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lakersfever714
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Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center.
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samnizam
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 9:54 am Post subject: Re: RUN IT BACK! |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center. |
Might not be a bad idea… hopefully next year will have injury free season. AR continue to develop.. let’s not gut the team to feel good.
For sure I will go away from Hamm |
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JustaObserver
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 10:14 am Post subject: |
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| Dlo walks..now what Pg you getting? |
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kobeandgary
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:14 pm Post subject: Re: RUN IT BACK! |
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center. |
Russell hit 7 threes and LeBron didn't close the game out. Who are you bringing in over Russell that gives you that? |
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As long as we could get a good coach. I think a good coach could make at least half those leads stick. Team was good enough to get the leads.
I think Lakers could use some spot upgrades, the bench was a big ? for me. Hopefully Vincent can be healthy and productive next season, along with everyone else we have of course |
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Brawn13
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:23 pm Post subject: Re: RUN IT BACK! |
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| kobeandgary wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center. |
Russell hit 7 threes and LeBron didn't close the game out. Who are you bringing in over Russell that gives you that? |
Dlo had one good half the entire series. Rui was a complete no show. Stop acting like 2 of our starters weren’t complete ghosts for 99% of the series. No team is winning a title when 2 starters play as bad as they did |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:25 pm Post subject: Re: RUN IT BACK! |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center. |
Russell hit 7 threes and LeBron didn't close the game out. Who are you bringing in over Russell that gives you that? |
Dlo had one good half the entire series. |
Games 2 and 4 were The very good games of DLO and the reason we should be going back to LA down 3-2 instead of out. Game 5 he was off from 3 but effective going to the basket and hit timely shots down the stretch.
It was the DLO and AD pick and roll that won us game 4. DLO getting the ball taken out of his hands by LeBron on game 2 cost us the game. He also hit big shots down the stretch of games 2 4 and 5.
DLO is the key for this team whether you like it or not.
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Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it.
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Halflife
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it. |
lol. You disappeared. Let him opt in and get moved.
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: RUN IT BACK! |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | kobeandgary wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Keep the same team and replace DLo. Get a big to deal with Denver then we'd be unstoppable again. Lebron is still the best go-to guy. AD would own 26 of the 29 teams out there without a true center. |
Russell hit 7 threes and LeBron didn't close the game out. Who are you bringing in over Russell that gives you that? |
Dlo had one good half the entire series. Rui was a complete no show. Stop acting like 2 of our starters weren’t complete ghosts for 99% of the series. No team is winning a title when 2 starters play as bad as they did |
Yea, he's way too inconsistent in the playoffs and that's unacceptable. His regular season contribution is quite meaningless if we were to win games without them anyways.
We need someone consistent like Bron. He literally carried the offensive load every game. Or just get a defensive guard because we know defense can be consistent.
If only DLo went 3/10 from three instead of 2/10, then we would have won the game...lol
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Brawn13
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it. |
Regular season DLo is great, but he never can up that level of play in the post season. That’s the issue. He’s played below his standards every playoffs he’s been in.
Idk how we upgrade but let’s not pretend DLo is a good third option when April rolls around…. |
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lakersfever714
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it. |
Regular season is useless unless you just want to improve your seeding because that's what DLo could give you. If you want championships, then DLo isn't the guy.
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it. |
Regular season DLo is great, but he never can up that level of play in the post season. |
Games 2 4 and 5 were all winnable because of him. Us blowing game 2 and 5 wasn't on him.
Rui was a much bigger problem than DLO. Whom we aren't even in the playoffs without.
If your third option can be fantastic during the season as well as the best high volume 3 point shooter in the league and in the playoffs have 3 out of 5 solid games with 2 of those being great games, you keep them.
You aren't getting another 3rd option that puts up 18/6 on the high volume 3 point efficiency that's within reach or affordable except DLO whom we have the birds rights of.
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2024 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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need a bruising Center.
Need a better backcourt. wont work against:
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| Bron2AD wrote: | need a bruising Center.
Need a better backcourt. wont work against:
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Murray and Fox's teams don't even get to the playoffs.
Bruising center? Draft Edey.
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| MJST wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | need a bruising Center.
Need a better backcourt. wont work against:
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Murray and Fox's teams don't even get to the playoffs.
Bruising center? Draft Edey. |
jamal Murray killed us all 5games. where you been |
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You can do far better than 14.2 PPG, 4.2 AST on .384, .318, .500. The guy barely shot any free throws.
