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€H£M£$TR¥ Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:39 pm Post subject: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:57 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Nobody knows but if we would have kept everyone we would be giving dlo a max and randle a hefty contact. Also kuz or Hart wouldn’t be on the roster.
I prefer where we are now. |
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Lakerz113 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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Not to mention paying Ingram next season |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:00 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Lebron got us Magic. Let that marinate for awhile when you see us doing Klutch’s bidding. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:02 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Lebron got us Magic. Let that marinate for awhile when you see us doing Klutch’s bidding. |
Is it because you're upset that AD wanted to leave your team? |
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€H£M£$TR¥ Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:04 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Zo Dlo BI Kuzma Zion? Two max slots. _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:07 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Zo Dlo BI Kuzma Zion? Two max slots. |
Dlo is taking most of max slot #1.
Zion? You cheated! |
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€H£M£$TR¥ Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Zo Dlo BI Kuzma Zion? Two max slots. |
Dlo is taking most of max slot #1.
Zion? You cheated! |
😈 _________________ DEAR BASKETBALL |
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Outspoken Star Player
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:19 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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Zo
DLO
Ingram
Randle
Zubac may still be here
Draft Culver, if we got the #4. I don't think we would because we would be in the playoffs.
Lebron was coming anyways, but Jim wouldn't fold to klutch.
Deng and Mozgov is off the books. We opened up space with a developed young core and deep team. Our future looking great.
epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Zo Dlo BI Kuzma Zion? Two max slots. |
Dlo is taking most of max slot #1.
Zion? You cheated! |
We would have DLO's bird rights. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:25 pm Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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Outspoken wrote: | Zo
DLO
Ingram
Randle
Zubac may still be here
Draft Culver, if we got the #4. I don't think we would because we would be in the playoffs.
Lebron was coming anyways, but Jim wouldn't fold to klutch.
Deng and Mozgov is off the books. We opened up space with a developed young core and deep team. Our future looking great.
epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Zo Dlo BI Kuzma Zion? Two max slots. |
Dlo is taking most of max slot #1.
Zion? You cheated! |
We would have DLO's bird rights. |
But cap hold is still $21,059,094 no? |
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lakersfan8 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:21 am Post subject: |
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Starter: Russell, Ingram, Tatum, Randle, Zubac
Bench: Garland/Culver, Clarkson, Kuzma, Nance, Bryant
We would probably still have Deng and Moz expiring contracts for trade for veteran player such as Conley, Steven Adams or Paul.
Or a max free agent was interested to join our group and we found some ways to dump Deng/Moz contract.
Nevertheless, I would be quite excited about the above lineup. |
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Kobesystem Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Maybe lebron doesn't come.....
However, we probably would of had Leonard or pg13 by now, which I would of preferred.. |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:53 am Post subject: |
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probably
DLo, Fultz, BI, Randle, Mozgov
JC, Garland, Kuzma, Nance, Mitchell Robinson
Caruso, Deng, Zubac |
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Zubolo Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:41 am Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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€H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
C - Brook Lopez . Mitch Robinson . Thomas Bryant
F - Randle . Kuzma
F - Kawhi . Ingram . Mykhailuk
G - PG13 . Hart
G - Ball . Seth Curry . Caruso
2019 1st round pick would have been used to trade out Deng's contract |
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Zubolo Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 4:49 am Post subject: |
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My whole problem with the Maginka era is that they did not read the free agency market well at all before signing Lebron. Kawhi should have been the #1 target from the beginning NOT an aging Lebron! They should have done their homework and confirmed whether Lebron's presence will be a deterrent for Kawhi or even KD. If so, you prioritize a bit better.
From there, you can make Paul George a priority, while keeping Julius Randle. You keep Luol Deng for an extra year (play him in spurts.. he wasn't too bad) and then trade him along with the 2019 pick to clear the way for KD/Kawhi.
It may sound like revisionist history but myself and many others were very skeptical about adding an aging drama queen like Lebron to a young developing team. |
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defense Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:07 am Post subject: |
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Not as good as it does now probably |
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DocK36 Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:27 am Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Lebron got us Magic. Let that marinate for awhile when you see us doing Klutch’s bidding. | No, Jeanie got us Magic. Magics constant and public criticism of Jim Buss set in motion Jeanies scheme to oust his brother. _________________ Ringo "You retired too?"
Doc "Not me, I'm in my prime." |
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ribeye Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 7:39 am Post subject: |
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What if we make-believe even more and go back to keeping our picks. Though circumstances would have changed that would make it less likely that the team got Ingram and most certainly, Ball, still, what if the team had DLo, Randle, Ingram, Ball, Kuzma, Lopez, McGee, Zubac, Nance, a mid first pick this year, and two max slots? Yeah, better. Maybe they have Prince instead of Ingram or maybe they have anyone from Mitchell to a bust instead of Ball or maybe they have two busts. Assuming the worst, with two busts and that the team avoided crappy signings, would DLo, Randle, Kuzma, McGee, Lopez, Nance, a mid first pick this year, and Zubac (thus a more stable front office) entice, say, Butler and/or Leonard, and/or another of the first tier free agents? (Maybe I have included someone that resulted in a trade for another but the point remains.)
