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epak Retired Number
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LandsbergerRules Franchise Player
Joined: 29 Aug 2004 Posts: 11197 Location: The Other Perspective
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 3:00 am Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | If the Ball family wants to continue to be associated with the Lakers - then Zo needs to frickin' improve his shooting percentage, period end of story, the Lakers are not a Charity supporting poor shooters!
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_________________ "Chick lived and breathed Lakers basketball…but he was also fair and objective and called every game the way it was played."
-from Chick: His Unpublished Memoirs and the Memories of Those Who Knew Him |
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drae Franchise Player
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Calling Ingram and Kuz raggedy without Lonzo is probably a step too far by Lavar. That hurts his sons relationship with his teammates, as well as his coach, as well as Magic. It may or may not be the truth, but Lonzo has to play with these guys. |
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scooterp10 Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 4:09 am Post subject: |
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unleasHell wrote: | If the Ball family wants to continue to be associated with the Lakers - then Zo needs to frickin' improve his shooting percentage, period end of story, the Lakers are not a Charity supporting poor shooters!
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He’s already doing that. In fact he was one of our best 3 point shooters during the stretch of games he played when was LeBron out. There is so much more to the game then just shooting though. Do the Lakers support poor defense and turnovers as long as you can shoot? |
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governator Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:54 am Post subject: |
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drae wrote: | Calling Ingram and Kuz raggedy without Lonzo is probably a step too far by Lavar. That hurts his sons relationship with his teammates, as well as his coach, as well as Magic. It may or may not be the truth, but Lonzo has to play with these guys. |
Nah, that’s his dad, not Lonzo. Same with Muscala. |
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Sago Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I mean he’s right.... he can come back May and it’s after the all star break. |
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MJST Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 6:18 am Post subject: |
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PengShow wrote: | All Lonzo needs to do is distance himself from what his father was saying in his TV parade. |
Lonzo's already said countless times what his father says is what his father says and that it's his thing.
Doesn't stop people from constantly acting like they have the right to tell Lonzo what or act like they are the authority on what he should do with his father. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Halflife Franchise Player
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“We ain’t goin nowhere, we can’t be stopped...” |
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kfkilla Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:11 am Post subject: |
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MJST wrote: | PengShow wrote: | All Lonzo needs to do is distance himself from what his father was saying in his TV parade. |
Lonzo's already said countless times what his father says is what his father says and that it's his thing.
Doesn't stop people from constantly acting like they have the right to tell Lonzo what or act like they are the authority on what he should do with his father. |
People act like Lonzo can control what his father or anyone else does. It doesn’t work that way with the people you love. Lavar doesn’t work for Lonzo, he gave him life. Lonzo ain’t gonna write him up and fire him if he doesn’t shape up. I actually like Lavar. He out of everyone is looking out for his son. Everyone else is looking to use his son for profit. |
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Halflife Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:28 am Post subject: |
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kfkilla wrote: | MJST wrote: | PengShow wrote: | All Lonzo needs to do is distance himself from what his father was saying in his TV parade. |
Lonzo's already said countless times what his father says is what his father says and that it's his thing.
Doesn't stop people from constantly acting like they have the right to tell Lonzo what or act like they are the authority on what he should do with his father. |
People act like Lonzo can control what his father or anyone else does. It doesn’t work that way with the people you love. Lavar doesn’t work for Lonzo, he gave him life. Lonzo ain’t gonna write him up and fire him if he doesn’t shape up. I actually like Lavar. He out of everyone is looking out for his son. Everyone else is looking to use his son for profit. |
He can remove himself from show. |
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h2omike Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 9:11 am Post subject: |
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Aside from shooting the rock, Ball is a good player.
But shooting is a very important skill he needs to develop. |
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lakersboy Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:21 am Post subject: |
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'01 Fisher returned from injury and was a lights out shooter in the post season.
'08 Ariza returned from injury with greatly improved shooting that Phil didn't play until next season.
'18 Lonzo already improved somewhat coming off a knee injury, which no doubt, limited his ability to begin to practice shooting.
