Prob still has 2 FRPs and MLE? _________________ “The main goal for the Lakers is to win a championship. All I care about, all we care about, is to raise another banner in the rafters.“
giddey got benched cause he couldnt hit jumpers. if we are going to be depended on Giddey/Gabe to make jumpers its going to be a long season
All these attempts at making a 'non-third superstar' roster, just goes to show how valuable DLO and Reaves are for us. Without the both of them it all falls to heck. _________________ How NBA 2K18 failed the All-Time Lakers:
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Yeah, they have to move him because they have too much invested in Mobley's future, and Mobley is a natural 5, as you saw in the playoffs, where he flourished.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 12:59 pm Post subject:
logical24 wrote:
Rui/JHS/1st for Allen?
DLO
Reaves
LeBron
AD
Allen
Its a start
I think most of us would sign off on that. But I think the Cavs might require 2 FRP for Allen, as he has 2 years left of team control. I mean, he's a pretty damn good player. But if you could get away with 1 FRP, a recent FRP in JHS, and maybe a throw-in or 2 like SRP's, a pick swap, Max Lewis, something like that, then maybe they go for it.
And though I like Allen a lot, I do question the offensive fit of having AD and Allen next to each other. Neither space the floor. Perhaps a different center would be a better target, but our defense would likely be very good.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:12 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
If we go into next season with Dlo as our Pg we are not a serious team. Or at least less serious than we have been
Would you at least agree that we should retain him if for no other reason than to trade him after Dec. 15? That's about a $20MM salary slot that we have no way to replace if he just walks. At least use that salary to do something different. It's a loss if he walks, and it's just that simple.
If we go into next season with Dlo as our Pg we are not a serious team. Or at least less serious than we have been
Would you at least agree that we should retain him if for no other reason than to trade him after Dec. 15? That's about a $20MM salary slot that we have no way to replace if he just walks. At least use that salary to do something different. It's a loss if he walks, and it's just that simple.
Exactly. This FO needs to stop losing talent for nothing. Terrible asset management.
If we go into next season with Dlo as our Pg we are not a serious team. Or at least less serious than we have been
Would you at least agree that we should retain him if for no other reason than to trade him after Dec. 15? That's about a $20MM salary slot that we have no way to replace if he just walks. At least use that salary to do something different. It's a loss if he walks, and it's just that simple.
It’s an 🗑️ take. Dlo opts out, who u going to replace with? Gabe Vincent? Or some scrub off the street? We have no cap space to sign anyone decent
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:31 pm Post subject:
Bron2AD wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
Halflife wrote:
If we go into next season with Dlo as our Pg we are not a serious team. Or at least less serious than we have been
Would you at least agree that we should retain him if for no other reason than to trade him after Dec. 15? That's about a $20MM salary slot that we have no way to replace if he just walks. At least use that salary to do something different. It's a loss if he walks, and it's just that simple.
It’s an 🗑️ take. Dlo opts out, who u going to replace with? Gabe Vincent? Or some scrub off the street? We have no cap space to sign anyone decent
Yup. Not calling out anyone in particular here, but just wondering if some don't quite understand the salary cap gymnastics at play. It's not like we can let D'lo walk and then, say, sign De'Anthony Melton for less money and think we're coming out ahead. These players just aren't available to us in free agency. In general, you're talking about 7th-10th guys in rotations for less than the MLE, and that's at best.
If we go into next season with Dlo as our Pg we are not a serious team. Or at least less serious than we have been
Would you at least agree that we should retain him if for no other reason than to trade him after Dec. 15? That's about a $20MM salary slot that we have no way to replace if he just walks. At least use that salary to do something different. It's a loss if he walks, and it's just that simple.
If we start camp with him we aren’t serious. If the idea is to trade him at a later date, and it’s obvious, I can’t imagine that does anyone any good. Our goal needs to be have our team figured out for a rookie coach like JJ and remove any added variables. Start as fresh as we can. IMHO. Dlo doesn’t start for any playoff team in the west outside of ours. That’s a problem. _________________ Kobe.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 1:50 pm Post subject:
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I get it that people aren't happy that he cools down in the playoffs, but he is coming off a strong season. He's not making massive money. He's been very useful to us in the regular season since we re-acquired him and, honestly, he's had playoff moments as well. Not against Denver, unfortunately. But yeah, it's not like bringing him into camp would be a distraction. He's not a cancer, his teammates like him, and he's played pretty well in the regular season for us. In fact, you could argue that if we obtained a strong defensive guard next to him (Mitchell? Caruso?) that his fit would be even better than it was last year. It's just bad management to lose him for nothing. It almost forces you to have to trade for a viable point guard, so now you're losing assets and hell, what if it's Garland you're trading for...he wasn't even as good as D'lo was last season and he's making about twice as much. Trae? Sure, he's better, but not out of this world better, and he's making roughly $25MM more, which means you have to trade away at least 3 rotation players just to get him. So if D'lo walks and you do that, now you've subtracted 4 rotation players in getting Trae, which would be a complete and utter franchise-killer. Hand the reins to Vincent? That's a very iffy proposition.
Bottom line, we just can't let him walk for absolutely nothing.
