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Bergamotichek
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| Zhengi wrote: |
Actually, I don't have to "wanna" live in a world where the'll do anything to screw over Kobe. I'm already living in it. How many haters came out when Kobe scored 62 pts in 3 quarters? How many haters came out when he scored 81 pts? Kobe is one of the few athletes who balances upon that fine line between love and hate. It's the reality of the matter. So therefore, I would not be surprised if Kobe doesn't get into that list. |
Just as there are haters for every great player.
Like I said... you choose to live in that world. |
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Zhengi
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: | | Actually, I don't have to "wanna" live in a world where the'll do anything to screw over Kobe. I'm already living in it. How many haters came out when Kobe scored 62 pts in 3 quarters? How many haters came out when he scored 81 pts? Kobe is one of the few athletes who balances upon that fine line between love and hate. It's the reality of the matter. So therefore, I would not be surprised if Kobe doesn't get into that list. |
You do realize Kobe had the 2nd most votes in the All-star and do you know realize the NBA is gonna pick not the fans.  |
Huh?!? What are you saying? 
That was hard to decipher. On the one hand, you say that Kobe has the 2nd most votes in the All-Star game (the fans vote the starters into the All-Star game). And on the other hand, you're saying it's the NBA who picks the top 60 NBA players, not the fans. What does one have to do with the other??
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Zhengi
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: |
Actually, I don't have to "wanna" live in a world where the'll do anything to screw over Kobe. I'm already living in it. How many haters came out when Kobe scored 62 pts in 3 quarters? How many haters came out when he scored 81 pts? Kobe is one of the few athletes who balances upon that fine line between love and hate. It's the reality of the matter. So therefore, I would not be surprised if Kobe doesn't get into that list. |
Just as there are haters for every great player.
Like I said... you choose to live in that world. |
Unless I'm actually participating in the hating, I doubt I actually live in a world just for hating. 
But, there are people who do hate upon great players, and unless they're living in some different alternate world, I don't see how they are not a part of this one where everyone lives 
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: |
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| Zhengi wrote: | Huh?!? What are you saying?
That was hard to decipher. On the one hand, you say that Kobe has the 2nd most votes in the All-Star game (the fans vote the starters into the All-Star game). And on the other hand, you're saying it's the NBA who picks the top 60 NBA players, not the fans. What does one have to do with the other?? |
What i'm trying to say is your living in your own world just like JD said. |
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Zhengi
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: | Huh?!? What are you saying?
That was hard to decipher. On the one hand, you say that Kobe has the 2nd most votes in the All-Star game (the fans vote the starters into the All-Star game). And on the other hand, you're saying it's the NBA who picks the top 60 NBA players, not the fans. What does one have to do with the other?? |
What i'm trying to say is your living in your own world just like JD said. |
Okay, but it sure didn't seem like it in that other post you wrote.
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Zhengi wrote: | | I doubt Kobe gets mentioned in the top 60. There's just too much hate going on out there and to acknowledge Kobe as one of the top 60 would go against that grain. However, I do see the NBA placing Lebron into the top 60. That's just the way the NBA works. |
I don't think they would take it that far and exclude him. |
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Quote: | | I say top 5 of all time. AT LEAST (not being biased) |
No. Not yet IMO.
He is approaching top 20 though. |
he better than jordan, dont deny that... if you do then you probably just scared to say it |
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CrimsonLaker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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The NBA as an organization doesn't hate Kobe. The NBA as an organization loves Kobe. I know its cool for Laker fans to believe that the world is against Kobe and the Lakers, and when it comes to the media, that may be the case. But for the NBA....Kobe is still the poster child. The NBA revolves around Kobe.
If the media is picking the players, then Kobe makes it. Even Mariotti said Kobe is a top 20 player of all time and Woody said he was top 15. Those two are the biggest Kobe haters I've ever seen and they rank Kobe higher historically than many Laker fans rate Kobe.
If the TNT crew picks, Kobe might get left off....cause charles barkley is a moron. |
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Well, I just cant see anyone leaving him off top 60 of all time? Think about it, can u name 60 players in history better than Kobe, Able to do the things he can do?, Score the way he does, have as many rings as he does? grant hill made the list 10 years ago, and if they did it today, he may not be on there. Would TMAC make it??????????????????[/b
[b]Would KG make it??? |
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Mixtape_Live
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CrimsonLaker
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| Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Mixtape_Live wrote: | Kobe will make it without a doubt...
i really hope iverson makes it..he deserves to be in there. |
I agree. And your mixes are real tight man. You've got great talent, keep mixing. |
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Wags_16
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:31 am Post subject: |
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| I think he makes it easily. There are a lot of players that he is already better than that are on the top 50 list. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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| DaggerInTheHeart wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: | | Actually, I don't have to "wanna" live in a world where the'll do anything to screw over Kobe. I'm already living in it. How many haters came out when Kobe scored 62 pts in 3 quarters? How many haters came out when he scored 81 pts? Kobe is one of the few athletes who balances upon that fine line between love and hate. It's the reality of the matter. So therefore, I would not be surprised if Kobe doesn't get into that list. |
You do realize Kobe had the 2nd most votes in the All-star and do you know realize the NBA is gonna pick not the fans. |
You say Kobe leads in All-star votes (voting done by fans). Then you say NBA is gunna pick the top 60, so what exactly are you saying? Your 'point' makes no sense. I do believe he will be put on that list, but like others have said it's not a sure thing considering the NBA. |
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DaggerInTheHeart
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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| Charles wrote: | It's an interesting crop of players:
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton
Reggie Miller
Dennis Rodman
Bernard King
Domonique Wilkins
Bob McAdoo
David Thompson
Nate Archibald |
Steve Nash????
