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^^^I thought about BB King, but this was asking about rock-n-roll, so I left him out intentionally
If we are talking about all genres, there are a number of classical guitarists we could mention
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If we are talking about all genres, there are a number of classical guitarists we could mention |
Mention them. Between you and Larry Coon, I am for sure going to get someone else into my rotation. Anytime someone turns you on to something new, that you otherwise wouldn't have known about, it's a good thing....... Education via lakersground.net.
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| TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | And Kirk Hammett isn't even the best guitar player in his own band, much less the best in rock history. |
You may not like Kirk Hammett or may likely you don't like that type of music. But you cannot deny his greatness after closing your eyes and listening to Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets (arguably the greatest album in history) from beginning to end. No one can jam as fast as Kirk with his pure precision and perfection. Don't base your opinion of him off his last album.
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| unggoy wrote: | | Quote: | ="encina1
If we are talking about all genres, there are a number of classical guitarists we could mention |
Mention them. Between you and Larry Coon, I am for sure going to get someone else into my rotation. Anytime someone turns you on to something new, that you otherwise wouldn't have known about, it's a good thing....... Education via lakersground.net.
See kids, you never stop learning, even when you're as old as me.
And my apologies for not mentioning the great Al Dimeola or Les Paul. |
For starters, I like Timothy Walker. It is classical guitar, so no rip-roaring jams. It's much more relaxing. Even more mellow than Kottke (at least what I am familiar with of Kottke)
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For non-rock guitarists, I like Ray Gomez. It was a long time ago, he's pretty obscure, but man could he play! To see him go at it with Stanley Clarke at the Roxy in the late 70's was priceless. Also Al DiMeola, Pat Metheny and so on...
For blues, got to put Willie Dixon, Buddy Guy, BB King and SRV at the top.
For rock as contributors, Eddie VH, Joe Satriani, Eric Johnson, Lindsey Buckingham, Hendrix, Page, Howe, Santana, Townshend. And I'm surprised no one has mentioned Duane Allman.
For pure technical virtuosity, Steve Vai is hard to top. |
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wow...johnny ramone is ranked really high! that's awesome.
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| The Dagger wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | And Kirk Hammett isn't even the best guitar player in his own band, much less the best in rock history. |
You may not like Kirk Hammett or may likely you don't like that type of music. But you cannot deny his greatness after closing your eyes and listening to Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets (arguably the greatest album in history) from beginning to end. No one can jam as fast as Kirk with his pure precision and perfection. Don't base your opinion of him off his last album.
Here's a list from Rollingstone (top 100). |
I'm actually a musician by trade, and own every Metallica album from Kill 'Em All on. I certainly KNOW Metallica's stuff. Hammett didn't even write the solos and riffs on Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets, Hetfield did. And Hammett is incredibly sloppy live. When you have an infinite amount of takes, eventually you're gonna hit it....but live is the truest test. I don't know if you've ever seen Dream Theater (Petrucci) or Steve Vai live, but Hammett doesn't ever approach what they do. Like I said, he's not even the best guitar player in his own band.
And considering that I mentioned Vai and Becker, I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I don't listen to that kind of music. |
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| TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | The Dagger wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | And Kirk Hammett isn't even the best guitar player in his own band, much less the best in rock history. |
You may not like Kirk Hammett or may likely you don't like that type of music. But you cannot deny his greatness after closing your eyes and listening to Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets (arguably the greatest album in history) from beginning to end. No one can jam as fast as Kirk with his pure precision and perfection. Don't base your opinion of him off his last album.
Here's a list from Rollingstone (top 100). |
I'm actually a musician by trade, and own every Metallica album from Kill 'Em All on. I certainly KNOW Metallica's stuff. Hammett didn't even write the solos and riffs on Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets, Hetfield did. And Hammett is incredibly sloppy live. When you have an infinite amount of takes, eventually you're gonna hit it....but live is the truest test. I don't know if you've ever seen Dream Theater (Petrucci) or Steve Vai live, but Hammett doesn't ever approach what they do. Like I said, he's not even the best guitar player in his own band.