'19...I have complete confidence that because of limited motion, most of his practice will be limited to shooting, and he will return even better than we've seen.
Improvements are a process for young players with any sense of desire. Critics micromanage the process/their growth from game to game, or even week to week, making it seem like it isn't happening. If you don't see a kid for a week, you don't notice he's taller, but after the summer, you notice it.
His recovery will allow him to stand and walk first, but limits lateral mobility and stability. He's probably getting a ton of shots up each day and should surprise the critics who keep saying what he better do, or else... |
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epak Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:51 am Post subject: |
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Sago wrote: |
I mean he’s right.... he can come back May and it’s after the all star break. |
I'm busting bgh's chops.
Broderick reported this. Not Brad |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:01 am Post subject: |
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Lavar is so toxic to this kid. Last time I checked Lonzo was a grown azz man? Why does his father feel the need to hog his son's spotlight? |
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24Legend007 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 11:05 am Post subject: |
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LuciusAllen wrote: | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | CandyCanes wrote: | Intlakeshow wrote: | yinoma2001 wrote: | I can't wait until he's back. |
No kidding, watching Rondo play defense is so frustrating, dude puts zero effort on that end. |
What’s strange about that is that Rondo used to be a lockdown defender. |
Lots of guys were good defenders at 25. These days, Rondo can still do it in bursts, but he can’t sustain it. |
Certainly he'll do it in longish spurts in the playoffs. The question is whether he'll do it enough during the regular season so we can actually reach the playoffs. |
Can't put this all on Rondo. It was suppose to be a joint effort, and neither him or Lonzo has kept their part of the bargains. |
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AQuestSupreme Sixth Man
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I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
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Swagron Starting Rotation
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:10 pm Post subject: |
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AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
Trade Ball. |
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Aeneas Hunter Retired Number
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:12 pm Post subject: |
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AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
I would assume that Ball would be gone in that scenario. That’s likely true if we sign Kemba Walker, too. |
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Darth Los Angeles Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Zo is a Laker for Life.
Kyrie and Zo will play the "Guard Roles".
The crazy thing about Lavar is that he's right about everything he says. _________________ “There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you. A man must constantly exceed his level.” ―Bruce Lee |
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AQuestSupreme Sixth Man
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Aeneas Hunter wrote: | AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
I would assume that Ball would be gone in that scenario. That’s likely true if we sign Kemba Walker, too. |
Kyrie is a FA, so Lonzo doesn't HAVE to go. |
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markjay Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
Lonzo and Kuzma are my favorite players, and they are a great pair together. I’m hoping they can find a way to keep Lonzo, no matter who they acquire. But,if he gets traded, that's life.
I also really liked Zubac... sigh |
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LakersForever123 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Swagron wrote: | AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
Trade Ball. |
For a top 10 pick in the 2019 NBA Draft |
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Lakerfan 4 Life Franchise Player
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Swagron wrote: | AQuestSupreme wrote: | I'm curious to know this from Lakers fans:
If Magic wanted to bring in Kyrie, how would you all, as Lonzo fans, knowing he is young still, feel about that? If Kyrie comes over, you have Lebron and Kyrie having the ball in his hands, so that would put Lonzo in a very bad place. |
Trade Ball. |
Don't need to trade Zo. Have him play SG. Or trade if the Lakers bring ing Kyrie and a SG like Klay. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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It would be great if he is ready to come back after all star break. Initial dx is 4-6 weeks. He was injured on 1/20 and first game back from AS break is 2/21. That's almost 5 weeks. _________________ Nobody in the NBA can touch the Laker brand, which, like the uniform color, is pure gold. |
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Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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epak wrote: | Sago wrote: |
I mean he’s right.... he can come back May and it’s after the all star break. |
I'm busting bgh's chops.
Broderick reported this. Not Brad |
sources from...umm Antarctica claim it’s actually Brian turner! or was it bob?! personally I think it’s definitely bobo turner...just has to be! |
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