Been saying for a while, AD is the only one left on the team who is still close to his athletic prime, we just have to use him the right way.
Yesterday we caught a tired Nets team on 2nd night of a B2B and also Nets don't have a big physical 5. We need to get AD a lot of action where he's catching the ball mid-range and in.
Sure it slows our offense down, and sure it makes us more predictable. But it utilizes AD (And eventually Lebron) the right way. You can't have a player who is not a good 3 point shooter sitting outside the 3 point line as a faciitator most of the game. He is not greek freak he will not take guys off the dribble there and just power his way to the rim. He's more a guy you want to get on the move, catch the ball mid-range, post ups and find him on off the ball above the rim plays. If you notice the defense is taking the off ball stuff away from him, post him up and let him go to work on smaller 4s or weak 5s. Don't play around with this BS.
Part of it is also that when AD isn't healthy, the team gets used to not relying on him. Lebron's role has shifted. But this year so far AD has been healthy. I've been bummed about the way we used him a lot of the time, but hopefully this will light a fire in AD and Ham to get on the same page on how he should play.
For the season BTW AD's numbers 24.3 ppg 11.2 rpg 1.8 bpg TS 59.4% with a BPM of 4.5, he's the only all-star in LA right now.
All that greatness said about him, cash in if you're smart, Lakers. Someone will give up a lot for AD showing he can still ball. This team is still not winning a ring, and AD having to play like a MVP to win a game at home aginst a tired Nets team (to take us to 3-10) shows us how weak this year's squad is. I apprecaite AD more than most of this board, but I still wish we cash in because this team is not built to win a ring. Get the most longterm assets as possible.
Lakers just do not operate this way Wolf. Go back as long as you want, but we tend to pay for the stars, not trade them out. Shaq was a major exception, but that had to do with his untenable relationship with Kobe. Lakers kept Pau while he declined for example. I highly doubt they will trade out AD this season.
They tried to trade Pau multiple times and he was treated like crap on his way out, under the Jim Buss regime. I disagree about this. They take care of their guards and their legends, yes. I don't think they view AD as such. I agree that so long as Lebron is a Laker, there's no way they trade him without his consent.
AD is a different story. It all depends on what way they view this. There's already been rumblings before the season that some in the FO wanted him moved (or wanted to look at this option). The situation is such that you have a 29 year old star who is a far better player than Rudy Gobert. And while only Minnesota is as dumb to trade that much for Gobert, you may find a team that will give you something for AD that's significant for the longrun.
The hardest thing will be to sell klutch/Lebron on this. It will be like a KCP type of thing, where you have to show Bron/klutch that they are doing it for the team's best course to compete, as you surround him with more younger depth and longterm you added more draft picks. Bron dealt with Kyrie being traded, in his prime. He will eventually adjust.
The main issue is I'm not sure there is an AD trade that the Lakers will want to do, because they may view it as giving up on any title run in the Lebron era, but something's got to give. Even with AD playing like an all-star (he has been this year), Westbrook fitting in with the new coach they selected, the team is 3-10, and the prospects are not too much higher than play ins. Most think they may not even make the play ins, but I still think we can get to 35+ wins and in the play ins (If AD continues to play how he has and Lebron picks it up as I suspect).
The major differences in the Pau/Kobe comparison is this
1) that era had the benefit of havig mediocre/down seasons and drafting players like DLO, Randle. We don't, we've lost our lottery pick last year and if we hit lotto again, lost it again this year.
2) we had depth to trade, we don't with AD/Bron/WB max contracts.
3) we still have more draft picks to give to NOR in the future.
Based on the above 3, I think an AD trade makes tremendous sense, and I would do it ASAP as he's balling this year and showing health. Don't wait till summer, as odds are he's going to lose value each month and moment you wait. This is probably the best he's played/looked in 2 years.
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
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Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:36 pm Post subject:
governator wrote:
GOODRICH25 wrote:
LakerSD wrote:
Quote:
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Why is Klay the starting SG over Butler or Harden? Not even close at this point. _________________ Damian Lillard shatters Dwight Coward's championship dreams:
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Why is Klay the starting SG over Butler or Harden? Not even close at this point.