Of course, this is silly, but since this incredibly thin team just doesn't feel right, with only Kuzma to show for all the many drafts, and with hiring mercenaries instead of showing patience and discipline, I get to vent too. _________________ "A metronome keeps time by using a Ringo" |
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Ujah's Goat Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:27 am Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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epak wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Lebron got us Magic. Let that marinate for awhile when you see us doing Klutch’s bidding. |
Is it because you're upset that AD wanted to leave your team? |
Got ‘im |
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Staccatos Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Assuming Lakers didn't trade away any of their players and the Lakers made the same draft picks, and signed the same contracts, it would look like this:
2019-2020 Salaries:
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C Timofey Mozgov 16.7M
PF Larry Nance Jr 12.7M
SF/PF Luol Deng 18.0M
SF Brandon Ingram 7.3M
PG/SG Jordan Clarkson 13.4M
PG/SG Lou Williams 8.0M
PG Lonzo Ball 8.7M
PF Omari Spellman 1.9M
SF Isaac Bonga 1.4M
SF Svi Mykhailiuk 1.4M
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$89.5M before cap holds
#4 Draft Pick (Deandre Hunter)?
D'Angelo Russell RFA
Julius Randle UFA
Ivica Zubac RFA
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No Kuzma or Hart (they were picks from the Mozgov and Lou Williams trades) |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 8:44 am Post subject: |
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Staccatos wrote: | Assuming Lakers didn't trade away any of their players and the Lakers made the same draft picks, and signed the same contracts, it would look like this:
2019-2020 Salaries:
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C Timofey Mozgov 16.7M
PF Larry Nance Jr 12.7M
SF/PF Luol Deng 18.0M
SF Brandon Ingram 7.3M
PG/SG Jordan Clarkson 13.4M
PG/SG Lou Williams 8.0M
PG Lonzo Ball 8.7M
PF Omari Spellman 1.9M
SF Isaac Bonga 1.4M
SF Svi Mykhailiuk 1.4M
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$89.5M before cap holds
#4 Draft Pick (Deandre Hunter)?
D'Angelo Russell RFA
Julius Randle UFA
Ivica Zubac RFA
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No Kuzma or Hart (they were picks from the Mozgov and Lou Williams trades) |
Interesting, so prob this year's cap goes to resign DLo and Randle then 2020 summer, max space from MozDeng... scratch that, maybe got PG13 so have to resign above cap this summer and just lux tax avoidance letting MozDeng off book next summer, unless trade to go above cap
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Zhengi Star Player
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:08 am Post subject: |
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Zubolo wrote: | My whole problem with the Maginka era is that they did not read the free agency market well at all before signing Lebron. Kawhi should have been the #1 target from the beginning NOT an aging Lebron! They should have done their homework and confirmed whether Lebron's presence will be a deterrent for Kawhi or even KD. If so, you prioritize a bit better.
From there, you can make Paul George a priority, while keeping Julius Randle. You keep Luol Deng for an extra year (play him in spurts.. he wasn't too bad) and then trade him along with the 2019 pick to clear the way for KD/Kawhi.
It may sound like revisionist history but myself and many others were very skeptical about adding an aging drama queen like Lebron to a young developing team. |
How are they getting Kawhi if the Spurs didn't want to trade him to the Lakers? KD also just injuried his achilles... _________________ I'm like a Hadouken, down-right Fierce! |
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pjiddy Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:03 am Post subject: |
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Staccatos wrote: | Assuming Lakers didn't trade away any of their players and the Lakers made the same draft picks, and signed the same contracts, it would look like this:
2019-2020 Salaries:
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C Timofey Mozgov 16.7M
PF Larry Nance Jr 12.7M
SF/PF Luol Deng 18.0M
SF Brandon Ingram 7.3M
PG/SG Jordan Clarkson 13.4M
PG/SG Lou Williams 8.0M
PG Lonzo Ball 8.7M
PF Omari Spellman 1.9M
SF Isaac Bonga 1.4M
SF Svi Mykhailiuk 1.4M
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$89.5M before cap holds
#4 Draft Pick (Deandre Hunter)?
D'Angelo Russell RFA
Julius Randle UFA
Ivica Zubac RFA
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No Kuzma or Hart (they were picks from the Mozgov and Lou Williams trades) |
Mitch would have traded Lou and probably without taking Corey Booker's contract back. Who knows what could have been done with that cap space (sign a good cheap player or rent the space for an asset). Since our scouting dept made those picks, fair to say we might only have gotten one of them. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 11:35 am Post subject: Re: If Magic was never hired as PoBO... |
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epak wrote: | venturalakersfan wrote: | epak wrote: | €H£M£$TR¥ wrote: | What would our team look like after draft night 2019 😈 ? |
Go to bed!
We dont get Lebron? We dont get AD?
But we keep Luke.
Lonzo
Culver
BI
Kuzma
Zubac
Man, that's depressing. |
Lebron got us Magic. Let that marinate for awhile when you see us doing Klutch’s bidding. |
Is it because you're upset that AD wanted to leave your team? |
No, the Pelicans will improve. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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