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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:09 am Post subject: *** Los Angeles Lakers vs Indiana Pacers (12/09/23 • 6:30 PM PT) IST Final *** |
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* Los Angeles Lakers vs Indiana Pacers *
T-Mobile Arena • Las Vegas, NV | Saturday, Dec. 09, 2023 • 6:30 PM PT
* TEAM ROSTERS:(link)
* INJURY REPORT: link
Los Angeles Lakers
Indiana Pacers
* MEDIA:
……….. LET'S GO 'VEGAS LAKERS!!... |
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:13 am Post subject: |
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Go Lakers! _________________ Kobe |
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I love haliburton but this is a mismatch. Even though its only a money grab for players, the lakers franchise understands the importance of grabbing the first one. it will be shown in highlight clips all year and end of year and marketing next year. Plus a W _________________ Kobe.
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:21 am Post subject: |
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MUST WIN!
by 30 |
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defense wrote: | MUST WIN!...
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:37 am Post subject: |
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"Tyrese Haliburton bears watching. He looks like an upcoming star. Also keep and eye on Buddy Hield. If he gets hot he'll be a big problem. Myles Turner is going to test AD's want. He's quick, unselfish, and shoots a great percentage from the field 49.8. AD better bring his A game. A lot of fans think this is going to be a cake walk. NOT! This really is a must win, it's for the NBA IN-SEASON TOURNAMENT CHAMPIONS "NBA Cup" LINK
GO LAKERS!!! _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 10:40 am Post subject: |
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This is the kind of matchup where I would've liked to see what Gabe Vincent could do for us.
Guarding Hali is gonna be tough for Austin or DLo, even if we try to put Reddish or Vandy on him (Pacers will run high PnRs and hope for a switch). Having the option to put Vincent on him to chase around, especially to contest that set shot as opposed to a jumper, makes some sense if it were possible.
In any case, our team size should be able to overpower the Pacers' team speed in the end. Let's go Lakers!!! |
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mad55557777 Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:09 am Post subject: |
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joeblow wrote: | This is the kind of matchup where I would've liked to see what Gabe Vincent could do for us.
Guarding Hali is gonna be tough for Austin or DLo, even if we try to put Reddish or Vandy on him (Pacers will run high PnRs and hope for a switch). Having the option to put Vincent on him to chase around, especially to contest that set shot as opposed to a jumper, makes some sense if it were possible.
In any case, our team size should be able to overpower the Pacers' team speed in the end. Let's go Lakers!!! |
even with Gabe, cam/vando should be the ones guarding him. his set shot won't go so well against big defenders. the scary part of the Lakers defense is that when you go PNR, you likely draw Lebron or AD. just ask CJ and BI. |
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 11:45 am Post subject: |
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^^^Sure, which is why I mentioned those two, but when the Pacer PnR is run to screen them off, I'd rather have the Gabe Vincent of last season's playoffs picking Hali up instead of Dlo or Austin. Too bad he's not available as an option. |
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joeblow wrote: | This is the kind of matchup where I would've liked to see what Gabe Vincent could do for us.
Guarding Hali is gonna be tough for Austin or DLo, even if we try to put Reddish or Vandy on him (Pacers will run high PnRs and hope for a switch). Having the option to put Vincent on him to chase around, especially to contest that set shot as opposed to a jumper, makes some sense if it were possible.
In any case, our team size should be able to overpower the Pacers' team speed in the end. Let's go Lakers!!! |
Hopefully the coach is not dumb and primarily guards him with Prince/Reddish/Vando. |
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See if they can keep pace with us _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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Lakersfan1211 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Time for Cam/Prince/Vando come to lock down Tyrese Haliburton like they did with Ingram.
AD -> Turner
Bron -> Toppin
Cam -> Haliburton
Prince -> Hield
D'Lo revenge game on Bruce Brown. |
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Lakersfan1211 wrote: | Time for Cam/Prince/Vando come to lock down Tyrese Haliburton like they did with Ingram.
AD -> Turner
Bron -> Toppin
Cam -> Haliburton
Prince -> Hield
D'Lo revenge game on Bruce Brown. |
Haliburton is putting up some insane 2K style game stats for the Pacers It’s gonna be a tough challenge |
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joeblow Star Player
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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defense wrote: | joeblow wrote: | This is the kind of matchup where I would've liked to see what Gabe Vincent could do for us.
Guarding Hali is gonna be tough for Austin or DLo, even if we try to put Reddish or Vandy on him (Pacers will run high PnRs and hope for a switch). Having the option to put Vincent on him to chase around, especially to contest that set shot as opposed to a jumper, makes some sense if it were possible.
In any case, our team size should be able to overpower the Pacers' team speed in the end. Let's go Lakers!!! |
Hopefully the coach is not dumb and primarily guards him with Prince/Reddish/Vando. |
Ham's small ball rotations was one of my top three main concerns coming into the season (behind only team health and AD's head issues), but so far I've been VERY impressed. He has really put an effort into playing defensively bigger than the opponents, often going with only one guard on the floor.
Considering he has also been tasked at integrating a ton of new players into the rotation in a season where we have championship aspirations, he gets a solid A- from me so far. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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joeblow wrote: | defense wrote: | joeblow wrote: | This is the kind of matchup where I would've liked to see what Gabe Vincent could do for us.
