“Eat Crow Thread” for MoB/Wen/TBj/LW4/Sho (edited initial premise)

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The torture starts lol!

LW4 avg more ppg than every Lakers in preseason except for AR 🤣
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“When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”

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TaP/Wood looking decent! (TBj/MoB)
Shro/LW4 looking pretty good! (Vin/Cam)

Plenty of game left. Not surprised…good or bad…by:
Vin/Shro, Cam/LW4, Hay/Wen, Wood/MoB

It’s TaP/TBj that are surprising to me tho TaP looked exactly as I expected (0rbs in 26 min and 0rbs in 18min sheesh!) in two games, shocked me (no Lakers 3pt slump) in two games as well. TBj so far looks like I made a bad call. Only 4 games in.
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“When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”

[Inspector Gadget]

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It’s still early…things could change drastically…so no conclusions can be made.

However…so far…it looks like Shro/LW4 should have been brought back for the price they left for if Cam could have been had along with them, maybe sell the 2ndRP for the roster spot or maybe even field 15 players if you want to keep MaxL. Either way, Shro/LW4 were the ones that got away but Cam seems like a worthy addition.

As far as TaP/TBj, neither one looks worth the BAE type money, both look like vet min players. But given the poor 3pt shooting from TaP and lack of defense needed at SG, even without playing time in Minny for TBj, it looks as if for now that TBj would have been a better option since he shot 38% from 3 with the Lakers and played better defense against SGs, which better fits the team needs. The bottom line here tho is that the BAE looks to have been a waste on TaP or TBj.

Hayes/Weny meh, and MoBa is getting no run.

Wood seems much better than either big in consideration.

I don’t see crow on the menu just yet tho Cam/Wood looks like decent moves and Hayes/TaP have been ineffective with Shro looking like an obvious choice to bring back over Vin. Also, LW4 looks good like he did for the Lakers prior to his injury making it a questionable move to pass on him for vet min.
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“When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”

[anth2000]

[hype]

[Scherm]

BTW and FYI, using too many three letter abbreviations can just lead to a response of WTF ?

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With Embiid out, MoBamba got 14 minutes tonight for Philly. 4blks and 4rbs
3-7 for 6pts.

Not sure yet if Hayes is actually better. We may never see it as MoBamba just can’t seem to play his way off the bench!
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“When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”

[dont_be_a_wuss]

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[GOODRICH25]

Wish we kept Schröder instead of Vincent, who still has a chance to prove that it was the right choice. Also, Lonnie at the vet min? Easy, no idea why we passed. I like Christie and Cam has been excellent, but I'd still like to have Lonnie as well. The rest we let go, couldn't care less. They weren't good here.

Brown was useful in the RS, and Gabriel was useful from time to time as the energy guy. And TT also, he showed in the playoffs he's good for a few minutes per half. But those are all easily replaceable. Just Schröder and Lonnie man
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Trade Deadline check-in.

Prediction right that Vincent instead of Schroeder looks like a bad move;
Whether due to injuries or not it would have been the 3rd year of Schroeder with LBJ/AD and he was the starter for most of the year plus helped win the play-in game vs Minny, (should have had the game winning 3 but AD fouled 3pt shooter on last shot of reg), seemed like a no-brainer to me for defense in the back court and rim pressure. Vincent has been a no show mostly and didn’t look good for the few 5 games. Schroeder approx 14ppg and 35% from 3 with 6 apg, need that!

Cam instead of Lonnie Walker seems like a bad move;
I actually wanted to sell the 2ndRP used for MaxLewis so both LW4/Cam could be on the team with an offense/defense sub pattern used. Either way Lonnie’s 12ppg approx 48% shooting with 44% from 3 would have been useful considering 3pt shooting is one of the biggest weaknesses of the Lakers.

Troy Brown for TPrince seems meh;
Gotta give Prince credit for pivoting out of that Laker 3ball shooting downturn. As predicted his declining defense became a problem and as predicted he doesn’t provide much else, waste of a BAE for a 1 year contract as it should have gone to Oubre but I would not have wanted to sign TBrown to the BAE either. I still think TBrown would have been better than Prince tho since Prince is used as a SG defender where Brown was better along with better rebounding. I’m not eating crow on this one but also not saying Rob should have paid BAE for Brown. The best bet would have been to find a better use of the BAE or just go vet-min at the spot to have the BAE available for a back up C or at least have it useable next year.

I’ll take Hayes over Gabriel…tho the numbers are similar to Gabe’s last year…Hayes has provided better back-up C minutes than Gabe did which fits more with team needs. Good job Rob!

Wood over Mo Bamba looks like a mistake. I know some may not agree but Wood get’s 17 minutes to 10 with less than the expected production and fewer blocks. Mo is also shooting 44% from 3 with Wood at about 31%. The play would have been to sign Mo and Wood tho I like what I’ve seen from Hayes in the last couple of games. Given that Wood was signed late whereas Mo let go early with Hayes signed early it was Hayes chosen over Mo. Rob gets a break comparing Mo to Wood as if only one could be had when the better move would be to have both.

Summary:
Schroeder and Lonnie Walker should have been brought back;
Neither Prince nor Brown, either Prince or Brown meh;
Hayes is promising, Gabriel out of the league but should have been Wood/Mo.
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“When it looks as if it is a realistic possibility, I want to focus on winning a ship like it’s a goal that can’t be denied. I didn’t see that this off season.”

[manlisten]

Lakers offered Mo the same contract as Philly. They also offered Beasley more money than Milwaukee. That's why it's not as simple as picking and choosing whatever player they or the fans want.
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It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."

[pjiddy]

Lol @ “wish we had Bamba and his 44% shooting on .8 attempts per game”—all of which are wide open.

They’re shooting nearly identical true shooting percentage despite the fact over half of Bamba’s attempts are at the rim while Wood takes less than a quarter. Bamba creates zero gravity while guys still close out on Wood despite his off shooting this year. Oh and even though Embiid went out, Philly started a 6’8 guy instead at center. And then he went out again with another knee injury. What a loss. He could be sitting in street clothes at Staples right now.

People gotta get over LWIV already. He had one good playoff quarter for us. He’s scoring better on a low-pressure, non-playoff team in the east? Sounds about right! Does he still offer zero defense and zero playmaking?? Wonder if that has anything to do with his team’s lack of success!

[ocho]

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[pjiddy]

[manlisten]

I can see the argument for Bamba as a regular season minutes eater. But I can't imagine a scenario where he'd be effective in the playoffs. Extremely slow, foul prone and not really a lob threat/play finisher. He'd easily get schemed away in a playoff setting.
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It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."

[drae]

Lonnie Walker wanted a larger role and we wouldn't have been able to offer it.

I'm fine not keeping Mo. People here overrated him.

Hayes over Gabriel.

Prince is better than Brown.

The only real mistake was Schroeder.

[manlisten]

Schroeder and D'lo were the weakest links against Denver. That's why the FO attempted to replace both of them.
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It was reminiscent of one of those Most Interesting Man in the World advertisements: "I don't always shoot 6-for-28 from the field, but when I do, I become the youngest player in league history to score 28,000 career points."

[Outspoken]

[lakersfan32]

where's BEA? who's shooting 45% from 3? lol

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