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I get it that people aren't happy that he cools down in the playoffs, but he is coming off a strong season. He's not making massive money. He's been very useful to us in the regular season since we re-acquired him and, honestly, he's had playoff moments as well. Not against Denver, unfortunately. But yeah, it's not like bringing him into camp would be a distraction. He's not a cancer, his teammates like him, and he's played pretty well in the regular season for us. In fact, you could argue that if we obtained a strong defensive guard next to him (Mitchell? Caruso?) that his fit would be even better than it was last year. It's just bad management to lose him for nothing. It almost forces you to have to trade for a viable point guard, so now you're losing assets and hell, what if it's Garland you're trading for...he wasn't even as good as D'lo was last season and he's making about twice as much. Hand the reins to Vincent? That's a very iffy proposition. We just can't let him walk for absolutely nothing.
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Posted: Tue May 21, 2024 2:11 pm Post subject:
Halflife wrote:
ChickenStu wrote:
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I get it that people aren't happy that he cools down in the playoffs, but he is coming off a strong season. He's not making massive money. He's been very useful to us in the regular season since we re-acquired him and, honestly, he's had playoff moments as well. Not against Denver, unfortunately. But yeah, it's not like bringing him into camp would be a distraction. He's not a cancer, his teammates like him, and he's played pretty well in the regular season for us. In fact, you could argue that if we obtained a strong defensive guard next to him (Mitchell? Caruso?) that his fit would be even better than it was last year. It's just bad management to lose him for nothing. It almost forces you to have to trade for a viable point guard, so now you're losing assets and hell, what if it's Garland you're trading for...he wasn't even as good as D'lo was last season and he's making about twice as much. Hand the reins to Vincent? That's a very iffy proposition. We just can't let him walk for absolutely nothing.
Bring him off the bench. Outside of AD and bron who on our starting roster starts for any other playoff team. In the west.
Giddey was quickly played off the court in OKC's 2 playoff series, and I would take D'lo or Reaves over him if you eliminate contract value.
I think the Clippers start Powell, right? He didn't have as good of a year as Russell or Reaves.
Dallas starts Derrick Jones Jr.
I've said this before, but with merely average coaching, this team should have been the #4 seed in the West. It's not a perfect roster and there were flaws, but the team was actually pretty decent when the right players were playing. Which is why I understand the logic of those who prefer not to trade for Mitchell (even though his salary isn't exorbitant) but prefer a move to strengthen us on the margins, such as a move for Caruso and a center like Allen, Vuc, or Wendell Carter Jr.
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I get it that people aren't happy that he cools down in the playoffs, but he is coming off a strong season. He's not making massive money. He's been very useful to us in the regular season since we re-acquired him and, honestly, he's had playoff moments as well. Not against Denver, unfortunately. But yeah, it's not like bringing him into camp would be a distraction. He's not a cancer, his teammates like him, and he's played pretty well in the regular season for us. In fact, you could argue that if we obtained a strong defensive guard next to him (Mitchell? Caruso?) that his fit would be even better than it was last year. It's just bad management to lose him for nothing. It almost forces you to have to trade for a viable point guard, so now you're losing assets and hell, what if it's Garland you're trading for...he wasn't even as good as D'lo was last season and he's making about twice as much. Hand the reins to Vincent? That's a very iffy proposition. We just can't let him walk for absolutely nothing.
Bring him off the bench. Outside of AD and bron who on our starting roster starts for any other playoff team. In the west.
Giddey was quickly played off the court in OKC's 2 playoff series, and I would take D'lo or Reaves over him if you eliminate contract value.
I think the Clippers start Powell, right? He didn't have as good of a year as Russell or Reaves.
Dallas starts Derrick Jones Jr.
I've said this before, but with merely average coaching, this team should have been the #4 seed in the West. It's not a perfect roster and there were flaws, but the team was actually pretty decent when the right players were playing. Which is why I understand the logic of those who prefer not to trade for Mitchell (even though his salary isn't exorbitant) but prefer a move to strengthen us on the margins, such as a move for Caruso and a center like Allen, Vuc, or Wendell Carter Jr.
I get we are supposed to be bias but this team outside of bubble hasn’t sniffed 4th seed. We can would have should have could have this team to death. Dlo is not starting for OKC, he’s not starting for the mavs or the clippers. Every team had a shot at him. No takers. Except us. We need talent to elevate others. We need a leader at Pg. dlo is the opposite of that. _________________ Kobe.
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Yeah, they have to move him because they have too much invested in Mobley's future, and Mobley is a natural 5, as you saw in the playoffs, where he flourished.
It’s hilarious that this is the same reason Brooklyn traded Jarrett Allen and kept the much cheaper Nic Claxton.
Yeah, they have to move him because they have too much invested in Mobley's future, and Mobley is a natural 5, as you saw in the playoffs, where he flourished.
It’s hilarious that this is the same reason Brooklyn traded Jarrett Allen and kept the much cheaper Nic Claxton.
He finished 14th in the DPOY vote, so he would've been Third Team if they had that. As I said, I worry about offense if you played him next to AD, but that defense could be incredible and you don't necessarily have to close with Allen.
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