And considering that I mentioned Vai and Becker, I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I don't listen to that kind of music. |
i knew hammett was a bit overrated. Thats very interesting trivia there. I don't mind sloppiness live because I go to a lot of punk rock shows and I guess its hard to jump around and hit every note with precision. Me personally, Id prefer someone jumping/dancing and hitting a few wrong notes than just standing still the whole time and nailing everything.
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I'm more into originality, creativity, passion and what a guitarist brings to a band more than shredding and super fast playing (like Malmsteen) but I do love Buckethead.
I dont think anyone here has mentioned Charlie Hunter. I know he plays 8 string novak guitar (5 guitar strings and 3 bass) and that technically isn't a guitar but he is beyond incredible. He is technically phenomenal, can wank if he wants to, and is super original. Check him out if you haven't yet.
Here are some older favorites:
Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Prince (he often gets forgotten because of his amazing songwriting and overall musicianship), Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp, Andres Segovia, SRV...
And newer favorites from the 90s to now:
John Frusciante (Chili Peppers), Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead). Omar Rodriguez (The Mars Volta), Jack White (White Stripes)
I know I'm forgetting tons of great guitarists but what can you do huh. |
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| Dorray wrote: | I'm more into originality, creativity, passion and what a guitarist brings to a band more than shredding and super fast playing (like Malmsteen) but I do love Buckethead.
I dont think anyone here has mentioned Charlie Hunter. I know he plays 8 string novak guitar (5 guitar strings and 3 bass) and that technically isn't a guitar but he is beyond incredible. He is technically phenomenal, can wank if he wants to, and is super original. Check him out if you haven't yet.
Here are some older favorites:
Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Prince (he often gets forgotten because of his amazing songwriting and overall musicianship), Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp, Andres Segovia, SRV...
And newer favorites from the 90s to now:
John Frusciante (Chili Peppers), Jonny Greenwood (Radiohead). Omar Rodriguez (The Mars Volta), Jack White (White Stripes)
I know I'm forgetting tons of great guitarists but what can you do huh. |
I thought I was going to be going way out by mentioning Prince, but he is a great musician overall
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charlie hunter does indeed rule.
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| I'm going to have to go with Jason Becker. Not only could he shred on the guitar, but the things he's had to endure with ALS... He's just an amazing talent and an inspiration. |
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| Dorray wrote: |
Jimi Hendrix, Frank Zappa, Eddie Hazel, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Prince (he often gets forgotten because of his amazing songwriting and overall musicianship), Adrian Belew and Robert Fripp, Andres Segovia, SRV...
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Wow, Adrian Belew. Totally didn't even come anywhere near thinking of him, but now that you mention his name, it brought back a lot of memories. I think I started getting in to Belew about the same time I was getting into Zappa as well. Maybe people remember Adrian from 'oh daddy', but it went well beyond that for me.
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| frijolero01 wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | The Dagger wrote: | | TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | | And Kirk Hammett isn't even the best guitar player in his own band, much less the best in rock history. |
You may not like Kirk Hammett or may likely you don't like that type of music. But you cannot deny his greatness after closing your eyes and listening to Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets (arguably the greatest album in history) from beginning to end. No one can jam as fast as Kirk with his pure precision and perfection. Don't base your opinion of him off his last album.
Here's a list from Rollingstone (top 100). |
I'm actually a musician by trade, and own every Metallica album from Kill 'Em All on. I certainly KNOW Metallica's stuff. Hammett didn't even write the solos and riffs on Ride the Lightning or Master of Puppets, Hetfield did. And Hammett is incredibly sloppy live. When you have an infinite amount of takes, eventually you're gonna hit it....but live is the truest test. I don't know if you've ever seen Dream Theater (Petrucci) or Steve Vai live, but Hammett doesn't ever approach what they do. Like I said, he's not even the best guitar player in his own band.
