LAKERS -at- CELTICS - 6/17 - Thoughts and :-(( Ratings

Sister Golden Hair · Franchise Player Joined: 01 May 2001 Posts: 15872

Phil's words at half-time must have sounded hollow to the players because he "gave it away" to Boston just a smuch as they did. I thought he git thoroughly outcoached. His stubborness with rotations, with TO's, and with needed adjustments was huuuuuge.

It just felt like he was detached and coasting through much of th series. the team never seemed prepared once Boston deviated from their own tendencies/script.

Phil did a great job to get the team here, but seemed to lose interest once they got to the finals.

Just a wierd, detached performance by the zen master.

SGH

yanyon · Star Player Joined: 06 Nov 2007 Posts: 1424

thank you DB for your incredible effort in giving us updates of both game and player statistics in each game whether summer league, pre-season, regular season games and till the finals... you are truly lakers by heart just like some of us here. i always appreciate the effort that you give specially if it takes away time from your family. thanks to them as well for letting you continue what you do best. i hope next season will bring us a better situation. i hope next year we win it all. goodluck with this offseason and i hope to see you back hear with your tremendous game stats.

baconbish · Starting Rotation Joined: 30 Dec 2007 Posts: 234

thanks DB for everything youve done this past season. your reviews have always been fun to read. after each game i would always compare what smileys i had in my head going for each player with what you would put.

thanks again for taking out the time to do something for the fans here. much love! and enjoy the break

Arizona · Star Player Joined: 11 Oct 2007 Posts: 3177 Location: PHX

Thanks DB for all the effort you put into these all season long. It's one of my favorite things about LG. Now take a well deserved rest and let's go again in October!

Go Lakers!
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d4rko · Sixth Man Joined: 19 Feb 2008 Posts: 29

Thanks for all the reviews DB.

GasolFolks! · Rookie Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 23

DB,

I don't usually read the frowny recaps, but since this is the last of the season... Thanks for another year of great work, too bad the Lakers couldn't follow more of your advice in this series.

If we had to lose, this is probably the best way to go. The crushing pain should get the whole organization motivated.

As for the big picture, the season was not in vain. We went from "what package will the Bulls offer?" to favored in the Finals. Erase a few quarters of lapses and the whole series looks different. The Celtics, post Garnett trade, were favored to win it all; they met their expectations. Meanwhile, we got a good hard painful look at our deficiencies. The loss here will guide future transactions. Specifically, we need some bruisers. Fortunately, we have the pieces to get a trade done.

8750 · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:21 pm Post subject:

Thanks, DB, from the heart

88MAGIC88 · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:26 pm Post subject:

DB, you're the King! Thanks for all your hard work.

Mel Rose · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:27 pm Post subject:

Thanks, DB, for all the great write-ups this year. Enjoy some family time!

KB0024 · Starting Rotation Joined: 13 May 2006 Posts: 485

MVP chant for DB

J.C. Smith · Franchise Player Joined: 23 Jun 2005 Posts: 12700

The thing that bothered me most is that at halftime Phil stressed ball movement and penetration. We then came out and launched jump shots with very little ball movement.

lakefan24 · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:33 pm Post subject:

Good Job DB. Always doing a good job. And good job Lakers for getting to the finals.

SweetP · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:

John O · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:53 pm Post subject:

Thanks, DB, for the amazing and much appreciated effort, game after game.

Sad it ended like this but we'll be back next year!

dawglaker · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject:

thanx for everythin DB till next season, hopefully with the return of Bynum we'll sweep the motherf*ckers
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jodeke · Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 11:24 pm Post subject:

Great recap DB. My first year on LG. It's, IMO, the best site on the web for Laker chats. We started the year with a team that was picked to lose in the first round. We made it to the finals and had hope. I changed my avatar back to Taz but I do believe. Next year will be one that will produce a dynasty or at the very least a very entertaining season. Laker for life......
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A Mad Chinaman · Star Player Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 6211

DB

I want to join the legion of fans on this newsgroup in giving you HUGE PROPS for you always amazing and insightful breakdowns of all the games. Thank You.

DB Questions

Re: Phil Jackson Being Outcoached
All one has to ask is this question - would you rather have Doc Rivers than Phil Jackson?!?! Easy answer, its PJ

Game 6 Loss
A loss is not disappointing, but failing to compete is very disappointing - which appeared to happened from the 3rd quarter on - as noted by Phil Jackson's statement of how deflated the team was during halftime. In painful retrospect, there might be more value in being demolished in the last game that provides a tangible example of what it takes to win a championship. Of course, one would get LO's comments that is lackdaisal along with Sasha's comments that he will immediately get back into the gym to improve his game (I luv his comments!)

Rick Fox's Assessment
He stated that the Lakers need somebody that provides a more physical presence in the paint. Isn't Turiaff suppose to be that person - who would be even more useful when Bynum returns? It is recognized that Turiaff still has a developing offensive/defensive game, so one wonders what Rick Fox was thinking. Of course, PJ didn't use him so maybe this season he thought that Turiaff wasn't ready since he wasn't bringing anything to the game.

