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mad55557777
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| pointfour wrote: | | I know Vanderbilt is an elite defender. How is his shooting? Is he Stanley Johnson on roids or legit 3+D? |
33% from the 3, |
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BandwagonLBJhopper
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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Nice - will Ham actually utilize him is the question
Great motor and upside as a wing defender, if I'm him I lock myself in the gym all summer shooting spot up threes. He gets that down his value goes through the roof. |
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lakurluv
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| His athleticism on the wing should make a tremendous impact. He should fit well in the rotation, great motor, good rebounder! |
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slavavov
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | 21-22 highlights
Looks like Ariza on defense and Javale on offense.
Could be fun. |
He looks more like Wenyen Gabriel on steroids.
I love how he makes hard efforts to rotate over and block shots, even when it's not on his man, and how he runs the floor hard on fast breaks.
Even better, he's under contract for next season.
I'm really stoked that we have him now! |
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DShotMaker1824
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Probably the most important player in the trade.
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LakersRGolden
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| slavavov wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | 21-22 highlights
Looks like Ariza on defense and Javale on offense.
Could be fun. |
He looks more like Wenyen Gabriel on steroids.
I love how he makes hard efforts to rotate over and block shots, even when it's not on his man, and how he runs the floor hard on fast breaks.
Even better, he's under contract for next season.
I'm really stoked that we have him now! |
For me, it's mostly it's how he patrols the passing lanes and anticipates plays. |
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LakerDYnasty72
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Now I'm trying to envision a defensive-minded 5 that can also potentially become a closing lineup.
AD
LeBron
Vanderbilt ??
Reaves
Schroder??? |
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slavavov
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| LakersRGolden wrote: | | slavavov wrote: | | LakersRGolden wrote: | 21-22 highlights
Looks like Ariza on defense and Javale on offense.
Could be fun. |
He looks more like Wenyen Gabriel on steroids.
I love how he makes hard efforts to rotate over and block shots, even when it's not on his man, and how he runs the floor hard on fast breaks.
Even better, he's under contract for next season.
I'm really stoked that we have him now! |
For me, it's mostly it's how he patrols the passing lanes and anticipates plays. |
Yeah it looks like he has good anticipation, which is real important to become a good defender.
Looks like he also moves well without the ball and is a lob threat. I can see LeBron enjoying being on the court with him. |
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hydrohead
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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Signed through 2024. Very nice!
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joeblow
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For the official Vandy thread, this will always be my favorite video clip of him in action (that is, until he produces masterpieces in a purple 'n gold uni  )
| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | Now I'm trying to envision a defensive-minded 5 that can also potentially become a closing lineup.
AD
LeBron
Vanderbilt ??
Reaves
Schroder??? |
Honestly, I'd go with Troy at the two in a purely defensive lineup. He's been looking really good for awhile and should shine even more now that there is no reason for him to play as a SF in most cases. Pat Bev is a better pest on opposing PGs, but Dennis is no slouch in competing on that end this season.
Or maybe have Austin as the SG and go big with Troy as the PG? You would have two nice play makers in Austin and LBJ, so it wouldn't be a total mess offensively while they lock down defensively. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:02 pm Post subject: |
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| DShotMaker1824 wrote: | | Probably the most important player in the trade. |
Definitely not. He's a nice piece though.
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Polarbear
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| There were many the thought this guy was worth the first round or just by himself |
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LakerDYnasty72
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| joeblow wrote: | For the official Vandy thread, this will always be my favorite video clip of him in action (that is, until he produces masterpieces in a purple 'n gold uni )
| LakerDYnasty72 wrote: | Now I'm trying to envision a defensive-minded 5 that can also potentially become a closing lineup.
AD
LeBron
Vanderbilt ??
Reaves
Schroder??? |
Honestly, I'd go with Troy at the two in a purely defensive lineup. He's been looking really good for awhile and should shine even more now that there is no reason for him to play as a SF in most cases. Pat Bev is a better pest on opposing PGs, but Dennis is no slouch in competing on that end this season.
Or maybe have Austin as the SG and go big with Troy as the PG? You would have two nice play makers in Austin and LBJ, so it wouldn't be a total mess offensively while they lock down defensively. |
Troy and Austin at the 2 and 1 respectively? I love the size and defensive lineup we can assemble with those two, and some others we now have.
Yep, Troy has been solid for awhile now. Looks likes he's finding his game; quiet offensively, solid D, hit the boards, run the court.
Beverley has been shooting the 3ball well for awhile now too. I knew early in the season his problem was age, and getting those muscles loose.
Dennis has had some good moments defensively. Good thing because he's only at 33% on his three pointers. |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | There were many the thought this guy was worth the first round or just by himself |
Portland and Philly were aggressively looking to pry him away |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Very important pickup. A very young wing player that’s already elite at defense, and can grow into a better shooter to become a great 3 and D role player.
And he’s freaking cheap to boot. Love this pickup!
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Dr. Laker
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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Good 1st-big-off-the-bench. Can change the intensity in defense/press unit with Schro.
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| hydrohead wrote: | | Signed through 2024. Very nice! |
Of which only 300k is guaranteed. He goes fully guaranteed on June 30th before free agency kicks off.
He’s essentially an expiring like Beas (via team option not picked up) and DLo.
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LakerFan1987
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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Watched some of his highlights.
What a potential diamond in the rough. |
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DrDent
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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Just curious, considering the Jazz want to rebuild...why give up on Vanderbilt?
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lar9149
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| Laker7 wrote: | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNYS9sx6nyE |
Good video..his ability to help than rotate to shooters yet still the ability to defend the drive by good rotation of hips sounds like its going to very valuable.
Good foot speed and length.
Put him and AD and LBJ (when he wants to play defense), could be a great defensive combo. |
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bluehill
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| DrDent wrote: | | Just curious, considering the Jazz want to rebuild...why give up on Vanderbilt? |
My guess - Ainge has a lot of 1st round draft picks coming up so not likely to keep him or easier/cheaper to draft a replacement and getting rid of Conley's salary was a bigger priority.
Utah Jazz updated 1st round draft picks
2023 Draft:
Own
Timberwolves — Unprotected
Least favorable of Nets, Rockets, 76ers
2024 Draft:
Own — Top-10 protected or conveyed to OKC
2025 Draft:
Own — Top-10 protected or conveyed to OKC if not conveyed in 2024
Cavaliers — Unprotected
Timberwolves — Unprotected
2026 Draft:
Own or pick swap— Most favorable of Cavs, Timberwolves
2027 Draft:
Own
Lakers — Top-4 protected
Cavaliers — Unprotected
Timberwolves — Unprotected
2028 Draft:
Own or pick swap— Cavs
2029 Draft:
Own
Cavaliers — Unprotected
Timberwolves — Top-5 protected |
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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More excited for this pickup than the other guys in the deal. Finally an elite wing defender.
AD
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leking006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | Nice - will Ham actually utilize him is the question
Great motor and upside as a wing defender, if I'm him I lock myself in the gym all summer shooting spot up threes. He gets that down his value goes through the roof. |
probably will be cheerer in the bench with Wenyen coz ham will still prefer a 3 guard combination of Dennis, Pat and DLo 🤣🤣🤣 |
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aiel
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2023 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| DrDent wrote: | | Just curious, considering the Jazz want to rebuild...why give up on Vanderbilt? |
Jazz see Walker Kessler as more important, thus Van was squeezed. Similar situation when Jarred was in Minnesota, Mcdaniels was also viewed as the more important player who needed minutes. Ask wolves fans how much they miss Van's defense, rebounding, and energy. He's only 23 and his 3 pt. shot improves every year. |
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