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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:20 am Post subject: Most dominant "not a real sport" athlete |
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So I got into this debate with some buddies and I say it's Kobayashi, the greatest competitive eater ever.
Some of the people got really obscure, so it basically came down to Kobayashi and Tiger. It was also agreed by the majority that golf is not a real sport. |
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Flight#24 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Tiger because golf is not a real sport. |
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eureca Franchise Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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No brainer Tiger. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Golf is most definitely a sport... |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: |
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Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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I have to agree golf is as much a sport as Ping Pong.
Tiger is the winner. _________________ "I was laying myself on the line by saying, if this doesn't work in three to four years, if we're not back on the top then I will step down because that means I have failed,"
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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competitive cheerleading is more of a sport than golf. _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
So then boxing isn't a sport either? |
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SoCal88 Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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How about those Full Tilt Poker people? They are being watched on ESPN or Foxsports _________________ Lakers | Dodgers | ACFC | COYS | LA Kings | Rams |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
So then boxing isn't a sport either? |
I'd say boxing isn't a sport.
And neither is race car driving. _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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TheQuestForSeventeen wrote: | TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
So then boxing isn't a sport either? | Semi,.. if you knock the (bleep) out, you definitely won!!! |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe8 wrote: | How about those Full Tilt Poker people? They are being watched on ESPN or Foxsports | And.... I remember when ESPN had a business news report... didn't make it a sport... Because something is or in not on ESPIN or FUXSPORTS doesn't make it a sport.... |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
With a real sport, there is no question that it requires physical skill, strength, endurance and an elite level of athleticism to compete. No one questions whether basketball is a real sport. There are many people that would question whether golf or curling are real sports with real athletes. Athletes like golfers are skilled participants in games like darts and curling.
You can interpret the title of the thread in any way you want but golf is not a real sport and golfers aren't real athletes. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Tark the Shark wrote: | TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
With a real sport, there is no question that it requires physical skill, strength, endurance and an elite level of athleticism to compete. No one questions whether basketball is a real sport. There are many people that would question whether golf or curling are real sports with real athletes. Athletes like golfers are skilled participants in games like darts and curling.
You can interpret the title of the thread in any way you want but golf is not a real sport and golfers aren't real athletes. | Golfer don't have physical skill? You're joking right? Strength? Endurance? Who said anything about curling? We were talking about golf and Tiger.
There's no need to argue this point with you...
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Kobe8 wrote: | How about those Full Tilt Poker people? They are being watched on ESPN or Foxsports |
They also show bass fishing on ESPN. Does that make it a sport?
Same with spelling bees. A sport? _________________ Courage doesn't always roar.
Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying...'I will try again tomorrow.' |
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Tony Montana Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: Re: Most dominant "not a real sport" athlete |
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Tark the Shark wrote: | So I got into this debate with some buddies and I say it's Kobayashi, the greatest competitive eater ever.
Some of the people got really obscure, so it basically came down to Kobayashi and Tiger. It was also agreed by the majority that golf is not a real sport. |
I don't see how any one could vote against the Icon, the Living Legend, the unstoppable force in Competitve Eating, the Great Kobayashi! |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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schumacher = domination. _________________ Music is my medicine |
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Dorray Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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Definately Takeru Kobayashi. |
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Tark the Shark Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | TACH wrote: | Tark the Shark wrote: | Golf is a game of skill like darts, bowling, poker, billiards, etc. Figure skating is more of a sport than golf. | BS.... figure skating is an exhibition; all the competitors points are derived from or based on somebody's opinion. There is no true define winner,.. just an opinion. One of the criteria for sport/competition is that it has to have a clear and defined winner... when it's determined based solely on somebody's opinion, it's an exhibition... Golf has a clear and define winner
Like poker, .... poker is a game of chance with odds thrown in... golf is nothing of the sort... |
With a real sport, there is no question that it requires physical skill, strength, endurance and an elite level of athleticism to compete. No one questions whether basketball is a real sport. There are many people that would question whether golf or curling are real sports with real athletes. Athletes like golfers are skilled participants in games like darts and curling.
You can interpret the title of the thread in any way you want but golf is not a real sport and golfers aren't real athletes. | Golfer don't have physical skill? You're joking right? Strength? Endurance? Who said anything about curling? We were talking about golf and Tiger.
There's no need to argue this point with you... |
I didn't say golfers didn't have any physical skill, but they aren't elite athletes and they participate in a game, not a real sport. They lack most of the physical characteristics, mainly athleticism, that separate athletes in real sports from golfers.
Golf is not a real sport. Thus, Tiger is not a real athlete. Therefore, we are comparing Tiger vs Kobayashi as the most dominant in their respective professions.
It all comes down to Tiger being beatable while Kobayashi can't be beat by any other human. |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 2:38 pm Post subject: |
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i take offense to the notion that competitive eating is not a sport. you have to be in incredible physical condition like kobayashi in order to dominate like he does and you also need to go through brutal training. eating is a sport and kobayashi is the most dominant athlete in ANY sport.
golf is not a sport. _________________ 14-5-3-12 |
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Kobayshai is unstoppable
There's a SportsCenter Ad on iTunes that involves the Hot Dog King. You can download it for free. _________________ Double rings > Double rainbow |
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Tony Montana Star Player
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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galtarafalcon824 wrote: | Kobayshai is unstoppable
There's a SportsCenter Ad on iTunes that involves the Hot Dog King. You can download it for free. |
That's like watching Kobe drop 81...
Greatness that comes once in a lifetime.. |
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