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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:53 pm Post subject:
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why? _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:04 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why?
Since you said favorite and not greatest, mine would probably be Enemy of the State or Bad Boys, due to plot, production values, fun/solid performances, and the chemistry among the leads. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:21 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why?
Since you said favorite and not greatest, mine would probably be Enemy of the State or Bad Boys, due to plot, production values, fun/solid performances, and the chemistry among the leads.
What are your opinions of I Am Legend? _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:32 pm Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
Omar Little wrote:
kikanga wrote:
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why?
Since you said favorite and not greatest, mine would probably be Enemy of the State or Bad Boys, due to plot, production values, fun/solid performances, and the chemistry among the leads.
What are your opinions of I Am Legend?
I liked it, although the putting the dog down scene was really in my can’t stand area. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:32 pm Post subject:
I actually really enjoyed Hitch fwiw. Thin concept but well executed and you liked all the players. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why?
Eesh. I don't even know. I guess IAL because I enjoy the zombie genre, but the CGI was tough to the point of painful to watch. I had to agree with myself to ignore it so's I could finish the film. Otherwise, I liked the story/theme. Smith is an all right actor. Dunno if he's a great one by any measure, but I heard he got good reviews for a gay character he played in another movie I've yet to see. It was billed at the time like Leo's role in Gil Grape was. I didn't like Happyness. Found it trite. My view on Will is that he can carry a role like that and Legend, etc, but I dunno if he really will get or select a role that's serious and that knocks the audience out.
Instance, rewatched Glory over the last few days because it's been on a lot. Denzel. You can clearly see that Denzel had the goods. That movie was Broderick's attempt to branch out into a serious role and he did well from the Ferris/War Games era. I can't think of a powerful and technically great performance by Will OR one of those branch out roles. I'd be glad if he did as I have no grudge against him. He's on the cusp to me and I know he's made millions and all that, but maybe that means he'll never do the above mentioned because he has attained success as a lead man. What's the reason for him to prove himself anymore? A lot of people tell that question to the doubters and I wouldn't doubt if Will is one of them. _________________ GOAT MAGIC REEL SEDALE TRIBUTE EDDIE DONX!
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:41 am Post subject:
I can't help but see Will the person no matter what role he plays.
It's "Will playing a zombie apocalypse survivor".
Or "Will playing a tecnnology skeptic" (I Robot).
Or "Will playing Muhammed Ali" (Ali).
FWIW, those are my 3 favorite Will movies. But I'm very self aware I'm watching him play a role whenever he acts. It's tough to explain beyond that.
And if I'm honest, that's what separates Brad Pitt from Leonardo Dicaprio in my book as well.
Maybe Will and Brad are just too damn charismatic as people for their own good (for me). I forget I'm watching Leo when I watch Shutter Island, Inception , Revenant, or Wolf of Wall Street. But as good as Money Ball was. I still just saw it as a movie where Brad played a MLB GM. _________________ "Every hurt is a lesson, and every lesson makes you better”
I can't help but see Will the person no matter what role he plays.
It's "Will playing a zombie apocalypse survivor".
Or "Will playing a tecnnology skeptic" (I Robot).
Or "Will playing Muhammed Ali" (Ali).
FWIW, those are my 3 favorite Will movies. But I'm very self aware I'm watching him play a role whenever he acts. It's tough to explain beyond that.
And if I'm honest, that's what separates Brad Pitt from Leonardo Dicaprio in my book as well.
Maybe Will and Brad are just too damn charismatic as people for their own good (for me). I forget I'm watching Leo when I watch Shutter Island, Inception , Revenant, or Wolf of Wall Street. But as good as Money Ball was. I still just s
aw it as a movie where Brad played a MLB GM.
Haha. I accidentally posted a Rachel Maddow thing in here if you saw that and went wtf, kikanga. Edited it out. Meant that for the politics thread.
Agree on Will. Probably encapsulated and stated it more succinctly than I did. I remember him from Summertime and Mike Tyson/Freddy Krueger songs. I think he's capable of a tour de force, but it's the roles and maybe the willingness and approach he takes.
Never felt that way re: Pitt. Recently saw his bits in River Runs Thru It (which I've never seen in full, caught a tidbit of him fly fishing) and True Romance as a stoner visited by James Gandolfini. They prolly became friends on that set, I love Jimmy G, mang. He still has that Steve Irwin effect on me where I can't not feel sad when I see him because of the obvious. Leo I had a real gripe about because he looked like a boy until he was 30. I hated him as the lead man in Titanic opposed to the female role who looked 10 yrs older than him at the time. He's finally old enough that I don't get that feeling anymore. Never saw Gil Grape, but I love that movie from 1993 called "This Boy's Life". If you haven't seen that one look for it, also has DeNiro in a great performance. Leo WAS a boy in 93, so I didn't mind. Oh, also didn't mind him as a teen in "The Quick And The Dead". He was well-cast for said role.