That's the performance you're going to get when you're relying on role players to be the 3rd options.
You can be choosy about spots where he played well, but you need a lot more from the 3rd guy with the current versions of LeBron and AD. They need someone who can score a lot more with a lot more efficiency. They need someone who's a legit option in crunch time and someone who can carry whenever LeBron or AD are having bad games.
If he's not relied upon to be the 3rd option, I'm ok with keeping him. He'll just always have limitations when he goes against elite teams. He can't handle that level of play.
And before it's mentioned:
MEM and GSW last year weren't elite teams. They were injured and worn down. I don't think it's a coincidence that those teams and SAC didn't make the playoffs this year. |
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Dlo literally had a donut game in the playoffs. To say he’s “great@ in the regular season is nuts. With him as our pg we were the 7th seed and 1st round fodder. He is not a difference maker at a position we need one. The west is getting better and he is not.
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| MJST wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | Name a guard that's going to give us 18/6 as a 3rd option while being the statisrtically best(top 3 minimum) high volume three point shooter in the league that you're gonna get for the MLE.
If you can't,then you're saying stuff just to say it. |
Regular season DLo is great, but he never can up that level of play in the post season. |
Games 2 4 and 5 were all winnable because of him. Us blowing game 2 and 5 wasn't on him.
Rui was a much bigger problem than DLO. Whom we aren't even in the playoffs without.
If your third option can be fantastic during the season as well as the best high volume 3 point shooter in the league and in the playoffs have 3 out of 5 solid games with 2 of those being great games, you keep them.
You aren't getting another 3rd option that puts up 18/6 on the high volume 3 point efficiency that's within reach or affordable except DLO whom we have the birds rights of. |
Dlo in a vacuum might be a decent 3rd option. But if our other role players consist of Rui, Hayes, Reddish, Wood, and Dinwiddie then he’s not good enough. If we get better “others” than DLo as a third banana is fine.
But what’s easier to do? Replace DLo or replace basically everyone else? |
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| Halflife wrote: | | Gotta get rid of dlo . We need an aggressive defensive minded guard. While bron is here he will more times than not be our pg |
We've got Vincent, that is supposedly his identity. If he stayed healthy this season maybe we'd see more of that?
Also what about Max? He's supposed to be a POA defender who can spot up and shoot. He didn't get a lot of PT this season and none in the playoffs. Maybe he could be that guy, but we don't really know because of how sparingly he was played
Even still, you need someone who can run the offense along with those types of guards. Caruso was great off the bench for us but we had Rondo to orchestrate the offense.
So if we are moving DLo, which is how I hope we'd get rid of him, rather than just letting him walk away, which feels like a reactionary move to me, we better get something useful to us in return. I'm open to any moves that improve the team, but I think it is hard to replace what he does for us in the current market, when there might be other areas we could improve instead.
For example, Trae Young could lead the offense well but I don't see him as an improvement defensively, at all, and could that even work with his salary? We'd have to make more moves to get that done, and its someone that might not improve us more than say, getting a legitimate big man. |
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| Theseus wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Gotta get rid of dlo . We need an aggressive defensive minded guard. While bron is here he will more times than not be our pg |
We've got Vincent, that is supposedly his identity. If he stayed healthy this season maybe we'd see more of that?
Also what about Max? He's supposed to be a POA defender who can spot up and shoot. He didn't get a lot of PT this season and none in the playoffs. Maybe he could be that guy, but we don't really know because of how sparingly he was played
Even still, you need someone who can run the offense along with those types of guards. Caruso was great off the bench for us but we had Rondo to orchestrate the offense.
So if we are moving DLo, which is how I hope we'd get rid of him, rather than just letting him walk away, which feels like a reactionary move to me, we better get something useful to us in return. I'm open to any moves that improve the team, but I think it is hard to replace what he does for us in the current market, when there might be other areas we could improve instead.
For example, Trae Young could lead the offense well but I don't see him as an improvement defensively, at all, and could that even work with his salary? We'd have to make more moves to get that done, and it’s someone that might not improve us more than say, getting a legitimate big man. |
Trae is better than dlo. The goal has to be better talent. I’m not saying go after Trae I’m just saying anywhere we can improve we need to do it. Imagine if we had kyrie. He plays off ball great. He was there. Murray>reaves, dlo. Supposedly he was there. Dlo faked out the front office. He was all but gone at deadline but we got suckered into thinking he was something. He’s not.
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