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Staccatos
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| Mike@LG wrote: | | I want Randle and Danny Green if LAL can't get a star. |
Danny Green is a good option since the Lakers need more floor-stretching options.
I would've preferred to have kept Randle last year, but that ship has mostly sailed. Randle became redundant with Lebron as a nice to have piece but not as a complimentary piece.
Lebron surrounded by 3 & D pieces is probably still the best team and will take you to the finals. |
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Fortysixn2
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | Sentient Meat wrote: | There were only 5 players who had averaged more points and rebounds than Julius
Giannis
Embiid
AD
Towns
Westbrook
Let's stop acting like he doesn't have some value. |
points isnt the the Lakers problem — hasn’t been for years |
Correct. Randle and DLO are amongst the worst defenders at their positions in the league. That’s the reason we lost so much when they were here..had nothing to do with shooting or scoring.
Guys like KL, Jimmy Butler and Vucevic fit much better with what we are trying to do and our weaknesses as a team. If we replaced Kuzma with Randle last season, we wouldn’t have won any more games based on advanced stats and Kuzma regressed last season and is a lot cheaper. |
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Mike@LG
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| Staccatos wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | I want Randle and Danny Green if LAL can't get a star. |
Danny Green is a good option since the Lakers need more floor-stretching options.
I would've preferred to have kept Randle last year, but that ship has mostly sailed. Randle became redundant with Lebron as a nice to have piece but not as a complimentary piece.
Lebron surrounded by 3 & D pieces is probably still the best team and will take you to the finals. |
I think LeBron likes defending wings while Randle will actually defend bigs.
Even Randle shoots 34% behind the arc.
Both of them in the front court makes for a hell of a switchable defense while still getting rebounds.
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YSong
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The title is ironic ..
Moving on from AD
Bring back JR who we moved on from
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| YSong wrote: | The title is ironic ..
Moving on from AD
Bring back JR who we moved on from
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I was going to say something smart but then I realized I don’t have $2k to back it up. |
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LandsbergerRules
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| 22 wrote: | | Mike@LG wrote: | | I want Randle and Danny Green if LAL can't get a star. |
and draft Garland if none of the consensus top 3 are available |
Agreed.
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YSong
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:00 am Post subject: |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | YSong wrote: | The title is ironic ..
Moving on from AD
Bring back JR who we moved on from
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I was going to say something smart but then I realized I don’t have $2k to back it up. |
Haha it’s all good feel free. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| YSong wrote: | | LongBeachPoly wrote: | | YSong wrote: | The title is ironic ..
Moving on from AD
Bring back JR who we moved on from
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I was going to say something smart but then I realized I don’t have $2k to back it up. |
Haha it’s all good feel free. |
Haha
Good sense of humor man
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venturalakersfan
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| defense wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | LakerLanny wrote: | This Gayle Benson lady sounds as dim witted as our owner.
Shocking actually. |
Not even close, she is smart enough to let experienced executives run the organization instead of surrounding herself with friends. Those executives have made the Saints a perennial Super Bowl contender. |
DrewBrees has made the Saints a perennial Superbowl contender
You don't know who she gets advice from. |
Yes, I do. Been a fan for 35 years. They have built a solid executive staff, not a bunch of BFFs.
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LAL1947
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| venturalakersfan wrote: |
Yes, I do. Been a fan for 35 years. They have built a solid executive staff, not a bunch of BFFs. |
The Pels built a solid executive staff? C'mon now. Prior to hiring Griffin (not sure what changes he has made since being hired), their FO was allegedly made up mainly of football execs... they've had a generational talent like AD for 7 years, yet couldn't build a team around him that got them sniffing the conference finals... have thrown away many picks/assets... taken on bad contracts (Solomon Hill, E'twaun Moore). They'd have been dead in the water if they hadn't lucked into the #1 pick and also lost AD for a meagre return. Why are you not holding them accountable for their results in the same way you do our FO?
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J.C. Smith
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| LandsbergerRules wrote: | | Am I trippin or was Randle starting to improve defensively under Luke before regressing with the Pels? |
He was definitely better defensively in his last season in L.A., but I think a lot of that is how they used him. His is good at switching onto smaller guys and defending them on the perimeter. He's not very good at help defense and rotations. The Lakers switched everything which benefited him. |
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BigBallerBrand
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| Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Might as well sign DLO too. Boy, might as well get PG in 3 years, same agent
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| LAL1947 wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: |
Yes, I do. Been a fan for 35 years. They have built a solid executive staff, not a bunch of BFFs. |
C'mon now... the Pels built a solid executive staff? Prior to hiring Griffin, they were allegedly mainly football execs... and have had a generational talent like AD for 7 years, yet couldn't build a team around him that got them sniffing the conference finals... have thrown away many picks/assets... and taken on bad contracts (Solomon Hill, E'twaun Moore). They'd have been dead in the water if they hadn't lucked into the #1 pick and also lost AD for a meagre return. Why are you not holding them accountable for their results in the same way you do our FO? |
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unleasHell
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If the Pelicans make a deal with the Lakers and keep Randle, I think they would have a fun line-up, with 4 ex-Lakers:
PG: Ball
SG: Holiday
SF: Ingram
PF: Zion
C: Randle
And Gentry could get a lot out of them, assuming everyone stays healthy, 4 of their 5 starters could average 20ppg, with Ball upping his assists to over 10 per game!
I almost hate to say it, but not only would I watch them, I'd be rooting for them against everyone EXCEPT the Lakers!
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nomoreshaq
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:06 pm Post subject: Kyrie + AD for EVERYONE - Do you do it? |
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| Ball, Ingram, Wagner, Kuzma, Hart, Bonga, #4 pick and future picks and swaps and renounce KCP, Rondo, Muscala, Lance, Bullock, Mcgee, Chandler for Kyrie, AD and Lebron. We have exceptions and minimum salaries to fill up 9+ positions. |
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Baron Von Humongous
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I voted "other"
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Sentient Meat
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Do we know of an extinction event asteroid that's scheduled to strike our planet in 2021?
If yes, why not.
If not, no way. |
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 8:12 pm Post subject: |
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| As long as we can keep zo kuz and bi. Sure |
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Nnamdi21
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voted no way...giving up Ball/Ingram/Kuz/4th pick and future picks for AD is awful. He's leaving them next year. He's a 1 year rental for them at best. And It will gut our roster.
Having Irving and Lebron as defenders will already put us in a hole...
I'd only do Ball or Ingram + 4th pick for AD. Fill out the roster with other free agents on smaller non-max contracts. |
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Depending on what we knew through backdoor channels... I guess I'd consider. Ie if we knew Kyrie was coming and that guys like Noel, Morris, Green, Ellington, etc were 100% going to come on the cheap, then maybe I'd consider. But if it's without guarantee that we get someone else plus cheap depth, then no thanks.
FWIW, Bonga and Wagner mean nothing to me as assets |
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fubby1
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Don’t understand why you would include Kyrie in your poll. We could sign him as a free agent, or even another free agent. No trade needed. There are other pretty good free agents as well. So we are really just needing to choose who we send to N.O. for A.D.
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The Lebrons
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| In a vacuum, maybe. But Kyrie would be a FA, so that means we're trading all our assets for AD in this hypothetical, which I would not do. |
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justsomelakerfan
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 9:58 pm Post subject: |
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Wait. For everyone? Including LeBron?
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| Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2019 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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what kind of ridiculous narrative is this? that is hardly what it would take to get AD
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