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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:34 pm Post subject: The win vs. the Celtics is evidence the Lakers have an attitude problem
While I'm happy about the short-handed Lakers beating the Celtics, it's also maddening at the same time.
We've now beaten the Celtics, Pacers, Pelicans, Cavs, Mavs, Thunder (twice) and Clippers (twice). Even when we've lost to teams like that, we've usually competed hard and lost by single digits.
But we've also come out totally lackadaisical against so many seemingly inferior teams, almost as if the team thought all it had to do to win was to show up.
To me, this says that, while the Lakers have some roster deficiencies, their roster isn't why their record is so mediocre. It's their attitude.
.500 teams usually don't lose so often against bad teams and get blown out while playing well and beating good teams more than a few times. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 9:39 pm Post subject: Re: The win vs. the Celtics is evidence the Lakers have an attitude problem
slavavov wrote:
While I'm happy about the short-handed Lakers beating the Celtics, it's also maddening at the same time.
We've now beaten the Celtics, Pacers, Pelicans, Cavs, Mavs, Thunder (twice) and Clippers (twice). Even when we've lost to teams like that, we've usually competed hard and lost by single digits.
But we've also come out totally lackadaisical against so many seemingly inferior teams, almost as if the team thought all it had to do to win was to show up.
To me, this says that, while the Lakers have some roster deficiencies, their roster isn't why their record is so mediocre. It's their attitude.
.500 teams usually don't lose so often against bad teams and get blown out while playing well and beating good teams more than a few times.
That’s literally what the Celtics did today lol. Wouldn’t look too much into this game, we just caught a team sleeping. Let’s sit Lebron and AD and see if we can keep up a .500 win pace trying to emulate what we did today. Spoiler: we won’t
I don't think it's a coincidence this team fell off after they won the tournament. If your job hands you a good chunk of your salary upfront you probably won't be as motivated to show up everyday to work.
I do feel like this team can flip the switch but they need to stay healthy and create chemistry. Hopefully things turnaround like they did last year in February. _________________
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:25 pm Post subject: Re: The win vs. the Celtics is evidence the Lakers have an attitude problem
Brawn13 wrote:
slavavov wrote:
While I'm happy about the short-handed Lakers beating the Celtics, it's also maddening at the same time.
We've now beaten the Celtics, Pacers, Pelicans, Cavs, Mavs, Thunder (twice) and Clippers (twice). Even when we've lost to teams like that, we've usually competed hard and lost by single digits.
But we've also come out totally lackadaisical against so many seemingly inferior teams, almost as if the team thought all it had to do to win was to show up.
To me, this says that, while the Lakers have some roster deficiencies, their roster isn't why their record is so mediocre. It's their attitude.
.500 teams usually don't lose so often against bad teams and get blown out while playing well and beating good teams more than a few times.
That’s literally what the Celtics did today lol. Wouldn’t look too much into this game, we just caught a team sleeping. Let’s sit Lebron and AD and see if we can keep up a .500 win pace trying to emulate what we did today. Spoiler: we won’t
The Lakers still had to come out and earn this win. Their lead disappeared in the second quarter, but they regained it. I think Boston woke up after that, but the Lakers kept fighting hard and held them off. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
Joined: 03 Oct 2003 Posts: 8377 Location: Santa Monica
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 10:27 pm Post subject:
E_Wulf420 wrote:
I don't think it's a coincidence this team fell off after they won the tournament. If your job hands you a good chunk of your salary upfront you probably won't be as motivated to show up everyday to work.
Which is part of why I say they have an attitude problem. If they got fat and happy after winning that tournament, that's terrible. The only team win that counts is the world championship. You can spend all summer feeling fat and happy after you earn the Larry O'Brien Trophy.
A big difference between amateurs and professionals is professionals always show up to work, while amateurs only show up when they feel like it. _________________ Lakers 49ers Chargers Dodgers
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2024 11:38 pm Post subject:
Every player on the floor today had something to prove... nobody really respects their game or expects them to win a game like this... The Underdawgs!
DLo and AR were not just Generals out there, what is above General
AR looks wildly out of control at times but dude handled the rock and never gave it up once the whole game
DLo had one turnover and two steals in 39 minutes with 14? assists
Jax was a totally different player
Rui was Fire
Defense was other worldly in some areas.. insanely fast switching and always helping.. eyes were like a cat in a fight against all odds
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Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2024 12:14 am Post subject:
bryants2hot2handle wrote:
kfkilla wrote:
I’m convinced the attitude problem starts with LBJ.