And considering that I mentioned Vai and Becker, I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I don't listen to that kind of music. |
i knew hammett was a bit overrated. Thats very interesting trivia there. I don't mind sloppiness live because I go to a lot of punk rock shows and I guess its hard to jump around and hit every note with precision. Me personally, Id prefer someone jumping/dancing and hitting a few wrong notes than just standing still the whole time and nailing everything. |
Yeah, I totally hear you. I mean, it all depends on what you're trying to get out of a show. I've gone to Chili Pepper concerts where Flea might miss a few notes on bass, but his stage presence was so unreal that it was perfectly okay. Or if I go to a Punk Show like you said....same thing.
That being said, if I'm going to see 3G or Satriani, Vai, etc....I'm going to see someone play the bejesus out of a guitar. It's a good point that you make. |
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| unggoy wrote: | Ugh - can't believe I've forgotten these guys. Again, it's just my personal preference, in no particular order
BB King
Mark Knopfler
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Angus Young
Gary Richrath
Tom Morello
Also, this has nothing to do with this thread except it was a cool experience. I was at the Chicago Blues Festival in '01, and we were just waltzing down the sidewalk in Grant Park and came up on this younger guy plugged in somewhere, with this little amp. Turned out it was Kenny Wayne Sheppard, just jamming on a sidewalk. It was unreal. I know a lot of guitarists or fans don't care for him, but I figure the guy played with SRV and Dr. John, so I was seeing something pretty amazing. And it was. |
IIRC, Stevie Ray was Kenny Wayne's godfather, they were very close.
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IIRC, Stevie Ray was Kenny Wayne's godfather, they were very close.
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Could be. I know for sure that Mel Gibson is his father-in-law though. |
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| I can't believe I forgot Knopfler. |
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| Jimi Hendrix without a doubt. |
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| re4ee wrote: | | unggoy wrote: | Ugh - can't believe I've forgotten these guys. Again, it's just my personal preference, in no particular order
BB King
Mark Knopfler
Vernon Reid
Dick Dale
Angus Young
Gary Richrath
Tom Morello
Also, this has nothing to do with this thread except it was a cool experience. I was at the Chicago Blues Festival in '01, and we were just waltzing down the sidewalk in Grant Park and came up on this younger guy plugged in somewhere, with this little amp. Turned out it was Kenny Wayne Sheppard, just jamming on a sidewalk. It was unreal. I know a lot of guitarists or fans don't care for him, but I figure the guy played with SRV and Dr. John, so I was seeing something pretty amazing. And it was. |
IIRC, Stevie Ray was Kenny Wayne's godfather, they were very close. |
Good call on Knopfler. I still get chills listening to "brothers in Arms" (not the commercial tracks, the other stuff).
I don't consider BB King a rock guitarist. If you want to talk blues, wow, i can give you a long list, of which BB ranks bottom third. Love the guy, but he's famous based more on personality and timing than talent.
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toss up between hendrix and page.
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I don't consider BB King a rock guitarist. If you want to talk blues, wow, i can give you a long list, of which BB ranks bottom third. Love the guy, but he's famous based more on personality and timing than talent.
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I saw BB King at - I think - Key Club, and had a great time. Something about seeing someone live does it for me. I wasn't a fan prior, but I am now.
There's a blues guitarist named Rick Olivarez who I've seen in New Orleans as well as a couple of spots here in LA. Nobody will know him, but he was just off the charts good. He's doing gypsy jazz stuff somewhere in Canada now I think and although that genre doesn't have a huge following, commercial or otherwise, he's one of the best at that now too. |
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Hendrix has got to be the most talented.
Clapton was at his best during his Derek and Dominos days.
I can't believe nobody has mentioned Duane Allman and Peter Green, or Warren Haynes.
The Stones were at their best when Mick Taylor was playing lead.
From the young guys I like Derek Trucks (saw him live with Clapton, amazing kid!). Joe Bonamassa is also cool.
The most versatile has got to be Ry Cooder. |
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even though i just started getting into pink floyd, gilmore is definitely up there. I think the solo for "time" is one of the best i ever heard. Gilmore blends his parts into the song so smoothly. And Id also have to agree with a previous poster who mentioned Prince.
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| Paul McCartney on bass. Tragic that his life was cut short in his prime. |
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