LO
Rick Fox's assessment that if the Triangle isn't effectively working, than LO seems to fade away. Add to that that Pau was taken out of the game with his "wimpy" moves around the basket, it takes away the Kobe/Pau 2 man game that LO fees off (good coaching by the Celtics). I guess that means that LO doesn't have the game to create shots for himself?!?!

Conslusion
Next season definitely looks bright - especially if the young Lakers (anyone outside of DFish and Kobe) now completely understands what is needed to win at the highest level!

X56 · Starting Rotation Joined: 24 Apr 2005 Posts: 675

Thanks for recaps DB.

I know i was hoping for a smiley but after half time, i was just wishing that if we do lose, at least we go out fighting and lose with dignity. Unfortunately such wasn't the case.

I have a feeling that the Christmas game next year will be LA vs. Boston.

16 smileys for next year's playoffs.

All the best to you and your family.
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BenO · Sixth Man Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 90

DB thankyou for all your hard work over the season. I read your recap every game without fail, and being based in Australia that's about the only way I get to keep track of what's going on.

Fingers crossed they give you a max contract over the summer so we can guarantee your services well into the next decade.

oaktown_dimond · Star Player Joined: 16 Nov 2007 Posts: 1374

it sucked, but i think the pain will make our team better. the young guys had to have their hearts broken. gasol DEFINITELY needed to get his hopes crushed.

why? it's called the mutha of all motivation. to whoop some ass and take names next year - so they never have to feel this way again.

just like how jordan decimated thomas and the pistons in 91 after losing to them in 90.

Robby

Prometheus8 · Star Player Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 1851

Thanks for your dedication and great analysis all year long DB.

Tough ending, but the Lakers did hugely overachieve this season. With a few breaks the last game could be all smiley faces next season.
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tigerladygal · Sixth Man Joined: 18 Jun 2008 Posts: 31

...DancingBarry,
been visiting this site on and off, made a couple of posts in the past but haven't been back here til this past week.

Thanks for allowing us to share our thoughts. And good to be back here, posting again.

......although, i don't know if i'll be a regular here or not..

First off, concur with your opening post and analysis.

As for the season and Finals, well, i'm sure all of us didn't expect the Lakers to pull off a Finals appearance. Let alone won 2 games against the mighty, loaded and hungry Celtics squad.

As for the coaching in the Finals, esp. by Phil Jackson, i thought he was partly "outcoached" by Rivers, but only to a certain degree. But, IMO, the majority of the outcomes rest on the players/personnel. In other words, Phil simply didn't have the personnel (3 hungry future hall-of-famers vs. 1 future hall-of-famer). As they are the ones executing/not executing the plays. Not Phil. After all, as this sounds like a cliche, the league is a players' league. They're the ones running and making the plays, deciding the outcome. So, no matter what type of strategy, x's and o's Phil tried to figure out, his team was simply was out-manned, out-physique and out-sized. Simply put: the Lakers, as a team, were outmatched (in every ways).
Then you add the youth of the Lakers team vs. the experience, tenacity and hunger of the Celtics players and no doubt, it is a NO-QUESTION ASKED series, which team would come out victorious.

Anyway, i think the Lakers should be proud of their accomplishments this yr. No one, not even the players on this team would have ever imagined playing in the Finals, let alone reaching the Conference Finals.
And like what everyone else have written and put in their 2 cents, it's a learning experience and something this young Lakers squad should and could take with them heading into next season's pre-season training camp-->and regular season. They should be thankful for this humbling experience.

To end, here's a wish to a HEALTHY, safe Lakers team for next season and most importantly one that will be H-U-N-G-R-Y to taste the title.

*On that note, i'm looking fw to more post-season chat in here. On what kind of players movements or available players the management is planning to recruit from the FA pool. Or maybe, the team stays relatively pat and build on the current roster. Anyway, should be an interesting one.

moonriver24 · Franchise Player Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 15266

DB, as far as I remember, I seldom posted in your "forum" before. But of course I have always been looking forward to your

all the time as it meant we won the game on that day.

Thank you for your analysis. I have been tempted to post as 80th as I could never be first after you did your posting.

It's been enjoyable season. Despite the loss, Lakers are still my true champions. I think game 2 defined everything (despite we lost badly on game 4). I think if we took game 2 and then up 2-1 after 3 games, we would have not choked game 4.

I am not that bitter anyway. before the game I prayed for a fairly officiated game and let the best win it. Celtics did it. Congrats to them. But I know we'll be back stronger than ever next season with Bynum helathy and hopefully a better team. I amexpecting some offseason moves by Mitch.

I am looking forward to see the ring next season!
Enjoy the summer!
Again, thanks!
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LongtimeLakerLover · Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:36 am Post subject:

Thanks to Mrs. DB and kids, too!!!!

We appreciate your time and attention DB. You do a stellar job and deserve all the accolades you've received here. Thanks for all you do.

Terrible ending to a wonderful season. You know some trades will be going down. LO and Radman should be leaving us, but not sure who Mitch could garner.

Considering we were on the brink of imploding this year, along with injuries and what not, well - 2 wins away from a championship is wayyy more than anyone was thinking. To come so far is disappointing, but our young guys got invaluable experience playing in the finals, and next year we'll be even better.

Only 4 months 'till the regular season with the Olympics in between? I'll take it!
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filipensses · Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:52 am Post subject: