I don’t trust our FO to make a good hire. Let Luke finish out the season, we mailed it in last offseason.
Why not? The FO you liked hired Mike Brown, Mike D'Antoni, Byron Scott & Luke Walton.
Brown and MDA were good hires, as was Phil who you conveniently ignored.
I ignored Phil because your FO fired him pretty much as Jimbo's first move being in charge of the team - bringing Phil back was a Dr. Buss call. But OK, I will give you Phil part II (Part I was Jerry West). That means your FO also has to own Rudy T.
As for Brown and MDA being good hires . . . we disagree on the definition of good. They went a combined 109-116 and were both run out of town. _________________ On Lakersground, a concern troll is someone who is a fan of another team, but pretends to be a Lakers fan with "concerns".
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:39 pm Post subject:
deal wrote:
How many Polls do we actually need?
Please start a poll asking how many polls we need. Give us a few options like 3, 5, 8, etc. I have a number in mind, but I can't share it without a poll.
Even if the team just goes with an interim guy, firing Luke now helps to create leadership within the team. LeBron would be the guy who needs to step up as the directional leader. Things can’t get much worse. Fire like, name Madden or Shaw as interim and let LeBron assume the top leader position if he has it in him.
Luke's bad coaching has lost a good number of games this season that any decent coach would have won. Team morale is so low right now and his firing alone will bring new life to the team. Seems obvious that unless a miracle finish happens (lakers get to the finals) Luke will be fired at seasons end; so why not get rid of him now and give this team at least a shot of making the playoffs without an obvious hindrance leading the team. If Luke returns as coach after the All Star break then clearly the organization has chosen to tank instead of trying to make the playoffs, just their way of trying not to make so obvious to the genera public.
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Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:09 pm Post subject:
Luke isn't ready. Not saying he won't be a good coach in the future, but he's not right now. Doesn't have a good offensive or defensive basketball mind, nor does he have the control of the locker room.
He's coaching a lot of players he used to play against and they don't respect him. I can't blame them either. Luke was never a good basketball player IMO. How could you really get behind a coach who was a perennial bench warmer as a player? I never really got why he was touted as a "high bball IQ player" ? He's not athletic nor skilled, so he must be a "smart" player?
I don’t think Luke is the problem. If it wasn’t for the injuries we’d still have a high playoff seed and one of the top defenses. It doesn’t help the players know they may all be traded at the end of the season.
Luke isn't ready. Not saying he won't be a good coach in the future, but he's not right now. Doesn't have a good offensive or defensive basketball mind, nor does he have the control of the locker room.
He's coaching a lot of players he used to play against and they don't respect him. I can't blame them either. Luke was never a good basketball player IMO. How could you really get behind a coach who was a perennial bench warmer as a player? I never really got why he was touted as a "high bball IQ player" ? He's not athletic nor skilled, so he must be a "smart" player?
The greatest coach of his generation - 11 rings as coach
He wasn’t more than a bench player
The greatest coach of this generation - Popovic has 5 rings.
He didn’t really play
The coach of the Warriors 3 rings and breaking records. He was a backup shooter who got punched out by MJ in practice
It’s not his career working against Luke
That helps him
It’s his schemes and planning
Coaching an Uber talented Warriors team and a rebuilding Lakers team that added Lebron, different tasks. Pretty much the entire fanbase was on board with the Luke hire. Most of the evaluation coming off coaching the Warriors.
Luke had a sub-par crew and did not care to improve it. It's strange to me. Maybe he wanted to be just like Phil Jackson, growing a crew of his own. It did not work out.
Joined: 12 Dec 2008 Posts: 1477 Location: SFValley
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:11 am Post subject:
wolfpaclaker wrote:
The greatest coach of his generation - 11 rings as coach
He wasn’t more than a bench player
The greatest coach of this generation - Popovic has 5 rings.
He didn’t really play
The coach of the Warriors 3 rings and breaking records. He was a backup shooter who got punched out by MJ in practice
It’s not his career working against Luke
That helps him
It’s his schemes and planning
Coaching an Uber talented Warriors team and a rebuilding Lakers team that added Lebron, different tasks. Pretty much the entire fanbase was on board with the Luke hire. Most of the evaluation coming off coaching the Warriors.
Phil was a coach/assistant coach in other leagues for almost 10 years prior to being a head coach of the Bulls. Plus he had Tex Winter and the triangle offense. Who does Luke have? Mark Madsen?
Again, not saying Luke won't be a good coach in the future, but he sure as hell ain't one right now.
It's clear he's lost this team, and his middle school assistant coaches aren't helping either
If not already, he's very close to it. That's being as gracious as I can possibly be towards him. Right now, he looks like dead man walking. I've seen that look on Riley, even. I've seen it on Pfund. In Luke's case, he's got a superstar who is probably not going to have his back, let's be honest. He's in deeper water than past coaches who have "lost the team".
The greatest coach of his generation - 11 rings as coach
He wasn’t more than a bench player
The greatest coach of this generation - Popovic has 5 rings.
He didn’t really play
The coach of the Warriors 3 rings and breaking records. He was a backup shooter who got punched out by MJ in practice
It’s not his career working against Luke
That helps him
It’s his schemes and planning
Coaching an Uber talented Warriors team and a rebuilding Lakers team that added Lebron, different tasks. Pretty much the entire fanbase was on board with the Luke hire. Most of the evaluation coming off coaching the Warriors.
Phil was a coach/assistant coach in other leagues for almost 10 years prior to being a head coach of the Bulls. Plus he had Tex Winter and the triangle offense. Who does Luke have? Mark Madsen?
Again, not saying Luke won't be a good coach in the future, but he sure as hell ain't one right now.
Luke has Jesse Murmeys and a lack of humility. His dad said the same. When Luke got drafted to the Lakers he was asked who his favorite all time laker was during a game bill was commentator in and luke said that Luke was his favorite all time laker. Nobody thinks higher of Luke than Luke.
Yes the roster has construction flaws but theres no reason why this roster cant be performing better. We've got the best player in the world and a roster that has the potential to perform better than what we have currently seen if having been coached by a better coach.
Problem is there aren't a lot of great options out there. Kidd was pretty crappy as a coach, mark Jackson was ok but as soon as he was replaced his team basically won a championship so theres that.
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