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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:16 am    Post subject:

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Adam Silver was not gonna face the type of heat that he would have faced, giving the World Champion Lakers, who just killed free agency, an extra 5 mil to spend. Teams would have went Ape $hit and would have been screaming conspiracy


Silver ultimately works for 30 owners.

29 of those owners are now happy.

This was never getting approved, but I’m glad they tried. It speaks to a thorough process to exhaust all options to improve.


I think the reality is that we didn't deserve it. We bought out Deng and he signed on and played with another team. The notion that he got a career-ending injury with us always seemed far-fetched.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:23 am    Post subject:

Can we make deng play this season? Doubtful we'd want him too, but just curious.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:07 pm    Post subject:

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I get that, but giving them 4 year deals wouldn't have made Jim any closer to that goal. Deng at that point in his career was already no longer an all-star.


I'm not sure what the logic on Mozgov was, but with Deng if memory serves correctly the Wizards offered him a three year deal and the Lakers trumped it by giving him the fourth year.


I remember very well. Wizard wanted to offer him a 3y deal, but it was also less money. In the end Lakers overpay massively for a player who was over his prime, even if he had a good year with Miami. Mozgov's contract was just crass incompetence. He did nothing in his career to justify such a contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:16 pm    Post subject:

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Can we make deng play this season? Doubtful we'd want him too, but just curious.

That would be amazing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject:

activeverb wrote:
babyskyhook wrote:
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Adam Silver was not gonna face the type of heat that he would have faced, giving the World Champion Lakers, who just killed free agency, an extra 5 mil to spend. Teams would have went Ape $hit and would have been screaming conspiracy


Silver ultimately works for 30 owners.

29 of those owners are now happy.

This was never getting approved, but I’m glad they tried. It speaks to a thorough process to exhaust all options to improve.


I think the reality is that we didn't deserve it. We bought out Deng and he signed on and played with another team. The notion that he got a career-ending injury with us always seemed far-fetched.


Yeah this was a Hail Mary attempt to circumvent the rules. Worth a shot, but this is not because the league is out to get us.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:44 pm    Post subject:

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Yeah this was a Hail Mary attempt to circumvent the rules. Worth a shot, but this is not because the league is out to get us.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:55 pm    Post subject:

Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:05 pm    Post subject:

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Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


I don’t even want to relive that fiasco.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:07 pm    Post subject:

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Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.

My understanding was that we're gonna stick with our young core all the way and not sign any superstars for the next 4 years, so they'd sign veterans that would mentor the young core of Dlo, Ingram, Randle, Clarkson and possibly Tatum or Lonzo. In other words, Mitch was gonna do the rebuild the Golden State way
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:19 pm    Post subject:

CandyCanes wrote:
Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


It was a Hail Mary from Jim Buss. He knew his last chance to keep his job was to get into the playoffs. So rather than trying to continue the rebuild, he threw the dice on a couple of ridiculously overpaid old vets on the wild chance they would come through. And if they didn’t, and he lost his position anyway, a side benefit of the long huge contracts is that the new leadership would be so hampered that he might end up looking good in comparison. Ugghhhh!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 5:49 pm    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


It was a Hail Mary from Jim Buss. He knew his last chance to keep his job was to get into the playoffs. So rather than trying to continue the rebuild, he threw the dice on a couple of ridiculously overpaid old bets on the wild chance they would come through. And if they didn’t, and he lost his position anyway, a side benefit of the long huge contracts is that the new leadership would be so hampered that he might end up looking good in comparison. Ugghhhh!


Mitch was expecting another amnesty provision
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:10 pm    Post subject:

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Can we make deng play this season? Doubtful we'd want him too, but just curious.


No. When a team buys a player out, they relinquish all rights to him. If Deng decided to come back to the NBA, he would be an unrestricted free agent.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:47 pm    Post subject:

Mitch is the gift that kept on giving. He just signed Hayward to a 4yrs $120mil contract.

The stark constant between Mitch and Pelinka. I must admit, despite being an inexperienced GM, he had impressed a lot of people with his trade and especially the signing of players. He really knows how to estimate a player's worth and give out an excellent contract.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 11:50 pm    Post subject:

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Mitch is the gift that kept on giving. He just signed Hayward to a 4yrs $120mil contract.

The stark constant between Mitch and Pelinka. I must admit, despite being an inexperienced GM, he had impressed a lot of people with his trade and especially the signing of players. He really knows how to estimate a player's worth and give out an excellent contract.


Yeah, Mitch really fooled people with the Gasol trade. The rumor is that he was actually trying to trade Odom for Mike Miller, and then Chris Wallace suggested the Gasol trade instead.

Guy was a mediocre GM at best.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 2:58 am    Post subject:

Oh if we were able to keep Marc rights....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:49 am    Post subject:

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markjay wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


It was a Hail Mary from Jim Buss. He knew his last chance to keep his job was to get into the playoffs. So rather than trying to continue the rebuild, he threw the dice on a couple of ridiculously overpaid old bets on the wild chance they would come through. And if they didn’t, and he lost his position anyway, a side benefit of the long huge contracts is that the new leadership would be so hampered that he might end up looking good in comparison. Ugghhhh!


Mitch was expecting another amnesty provision


Who makes two terrible signings with the expectation that you may have the chance to partially get out of one of them if a provision is negotiated that is not presently available??
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:55 am    Post subject:

markjay wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
markjay wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


It was a Hail Mary from Jim Buss. He knew his last chance to keep his job was to get into the playoffs. So rather than trying to continue the rebuild, he threw the dice on a couple of ridiculously overpaid old bets on the wild chance they would come through. And if they didn’t, and he lost his position anyway, a side benefit of the long huge contracts is that the new leadership would be so hampered that he might end up looking good in comparison. Ugghhhh!


Mitch was expecting another amnesty provision


Who makes two terrible signings with the expectation that you may have the chance to partially get out of one of them if a provision is negotiated that is not presently available??

Mitch and Jim
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:33 am    Post subject:

SPO200 wrote:
markjay wrote:
Chronicle wrote:
markjay wrote:
CandyCanes wrote:
Someone explain to me again... What was the rationale for the Mozdeng signings in the first place?

My understanding is the idea was Mozdeng would help make the Lakers competitive enough to attract an actual star FA the season after. But how could Mitch have seriously thought that?

Imagine having D’Angelo Russell on our current team.


It was a Hail Mary from Jim Buss. He knew his last chance to keep his job was to get into the playoffs. So rather than trying to continue the rebuild, he threw the dice on a couple of ridiculously overpaid old bets on the wild chance they would come through. And if they didn’t, and he lost his position anyway, a side benefit of the long huge contracts is that the new leadership would be so hampered that he might end up looking good in comparison. Ugghhhh!


Mitch was expecting another amnesty provision


Who makes two terrible signings with the expectation that you may have the chance to partially get out of one of them if a provision is negotiated that is not presently available??

Mitch and Jim


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2020 8:45 am    Post subject:

Nice to hear Deng is doing ok, and eeking by on $5mil per year:

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/retired-nba-player-deng-coaches-south-sudan-at-tournament/
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