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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:49 pm    Post subject:

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The problem with dept plan is there is no good ball handler out there and we need a 2nd ball handler beacuse Davis is a big and Lebron's mins should be limited and he should sit some games so we can have prime Lebron at playoffs.

When we look at other max worthy PGs; Kemba's age not a good fit long term plus due to his size he can't defend. Kyrie's age not problem but hes injury prone. With DLO we can p&r teams to death. Lebron and DLO going at it with AD out there? woof.


DLO won't get the touches with LBJ, and AD, it will affect his game as he's a volume shooter that requires touches. I think the Nets is his best bet for success. If the Nets get Kyrie, DLO will not be able to go back. At least not at the price he's asking. I see him with the Timberwolves in that case.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:50 pm    Post subject:

Not really, the pnr game with DLO +AD would be sick.

DLO will also be able to play on the block and post up again, which he never did in Brooklyn.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:52 pm    Post subject:

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Not really, the pnr game with DLO +AD would be sick.

DLO will also be able to play on the block and post up again, which he never did in Brooklyn.
He would be a great fit to our squad.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:53 pm    Post subject:

I'd only be cool with signing DLo if he accepted 20 mil or less a year (which he won't).
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:54 pm    Post subject:

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Not really, the pnr game with DLO +AD would be sick.

DLO will also be able to play on the block and post up again, which he never did in Brooklyn.
He would be a great fit to our squad.


Yeap.

However, I agree with others that filling out the team will be quite difficult.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:56 pm    Post subject:

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I'd only be cool with signing DLo if he accepted 20 mil or less a year (which he won't).


unless he wants to chase a ring.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:57 pm    Post subject:

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Not really, the pnr game with DLO +AD would be sick.

DLO will also be able to play on the block and post up again, which he never did in Brooklyn.
He would be a great fit to our squad.


Yeap.

However, I agree with others that filling out the team will be quite difficult.
thats why i hope he would sign for 18-20. Dream would be 16-18 per.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 2:59 pm    Post subject:

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Rather get Beverly for 10mil.


we need a PG
And outside shooting, another guy who can set guys up plus catch fire and can take over a game from time to time. Not to mention he's 23. Him and Kuz going forward with AD is not only giving us a chance to win now but down the road as well.


We need defense. Beverly at the top and AD in the lane would be nice.
Dlo is soft.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:00 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:03 pm    Post subject:

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There are some in Boston reddit that think the C’s are gonna throw $32 mill for him.

Amazing bc he’s only eligible for 27m.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:07 pm    Post subject:

I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:16 pm    Post subject:

PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


And this is what is going to drive all the DLo friction and agendas. I personally would love him at $18m and under, he'd be one of my favorite players ( this coming from an anti DLo person a few years back). But I would vehemently disagree and not be happy if he's $27m+

So if we get him, his price tag will ultimately force sides on LG.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:21 pm    Post subject:

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I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.

All star by default. He was an injured reserve in the east. Wouldn't even sniff a reserve spot in the west.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:24 pm    Post subject:

55 wrote:
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adkindo wrote:
55 wrote:
Rather get Beverly for 10mil.


we need a PG
And outside shooting, another guy who can set guys up plus catch fire and can take over a game from time to time. Not to mention he's 23. Him and Kuz going forward with AD is not only giving us a chance to win now but down the road as well.


We need defense. Beverly at the top and AD in the lane would be nice.
Dlo is soft.
Love to have both. And Dlo's defense isn't as bad as it's made out to be. He'll never make all nba defense but I'm ok with that especially if there's someone like Beverly in the backcourt.

I get it though. You don't like his game. You never did and that's cool too. We agreed heavily during the Andrew Bynum debates, i guess on Dlo we see it differently.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:25 pm    Post subject:

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yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.

All star by default. He was an injured reserve in the east. Wouldn't even sniff a reserve spot in the west.


So why didn’t these two highly paid guys make the all star game if it was easy?

Y’all are some hilarious DLO all star Birthers.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.

All star by default. He was an injured reserve in the east. Wouldn't even sniff a reserve spot in the west.


So why didn’t these two highly paid guys make the all star game if it was easy?

Y’all are some hilarious DLO all star Birthers.

Defense with him and Bron would be a joke.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject:

Pau Gasol's Beard wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.

All star by default. He was an injured reserve in the east. Wouldn't even sniff a reserve spot in the west.


So why didn’t these two highly paid guys make the all star game if it was easy?

Y’all are some hilarious DLO all star Birthers.

Defense with him and Bron would be a joke.


Ok. But LBJ was an “All Star.” 😂
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:27 pm    Post subject:

More impressive than being an all-star, or synonymous with it - is leading his team to the 6th seed in the playoffs. Just a big accomplishment for a 4th year player, period.
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yinoma2001 wrote:
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yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.

All star by default. He was an injured reserve in the east. Wouldn't even sniff a reserve spot in the west.


So why didn’t these two highly paid guys make the all star game if it was easy?

Y’all are some hilarious DLO all star Birthers.
LG would be back to normal.
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
More impressive than being an all-star, or synonymous with it - is leading his team to the 6th seed in the playoffs. Just a big accomplishment for a 4th year player, period.


So I’m assuming you are perfectly fine if we bring back dlo right?
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KeepItRealOrElse wrote:
More impressive than being an all-star, or synonymous with it - is leading his team to the 6th seed in the playoffs. Just a big accomplishment for a 4th year player, period.


I’m waiting for the person to deny they even made the playoffs.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject:

Hero Ball wrote:
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I'd only be cool with signing DLo if he accepted 20 mil or less a year (which he won't).


unless he wants to chase a ring.

He's at the age where you cash in, not ring chase.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:32 pm    Post subject:

crucifixion wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


And this is what is going to drive all the DLo friction and agendas. I personally would love him at $18m and under, he'd be one of my favorite players ( this coming from an anti DLo person a few years back). But I would vehemently disagree and not be happy if he's $27m+

So if we get him, his price tag will ultimately force sides on LG.


Signing will ease the mounting tension from trading almost the entire core for AD.

It opens the door to signing some of our old agents back... it's an apology to fans who always supported him. (I wasn't one of those)

A max contract would be an overpay... but if we can't get one of the big free agents, it would be a public relations coup unless he completely fails.

We need to have a high quality scoring guard who can facilitate for AD.

If we can't get Kyrie or Kemba, it's not a bad option.

These 3 and D stiffs who can't create on their own won't be able to bring out the best in AD unless LBJ is on the court with him every minute.

Maybe Caruso will blossom, but it's nice to have a good guard who has shown a lot potential at a young age.

We need another shot creator to approximate the Wade/LBJ/Bosh or the Kyrie/LBJ/Love dynamic.

Pat Beverly or Danny Green cannot help create this threat even though I'd be glad to sign them later after the third option is secured.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 3:33 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
PHILosophize wrote:
I wouldn't pay him more than 18 mil or so per year


Neither Lavine or Aaron Gordon made all star teams and they got over 20m.


exactly - two other examples of overpays
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