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:23 am Post subject:
kikanga wrote:
I can't help but see Will the person no matter what role he plays.
It's "Will playing a zombie apocalypse survivor".
Or "Will playing a tecnnology skeptic" (I Robot).
Or "Will playing Muhammed Ali" (Ali).
FWIW, those are my 3 favorite Will movies. But I'm very self aware I'm watching him play a role whenever he acts. It's tough to explain beyond that.
And if I'm honest, that's what separates Brad Pitt from Leonardo Dicaprio in my book as well.
Maybe Will and Brad are just too damn charismatic as people for their own good (for me). I forget I'm watching Leo when I watch Shutter Island, Inception , Revenant, or Wolf of Wall Street. But as good as Money Ball was. I still just saw it as a movie where Brad played a MLB GM.
I get that, although Brad is by far the best actor of the three. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
After getting more info about "shorting" the last few weeks I rewatched The Big Short again and totally enjoyed it. All actors but especially Christian Bale were fantastic. _________________ “Properly read, the bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.”
― Isaac Asimov
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 9:10 am Post subject:
1) Bad Boys
2) Independence Day
3) Enemy Of The State
In there just because...Wild Wild West _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
^ it’s one of those movies that was really bad upon first viewing but rewatched are enjoyable because you know how campy it is at that point. I think initial expectations were action comedy similar to MIB but it was far more campy than expected. It’s almost like a James Bond spoof set in the 1800’s.
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:38 pm Post subject:
loslakersss wrote:
^ it’s one of those movies that was really bad upon first viewing but rewatched are enjoyable because you know how campy it is at that point. I think initial expectations were action comedy similar to MIB but it was far more campy than expected. It’s almost like a James Bond spoof set in the 1800’s.
Well, that’s exactly what the original show was. I thought the casting was bad. Smith just didn’t resonate as even a spoof of the character, and despite the fact that Kevin Kline has great chemistry with almost everyone he works with, there was none with Smith. Branaugh was fun in a cartoonishly over the top “Alan Rickman from Robin Hood on meth” type performance _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 12:41 pm Post subject:
panamaniac wrote:
Agreed, and on a personal note I did rock the soundtrack a fair bit, that theme song is fire.
Lol, Smith with his go to trio of “lyrics” from that period:
Whoo!
Unh!
Unh hah! _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
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Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:26 pm Post subject:
Omar Little wrote:
kikanga wrote:
I can't help but see Will the person no matter what role he plays.
It's "Will playing a zombie apocalypse survivor".
Or "Will playing a tecnnology skeptic" (I Robot).
Or "Will playing Muhammed Ali" (Ali).
FWIW, those are my 3 favorite Will movies. But I'm very self aware I'm watching him play a role whenever he acts. It's tough to explain beyond that.
And if I'm honest, that's what separates Brad Pitt from Leonardo Dicaprio in my book as well.
Maybe Will and Brad are just too damn charismatic as people for their own good (for me). I forget I'm watching Leo when I watch Shutter Island, Inception , Revenant, or Wolf of Wall Street. But as good as Money Ball was. I still just saw it as a movie where Brad played a MLB GM.
I get that, although Brad is by far the best actor of the three.
Fwiw, I invite you to watch a double feature of A River Runs Through it and Spy Game. The first is directed by Redford and the second stars both Redford and Pitt, and along with their easy but deep and crackling chemistry, you easily see how much Pitt resembles a young Redford in so many ways. And how good both of them are lifting a prosaic if well done thriller with the nuance of their acting. Pitt is probably his generation’s most underrated actor, precisely because of how charismatic he is. But he is completely unafraid of any type roles, even those that don’t show off his pretty looks. He’s as at home in 12 monkeys as he is in Legends of the Fall.
That easy chemistry with another actor, Clooney, who like Pitt and Redford is both massively charismatic and wears it very easily, makes the ocean franchise what it is. It is a commercial romp for sure, but their partnership on and off screen drives it. He’s the kind of actor that rather than overshadowing a cast or competing with other strong leads blends and pulls good performances out of them. I admire his work a lot. _________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel
Question for the thread.
What is your favorite Will Smith movie? And why?
The Pursuit of Happyness Enemy of the State I Am Legend Six Degrees of Separation Men in Black
Need to rewatch Hitch and Ali.
I think "Happyness" is arguably his best performance and one of the more underrated films of the '00s. It's the beginning of Smith's unfortunate sentimental dramatic run, but underneath the occasional cloying schmaltz is the clear-eyed pragmatism that money is essential to happiness in America. _________________ Under New Management
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