| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
JerryWest_44
Retired Number
Joined: 22 May 2004
Posts: 25569
|
 Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:58 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Wake me up when the Lakers start playing consistent defense |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46885
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Russell got benched because he was getting cooked on defense and that air ball lay up was horrendous |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakesh0wtime
Star Player
Joined: 28 Mar 2016
Posts: 5384
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| TDRock wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | rybee wrote: | | TP could probably be useful in a more limited role, but Ham plays him way too much this season |
Tp needs to be out of the starting lineup for rui or vando. But vando is struggling to stay healthy. |
Rui is not starting material unless Lebron is out, he doesn’t chase screens well. Vando is basically Cam with less offense.
I got it that TP had a bad game, but he is shooting 38.5% from the 3 this season. I don’t know if that’s the right move. |
Please play Rui more
He doesn't have to be the man all of a sudden but Ham it's like you're either the man or you don't exist. Somewhere in the middle is probably the truth. Please play Rui more. |
I complain about Prince a lot but I’m not even saying he shouldn’t be in the rotation.
He just can’t be playing more than Vando and Rui combined.
Like you said somewhere in the middle would be preferred |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Treble Clef
Franchise Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 23944
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| levon wrote: | | That's an absolutely ridiculous call |
AD had position in front to try to hack his arms or knock the ball away but he let him go by and grabbed him from behind |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JustaObserver
Star Player
Joined: 20 May 2017
Posts: 3314
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 9:59 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| PenG_ wrote: | | Post IST Lakers are complete trash |
Trash? Good SIR WE GOT HAM AS A COACH! Nuff said! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eddiejonze
Star Player
Joined: 19 Dec 2013
Posts: 7388
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The NBA is so dumb, they probably chose to Rig the game for the simple fact that they didn't want a full sweep in L.A., and Spike Lee was courtside.
I'm serious.
_________________
Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mad55557777
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 23672
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:01 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: | | Zillethai wrote: | | JerryWest_44 wrote: |
offense is not the problem |
Please elaborate. |
106 pts is plenty to win…. Lakers play about 10 minutes of championship defense and expect to win |
106 pts is not plenty to win in todays NBA. |
109 now |
Bravo, just slightly below the season average for the spurs
https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/traditional?sort=PTS&dir=-1 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakesh0wtime
Star Player
Joined: 28 Mar 2016
Posts: 5384
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eddiejonze
Star Player
Joined: 19 Dec 2013
Posts: 7388
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Knicks 23 FT's
Lakers 13 FT's
_________________
Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MJST
Retired Number
Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 26804
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Tauren 3-13 for three and it felt like he missed 10 in a row. Sucked on defense. Should have been benched for DLO AOr Rui. Very clearly. He gets too ma y chances and benefits from Vando not staying healthy and for whatever reason Rui not getting minutes.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
levon
Franchise Player
Joined: 11 Oct 2016
Posts: 10828
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:02 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Treble Clef wrote: | | levon wrote: | | That's an absolutely ridiculous call |
AD had position in front to try to hack his arms or knock the ball away but he let him go by and grabbed him from behind |
That's the NBA up its own ass. Here's the definition:
| Quote: | | A clear path foul is now defined as a personal foul against any offensive player during his team’s transition scoring opportunity in the following circumstances: the ball is ahead of the tip of the circle in the backcourt; no defender is ahead of the offensive player with the transition scoring opportunity; the player with the transition scoring opportunity is in control of the ball (or a pass has been thrown to him); and if the foul deprives his team of an opportunity to score. |
AD was the defender that was ahead of Hart. They applied some anal textualist reading of this rule which is totally against the spirit. You and I both know what a clear path foul looks like and that wasn't it. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
bryants2hot2handle
Star Player
Joined: 09 Jan 2007
Posts: 5411
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| that's 3 losses out of 4 since the IST. This is what happens when we don't have help from the refs/nba to market some gimmick. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Inspector Gadget
Retired Number
Joined: 18 Apr 2016
Posts: 46885
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:03 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | TDRock wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | rybee wrote: | | TP could probably be useful in a more limited role, but Ham plays him way too much this season |
Tp needs to be out of the starting lineup for rui or vando. But vando is struggling to stay healthy. |
Rui is not starting material unless Lebron is out, he doesn’t chase screens well. Vando is basically Cam with less offense.
I got it that TP had a bad game, but he is shooting 38.5% from the 3 this season. I don’t know if that’s the right move. |
Please play Rui more
He doesn't have to be the man all of a sudden but Ham it's like you're either the man or you don't exist. Somewhere in the middle is probably the truth. Please play Rui more. |
I complain about Prince a lot but I’m not even saying he shouldn’t be in the rotation.
He just can’t be playing more than Vando and Rui combined.
Like you said somewhere in the middle would be preferred |
This is what happens when your team is over-loaded with a bunch of counter parts players are gonna have there minutes decreased while others get there chance, there is no reason why Prince should be starting over Rui |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rock0100
Star Player
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 5403
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
We are back in the play-in and we are back to below the Clippers while they are soaring.
Amazing! First everyone sits Friday and now this debacle! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Japago
Star Player
Joined: 21 Jun 2018
Posts: 1471
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
The Knicks are a mid basketball team themselves. If you're a title contender, these are the type of teams you should still be able to beat with one of your stars having an off game.
LeBron didn't have it today, and the Lakers just couldn't cope. You just haven't seen it a lot this season since LeBron and AD have almost always played and played well.
The Lakers NEED someone else to lessen the scoring load on LeBron and AD, enable the Lakers to up put crazy numbers in shootouts, and have another go-to guy in the clutch.
Tired of the excuses from certain fans here. They were pretty healthy today and they were still mid.
At their best, the Lakers will be better than this. But real title contenders like the Celtics, Bucks, Nuggets, and Clippers are a different breed. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Denny_Russo
Star Player
Joined: 27 Jan 2016
Posts: 2829
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:04 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| PenG_ wrote: | | Post IST Lakers are complete trash |
Games like these are precisely why the IST is completely meaningless. I mean they played the Pacers, who are giving up close to 130 points a game. Who hangs up a banner for a game that doesn't even count? I can see some bottom dwelling team like the Wizards or Pacers celebrating it, but it means jack for a historically good franchise like the Lakers.
_________________
Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
Starting anew. I'm retiring my main. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zillethai
Star Player
Joined: 22 Dec 2017
Posts: 1178
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Four Decade Bandwagon wrote: | So another loss. Guessing they drop down in seeding. Tough games coming up this week.
But at least we can celebrate winning the IST and the championship game that doesn’t even count in the standings.
Brilliant! |
I think they are in 9th place |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
eddiejonze
Star Player
Joined: 19 Dec 2013
Posts: 7388
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
So glad we got rid of Randle...He plays hard every time he plays us but never played with that hunger when he was here...He's still mad we traded him.
_________________
Creatures crawl in search of blood, To terrorize y'alls neighborhood. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
rock0100
Star Player
Joined: 26 Mar 2005
Posts: 5403
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| bryants2hot2handle wrote: | | that's 3 losses out of 4 since the IST. This is what happens when we don't have help from the refs/nba to market some gimmick. |
The refs have nothing to do with it.
The players were motivated for the IST.
There is no effort or motivation anymore. That starts with your captain and your coach.
We are probably the worst coached team in the league.
We are a Ferrari with a 1984 computer chip running the vehicle. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Treble Clef
Franchise Player
Joined: 20 Nov 2012
Posts: 23944
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| levon wrote: | | Treble Clef wrote: | | levon wrote: | | That's an absolutely ridiculous call |
AD had position in front to try to hack his arms or knock the ball away but he let him go by and grabbed him from behind |
That's the NBA up its own ass. Here's the definition:
| Quote: | | A clear path foul is now defined as a personal foul against any offensive player during his team’s transition scoring opportunity in the following circumstances: the ball is ahead of the tip of the circle in the backcourt; no defender is ahead of the offensive player with the transition scoring opportunity; the player with the transition scoring opportunity is in control of the ball (or a pass has been thrown to him); and if the foul deprives his team of an opportunity to score. |
AD was the defender that was ahead of Hart. They applied some anal textualist reading of this rule which is totally against the spirit. You and I both know what a clear path foul looks like and that wasn't it. |
When the foul was committed, I thought AD was behind Hart though. I think he did it that way to avoid a collision but it changed their positions to each other. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mad55557777
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 23672
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:06 pm Post subject: |
|
|
Cam-2/9
Lebron 10/23
TP 3/14
Dlo 3-10
AR 6/15
This is not going to do it |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MJST
Retired Number
Joined: 06 Jul 2014
Posts: 26804
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| eddiejonze wrote: | | So glad we got rid of Randle...He plays hard every time he plays us but never played with that hunger when he was here...He's still mad we traded him. |
Hartenstein constantly beating us to the rebounds was more frustrating to watch.
_________________
How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mad55557777
Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 23672
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| eddiejonze wrote: | | So glad we got rid of Randle...He plays hard every time he plays us but never played with that hunger when he was here...He's still mad we traded him. |
And that BS 3 he hit was the dagger…. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lakers#1Team
Retired Number
Joined: 24 Jun 2005
Posts: 36403
Location: Nomad
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:07 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| anth2000 wrote: | I am now ok with a trade.
Dlo and Prince are pretty weak.
Rui is not playing enough minutes!!
Ham sucks!! |
You pretty much boiled it down to its essence. The FO better have Ham on as short a leash as DLO has been on. Or that dog laying on Mr. Floor. We need more offense, more defense, more effort.
But Ham starting to make excuses in the presser. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Four Decade Bandwagon
Star Player
Joined: 18 Jul 2014
Posts: 8183
|
| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2023 10:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| eddiejonze wrote: | Knicks 23 FT's
Lakers 13 FT's
|
Lakers 41 3pt shots. -6 pts in the paint.
Settle for bad deep shots instead of taking it to the basket usually ends up that way. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