The NBA is missing a huge opportunity by not putting on a special event to figure out who actually would come out on top. Maybe a side event to the all star game.
Lakers just do not operate this way Wolf. Go back as long as you want, but we tend to pay for the stars, not trade them out. Shaq was a major exception, but that had to do with his untenable relationship with Kobe. Lakers kept Pau while he declined for example. I highly doubt they will trade out AD this season.
I don't think LA has any more aversion to trading stars if it's in our interest than any other team.
We traded Shaq. We traded Gasol for Chris Paul (but the trade was recinded by the NBA).
We traded lots of guys after they had all-star seasons for us: Cedric Ceballos, Norm Nixon, Nick Van Exel, Eddie Jones, Andrew Bynum.
We traded 19 ppg. Adrian Dantley who went on to become a Hall of Famer.
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Lol what is he supposed to say?
“Yeah I don’t think we can beat them“
IMHO the 2 best players in the league are freak and Luka. Those 2 with scrubs probably beats a stacked American team.
would be America's 5. If it expanded out to 12: Zion, Ja, Kawhi, Bam, Mitchell, Jimmy, BI
Don't see how any combo of Euro/Wold players beats that given most their top tier talent are Centers/Bigs.
Id play younger ones instead of Bron and Kawhi. Steph, Booker, Tatum, KD, i guess AD, Ja, Brown, Butler, Zion, Bam. I guess im forgetting some guys _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
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Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Lol what is he supposed to say?
“Yeah I don’t think we can beat them“
Lol, true, still, at a whole, it’s US vs the world not just Europe and even that, we still have the advantage
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Lol what is he supposed to say?
“Yeah I don’t think we can beat them“
Lol, true, still, at a whole, it’s US vs the world not just Europe and even that, we still have the advantage
Umm no we don’t. Considering they have 4/5 top 5 players in the game the US don’t stand a (bleep) chance.
Luka Giannis Jokic Embiid are and should be in every top 5. They also happen to be on the same team. I don’t care if Smush Parker is playing point on that team they’d probably score 200 points on the US.
Also in what world is Bron even on team USA? Lmao. And the lack of KD mentions is hysterical.
Giannis gives his starting 5 for best international players and best American players:
International:
PG - Luka, SG - Fournier
SF - Giannis, PF - Jokic, C - Embiid
USA:
PG - Steph - SG - Klay
SF - LeBron, PF - Durant, C - Bam
“We beat them”
(Via How Hungry Are You?)
When Giannis puts Bam ahead of you
Davis has to earn respect from his peers again.
He got Klay and 63 year old Lebron tho. If he doesn't pick the best team then ofcourse he thinks they win
Yea, Freak need to slow his role with this international crew, when ur best SG is man bun. We still got Ja, Tatum, Brown, Zion, Brow, Jimmy, Lavine, BI, etc etc etc, FOH with that crap
Lol what is he supposed to say?
“Yeah I don’t think we can beat them“
Lol, true, still, at a whole, it’s US vs the world not just Europe and even that, we still have the advantage
Umm no we don’t. Considering they have 4/5 top 5 players in the game the US don’t stand a (bleep) chance.
Luka Giannis Jokic Embiid are and should be in every top 5. They also happen to be on the same team. I don’t care if Smush Parker is playing point on that team they’d probably score 200 points on the US.
Also in what world is Bron even on team USA? Lmao. And the lack of KD mentions is hysterical.
the US team would have a lot of trouble with the old Yugoslavia. which would include Jokic, Luka, Zubac, Bogsx2 and a bunch of shooters. the luka and Jokic PnR would kill every team.
37 point game followed by 38.
39 coming next
Hopefully the thread is quiet for the next few days.
If only this thread was active to praise Davis as it is to talk bad about him.
That's why people say nobody hates their own players more than Lakers fans. Look at how badly they've been taking AD for granted. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxMBYm3wwxk
AD coming up big with our back against the wall. "Weak" opponent, granted, but still a great performance. Wish they set him up for 40 at the end _________________ 48 49 50 52 53 54 72 80 82
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