This is exactly it.
What kind of example does it set for everyone else when your leader doesn’t even bother trying on defense? _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
I’m convinced the attitude problem starts with LBJ.
This is exactly it.
What kind of example does it set for everyone else when your leader doesn’t even bother trying on defense?
Don’t disagree but Ham should be limiting Lebrons mins much harder. Dude literally has the make miles on his legs, he’s super human but to an extent.
Absolutely agree with ALL of this.
As great as LeBron is, this has always been an issue with him. He can be a great motivator...when he's in the right mindset, and engaged. When he's not feeling it, and/or disengaged, he pulls back from the team. And, as the leader of the team, the team follows his example.
I also agree that Rui should be getting more minutes, which would allow LeBron to get the rest he needs during the regular season. More minutes would also allow Rui to play himself into a groove, since his choppy start to the season.
Hopefully this game shows that the team doesn't need to overly depend on LeBron and AD. Stop with the stagnant offense, and get the ball/players moving. When the ball finds energy, it transfers to the players, on both ends of the court. Looking at you Ham... _________________ ZOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
All I know is we need to get rid of LBJ before 50,000 points is within his grasp.
No disrespect to what he's accomplished because it's incredible to play this well at his age, but he's only going to continue to decline defensively and I don't want us to be a sideshow featuring his five year quest for 50k.
I think he can do it being a decent player, but I don't want to tie up the salary cap and I want us to rebuild with the younger players and get some picks.
I’m convinced the attitude problem starts with LBJ.
This is the real elephant in the room. What else do you call it when the leader of the team is stat padding in the fourth quarter of a blowout loss (houston), then sits out against the top team in the East (boston) on national television. However, it's Lebron's farewell tour, and he can stat pad all he wants.
It's not a coincidence the team made the run to the play-in post all-star break last season with Lebron in a boot.
I’m convinced the attitude problem starts with LBJ.
This is the real elephant in the room. What else do you call it when the leader of the team is stat padding in the fourth quarter of a blowout loss (houston), then sits out against the top team in the East (boston) on national television. However, it's Lebron's farewell tour, and he can stat pad all he wants.
It's not a coincidence the team made the run to the play-in post all-star break last season with Lebron in a boot.
Cant bring it in yourself to say, nope the team made its run when the blood sucking vampire Brick was removed from the team.
I’m convinced the attitude problem starts with LBJ.
I agree 100%. That is why I'm not thrilled about the Celtic victory. I know what's coming...we win, we lose, we win, we lose. Fans are happy, then mad, then happy, then mad. While our inconsistency is partly to blame on the head coach, it seems the Lakers tend to play better when Lebron isn't on the floor. I can't exactly put my finger on it, but I remember once Lebron saying it's okay to coast through the regular season. The younger Lakers seem to be hungrier and more gritty when they play without Lebron. Also, they seem more relaxed and willing to expand their usual effort and play up to their capability. Why that happens, I don't know. I don't know if Lebron intimidates them, berates them, whatever. Fans are not at practices or sitting on the bench or in the locker room. But I really suspect that Lebron does something mentally to his teammates that prevents them from playing to their potential.
While I agree that there is an attitude problem, how does it start with Bron? He brings consistency every night with an all-around game. He may not be the best defensive player anymore, which is understandable given he is nearly 40. The role players proved tonight that the attitude problem resides with them since they rarely play at this level (outside of AR, DLo, and Vando). The defensive intensity was at a fever pitch from the jump, and that set the tone. That is the identity of this team, and they cannot expect to just rely on offense to win games. The problem is that they seem to be simply content with getting in the play-in and going from there (maybe trying to conserve more energy than last season at this point).
Celtics partied the night before but a win is a win. National TV, pressure situation and the backcourt responded. Hayes too, where that energy came from? _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
This is literally why no one can stand Laker fans, reminds me of that other fan who said we were gonna go on a long winning streak, we had a great win last night but it’s just 1 game, being 25-25 is nothing to get excited about we are either gonna be a play in team or send our lottery pick to New Orleans, the real issue with our team isn’t attitude it’s that our players lack that fire and passion and LeBron isn’t blamed for that
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