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sodapoppenski
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| fansincemagic wrote: | | This seems like a dumb question, but this is the NBA's top 50, plus a new 10 players right? I just hope they don't add more than 10 and bump a player or two. After the Montana/Bradshaw drama, major controversy can start from anything now adays. Kobe has to be on the list. |
I hope they bump a couple, even if it's to add someone from back in the
day (that second part wouldn't ever happen though).
My guess is they leave the 50, add the 10.
But I happened to have disagreed with 2 or 3 selections in their original 50. |
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sodapoppenski
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:45 am Post subject: |
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| GunShot wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: | | I doubt Kobe gets mentioned in the top 60. There's just too much hate going on out there and to acknowledge Kobe as one of the top 60 would go against that grain. However, I do see the NBA placing Lebron into the top 60. That's just the way the NBA works. |
I don't think they would take it that far and exclude him. |
LBJ is in his 3rd year of NBA ball.
I know the NBA's on his jock, but o way do they put him in the "60 Greatest."
They'll have a "70 Greatest" 10 years from now and it's a decent bet LeBron will have his chance then.
Oh and Kobe not only has alot more years to judge a career by, but he's got 3 rings. |
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sodapoppenski
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:46 am Post subject: |
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| Drifts wrote: | | Charles wrote: | It's an interesting crop of players:
Tim Duncan
Kobe Bryant
Allen Iverson
Jason Kidd
Gary Payton
Reggie Miller
Dennis Rodman
Bernard King
Domonique Wilkins
Bob McAdoo
David Thompson
Nate Archibald |
Steve Nash???? |
How many of those players have 3 rings?
How many even have one? 
I like our boy's chances personally. |
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sodapoppenski
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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| Lakers Dynasty 2000 wrote: | Kobe will be in it, don't worry.
He, Reggie Miller, and Tim Duncan are locks imo. |
And a certain Slava Medvedenko....
I mean, hullo?!?!?!? |
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| Most definelty. If he doesn't then i say tnt should be off the air. The whole channel. I mean not just basketball the whole channel itself should go out of bussiness. No more Law and Order bull crap. |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:37 am Post subject: |
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| JD wrote: | | Zhengi wrote: | | Perhaps, but I wouldn't put it past the NBA to leave Kobe off the list. |
Well... let's see... 62 in 3 quarters. 81 in a game. 3 rings...
The NBA loses all credibility if they exclude him.
Not some...
ALL.
You wanna live in a world where you believe they'll do anything to screw over Kobe... go right ahead. They may begrudingly accept he's one of the greats... but they can't avoid him. |
True Dat! Kobe is undeniable. he's the most polarizing figure in the league if not all of sports. He's the best player in the game today. Once he brings our Lakers back to a parade on Figueroa and Chick Hearn Court he will start to receive similar adulation from the media and public at large that Mike J received after his first 3-peat(yeah I said it 3-peat. I mean damn the boys got 3 rings already, and a fourth without Shaq will not only cement his place in history but will prove that Dr. Buss was not shermed out when he traded Shaq. And poor Mitch wouldn't have to put a gun to his head every night a'la Martin Riggs in "Lethal Weapon"). David Stern has a nose for finding (or lucking into) the right players to market for the betterment of the league. Kobe is on the verge of being that player. The saying goes, the more you go through the better story you have to tell, and Mr. 81 has a hell of a story already.
Can you imagine the headline....
LORD OF THE RING
Bryant leads Lakers back to Title
No way D. Stern is missing that boat
Kobe in the top 60?
Yes. Mr. Frodo deserves it.
church! 
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Ofcourse.
Pippen made it in the last one as did Shaq (before he won a ring)
Kobe has 3 rings and has the 2nd highest score ever in the NBA. Highest out of non-bigmen.
It's not about making the cut with Kobe - rather how high on that list he should be. |
I'll be PISSED if LBJ makes it...insolence...
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:04 am Post subject: |
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Kobe should make the NBA,'s 4 greatest players list !!!!
MJ
Magic
Kareem
Kobe |
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | | Quote: | | I say top 5 of all time. AT LEAST (not being biased) |
No. Not yet IMO.
He is approaching top 20 though. |
Top 10...at least. Can you name 20 players better than Kobe in history?
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| Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| Top 10, yes. Top 5, no. Top 2 SG's, yes. Chance to make my Top 5 when he's done, yes. Chance to be the #1 GOAT, no. He's not surpassing Wilt or Magic, those are my top 2 ever. |
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