is the definition of being sexist.
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