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PepsiShine Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:20 am Post subject: will Luol Dengs retirement mean anything to the caplock he has on the lakers? |
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do the lakers still have to pay this guy 5 mil for the next 2 seasons? |
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mhan00 Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Yes. |
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PepsiShine Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:24 am Post subject: |
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un effing believable |
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AFireInside619 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:25 am Post subject: |
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PepsiShine wrote: | un effing believable |
Terrible. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:28 am Post subject: |
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PepsiShine wrote: | un effing believable |
Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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ocho Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:45 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | PepsiShine wrote: | un effing believable |
Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have. |
Yes. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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danzag Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:46 am Post subject: |
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This sucks |
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lakers4life78 Star Player
Joined: 09 Apr 2012 Posts: 1985 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:57 am Post subject: |
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This would be the 4th years of the Mozgov/Deng deals.
Mozgov hasn't played an NBA game since 2017-18 and now plays in Russia.
Deng played 23 games in years 2 and 3 of the deal and is now retired.
I'll wait for the 30 for 30 on these Laker signings in a few years. Thanks, Mitch! _________________ 17 time World Champions |
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lakersfever714 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:12 am Post subject: |
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We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust. _________________ Playoffs is good enough. - Jeanie Buss 2024 |
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PepsiShine Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:24 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust. |
there was a time where we would give mitch kupcheck our unwavering loyalty. |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:45 am Post subject: |
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Would have been nice for him to retire 2 years ago. Oh well. |
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twisted Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 11:46 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | PepsiShine wrote: | un effing believable |
Eh, it’s the rules. I think that technically they have already paid him, it’s his cap hold that we still have. |
Thank you Jim Buss. The gift that keeps on giving. _________________ “God knew they couldn’t be on this Earth without each other. He had to bring them home to have them together.” – Vanessa Bryant |
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1hu2ren3dui4 Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt. |
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cal1piggy Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit? |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:12 pm Post subject: |
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cal1piggy wrote: | this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit? |
$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons |
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PepsiShine Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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governator wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit? |
$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons |
the sh1tty part is that if they didnt buyout his contract, we would have never been able to sign lebron, or trade for davis. |
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LakersRGolden Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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PepsiShine wrote: | governator wrote: | cal1piggy wrote: | this is probably incorrect
but did we actually lose cap space?
would his salary have been discounted from our cap hit? |
$5mil for this season plus 2 more seasons |
the sh1tty part is that if they didnt buyout his contract, we would have never been able to sign lebron, or trade for davis. |
We could have still signed LeBron, and he could have been included in the Davis trade as an expiring contract. It would have cost us KCP and Rondo for the last 2 years though. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt. |
Especially when it wasn’t necessary. But there was no way Magic would keep DLO. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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Laker_Dynasty_01 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | 1hu2ren3dui4 wrote: | Just saw D’Angelo on the cover of slam. The cost of signing Mozgov. It’s like the financial bailout. Yeah Ken Lewis bought countrywide for a steep price but it was the cost of unwinding that trade that really hurt. |
Especially when it wasn’t necessary. But there was no way Magic would keep DLO. |
Everyone forgets how mediocre Russell looked after his third year, the Nets didn't even try to extend him that offseason. He and Lonzo combined to miss nearly a whole season, and most of the missed games for both were in the middle to second half of the season.
Carrying DLo, Lonzo, and Clarkson as our 3-guard rotation in 2017-18 likely means another year in Cleveland for LeBron, while making it harder to trade JC due to his reduced role next to DLo (JC was the forgotten negative asset we were lucky to shed).
Finally, the $34 million in dead salary would make LeBron (or anyone) hesitate to join us, and even if the final two years of Mozgov are moved for Dwight Howard, Dwight's buyout is a bigger one-year cap hit.
And can anyone explain why the Pelicans would be eager to accept Deng's contract in the AD trade? Not without unloading Solomon Hill! Griffin liked not having to take back equal salary for AD. |
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venturalakersfan Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:30 am Post subject: |
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True, Griffin said “you are going to give me what I want” and Pelinka said “OK”. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023. |
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yinoma2001 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Deng. The gift that keeps on giving. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals |
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Laker_Dynasty_01 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 10:24 am Post subject: |
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venturalakersfan wrote: | True, Griffin said “you are going to give me what I want” and Pelinka said “OK”. |
Griffin wanted Kuzma...
And the price for AD included an in-conference premium. Danny Green at $15.5M is a better fit for this team than Ingram/Ball are projected to be in the immediate future, and Ingram isn't worth going over the apron to keep. |
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JerryWest_44 Retired Number
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 11:43 am Post subject: |
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lakersfever714 wrote: | We've got some pretty quality FA signings this offseason. Sometimes, its how you use the capspace that you do have. In Rob we trust. |
BTW what grade did MK get this off-season with the Hornets. |
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waterman40 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 5:07 pm Post subject: |
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I was compiling a list of least favorite Lakers over the past 20 years, and forgot all about Deng. He's on my list too...
Grant
Bynum
Fisher
Payton
Deng
quite an assortment - most were spoiled brats, one couldn't play defense. _________________ LAKERS 2019-2020: NBA World Champions! |
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unleasHell Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 9:26 pm Post subject: |
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waterman40 wrote: | I was compiling a list of least favorite Lakers over the past 20 years, and forgot all about Deng. He's on my list too...
Grant
Bynum
Fisher
Payton
Deng
quite an assortment - most were spoiled brats, one couldn't play defense. |
Fisher? really? what makes you put Mr. .04 on this list? _________________ “Always remember... Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.” |
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