Guarding Hali is gonna be tough for Austin or DLo, even if we try to put Reddish or Vandy on him (Pacers will run high PnRs and hope for a switch). Having the option to put Vincent on him to chase around, especially to contest that set shot as opposed to a jumper, makes some sense if it were possible.
In any case, our team size should be able to overpower the Pacers' team speed in the end. Let's go Lakers!!! |
Hopefully the coach is not dumb and primarily guards him with Prince/Reddish/Vando. |
Ham's small ball rotations was one of my top three main concerns coming into the season (behind only team health and AD's head issues), but so far I've been VERY impressed. He has really put an effort into playing defensively bigger than the opponents, often going with only one guard on the floor.
Considering he has also been tasked at integrating a ton of new players into the rotation in a season where we have championship aspirations, he gets a solid A- from me so far. |
I don't like some of Darvin's lineups and rotations but look at where we are. He's done a good job with what he has to work with. Young inexperienced players. Inconsistent play. Injuries up the yin-yang. No wonder he's like a box of chocolates. When I post in the game thread I smile at the LG armchair coaches. Some of their suggestions are laughable. How many wanted to get rid of Cam? How many don't want Prince. He's 42.1 FG% - 37.1 3P%. Trade AD is prevalent and ludicrous. I like it when Ham goes big. He seems to have figured out when to. This is a rebuilding process. Patience is key. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2023 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Lakersfan1211 wrote: | Time for Cam/Prince/Vando come to lock down Tyrese Haliburton like they did with Ingram.
AD -> Turner
Bron -> Toppin
Cam -> Haliburton
Prince -> Hield
D'Lo revenge game on Bruce Brown. |
PatBev/T.Brown/JTA —> Cam/Vando/Prince _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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They beat the Sixers, Celtics, and Bucks to get here. Absolutely can't afford to have a scoring drought. |
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I have surprisingly enjoyed the tournament, mainly because Lakers and LeBron look so fantastic in these games. But I just have to point out that Saturday's "championship" game with Indiana is basically just an exhibition game, not much different than any pre-season game in Las Vagas. It will not count for anything in any standings or provide any benefits, it just adds an extra uncounted game to the Lakers schedule to make them paly 83 games this year.
I understand there is some extra money to the winning players, but really it is not that much to multi-millionaire NBA players (even if they act like they win a power-ball lottery with their extra $250K).
For the life of me I cannot understand why the NBA would push this tournament so heavily and then make the final BIG game not count for anything? I am just going to ask as a hypothetical, why don't the Lakers rest LeBron and AD and just play the kids? (I know the NBA and LeBron would not allow, but it actually makes more sense to rest the old guys for the Lakers overall season...which does count.) |
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I’m honestly shocked how good Halliburton is when you watch him play. He shoots basically a set shot 3. Barely jumping but he makes it work and his assists/turnovers are insane. |
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Vencal wrote: | I have surprisingly enjoyed the tournament, mainly because Lakers and LeBron look so fantastic in these games. But I just have to point out that Saturday's "championship" game with Indiana is basically just an exhibition game, not much different than any pre-season game in Las Vagas. It will not count for anything in any standings or provide any benefits, it just adds an extra uncounted game to the Lakers schedule to make them paly 83 games this year.
I understand there is some extra money to the winning players, but really it is not that much to multi-millionaire NBA players (even if they act like they win a power-ball lottery with their extra $250K).
For the life of me I cannot understand why the NBA would push this tournament so heavily and then make the final BIG game not count for anything? I am just going to ask as a hypothetical, why don't the Lakers rest LeBron and AD and just play the kids? (I know the NBA and LeBron would not allow, but it actually makes more sense to rest the old guys for the Lakers overall season...which does count.) |
Then let us have our rooks, soph, 3rd stringer and 2-ways play the bulk of the minutes tmrw, they’ll be $500k motivated _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“ |
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governator wrote: | Vencal wrote: | I have surprisingly enjoyed the tournament, mainly because Lakers and LeBron look so fantastic in these games. But I just have to point out that Saturday's "championship" game with Indiana is basically just an exhibition game, not much different than any pre-season game in Las Vagas. It will not count for anything in any standings or provide any benefits, it just adds an extra uncounted game to the Lakers schedule to make them paly 83 games this year.
I understand there is some extra money to the winning players, but really it is not that much to multi-millionaire NBA players (even if they act like they win a power-ball lottery with their extra $250K).
For the life of me I cannot understand why the NBA would push this tournament so heavily and then make the final BIG game not count for anything? I am just going to ask as a hypothetical, why don't the Lakers rest LeBron and AD and just play the kids? (I know the NBA and LeBron would not allow, but it actually makes more sense to rest the old guys for the Lakers overall season...which does count.) |
Then let us have our rooks, soph, 3rd stringer and 2-ways play the bulk of the minutes tmrw, they’ll be $500k motivated |
From what I have seen so far, it might just work! |
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Imagine Lebron, AD, or Hali tearing an ACL in a game that doesn’t count. I think they will definitely all be playing hard though.
Someone compared this to World Baseball Classic and I see the similarities. I wasn’t that into it but the players certainly were and I think I tomorrow night they will be playing like it’s the NCAA Championship |
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Dominic1981 wrote: | Imagine Lebron, AD, or Hali tearing an ACL in a game that doesn’t count. I think they will definitely all be playing hard though.
Someone compared this to World Baseball Classic and I see the similarities. I wasn’t that into it but the players certainly were and
I think I tomorrow night they will be playing like it’s the NCAA Championship | |
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