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| adkindo wrote: | Buccaneers release CB Vernon Hargreaves after benching
| Quote: | | Two days after he was benched for what coach Bruce Arians deemed lack of hustle, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers released starting cornerback Vernon Hargreaves Tuesday morning. |
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seems extreme, but Hargreaves was always a poor draft choice. I assume this is more about cap savings than anything else. |
Hargreaves has a poison pill of sorts. The fifth year option on most first rounders is prohibitively expensive, and is triggered in the event of injury.
He'll clear waivers, and probably sign with someone like KC. |
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ChickenStu
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He clearly calls heads IMO. Let's say that he had said tails. When the referee says "heads", he would have had some sort of a reaction. Smith and even Richard Sherman have no reaction whatsoever. |
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| angrypuppy wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | Buccaneers release CB Vernon Hargreaves after benching
| Quote: | | Two days after he was benched for what coach Bruce Arians deemed lack of hustle, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers released starting cornerback Vernon Hargreaves Tuesday morning. |
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seems extreme, but Hargreaves was always a poor draft choice. I assume this is more about cap savings than anything else. |
Hargreaves has a poison pill of sorts. The fifth year option on most first rounders is prohibitively expensive, and is triggered in the event of injury.
He'll clear waivers, and probably sign with someone like KC. |
It would make sense for Miami to claim him. I know they don't have the #1 waiver priority anymore, but they should probably take a look at a former first round draft pick. Costs them nothing, really. |
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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/11/12/nfl-moves-packers-49ers-to-sunday-night-football/
| Quote: | NFL moves Packers-49ers to Sunday Night Football in Week 12
The Seahawks beat the 49ers on Monday. On Tuesday, the 49ers settled the score. Sort of.
The Week 12 games between Seattle and Philadelphia has been bumped out of primetime for Packers-49ers. The showdown between Green Bay and San Francisco will be played on Sunday Night Football.
The game between the 8-2 Packers and 8-1 49ers was due to be played at 4:25 p.m. ET, at the same time the Cowboys and the Patriots play at Gillette Stadium.
With Seahawks-Eagles moved out of primetime, donât be surprised if it slides all the way to 1:00 p.m. ET, giving the NFL compelling games in each of the three Sunday windows.
It will be Green Bayâs first California game since a sluggish loss to the Chargers, one that caused quarterback Aaron Rodgers to publicly complain about the things done by players in the 48 hours prior to the game. This time around, the Packers likely will be more dialed in, given the postseason implications of what could be one of the best games of the year.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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| The Texans are the team to claim Hargreaves. I guess it makes some sense, given how depleted their secondary is. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Who is your MVP right now? Lamar? Wilson? Mahomes? CMC? |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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| loslakersss wrote: | | Who is your MVP right now? Lamar? Wilson? Mahomes? CMC? |
I'm going with Russell Wilson, with Lamar just behind him. |
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| Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ^^^I agree that Wilson is likely in the lead right now. |
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| Myles Garrett's season should be over.....and if I am the Steelers, I would seek to end his career the next time they share the field. |
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| Crazy ending to the Thursday night game. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | Myles Garrett's season should be over.....and if I am the Steelers, I would seek to end his career the next time they share the field. |
Steelers players were giving him the ol' beatdown after that. |
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| lakersken80 wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Myles Garrett's season should be over.....and if I am the Steelers, I would seek to end his career the next time they share the field. |
Steelers players were giving him the ol' beatdown after that. |
I recall a kid did that in a high school game that I played in....he was expelled, banned from high school football and actually charged with a crime. It is just one of those rules that you do not do on a field. |
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| Can't say I blame the Steelers players for their reaction....their job is to protect their QB. |
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| Not to excuse it, but Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off first. |
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| ringfinger wrote: | | Not to excuse it, but Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off first. |
eh, he grabbed the back of it while they were having words because Garrett took him the the ground and held him a little long....anyway, pulling the helmet off is not why Garrett will get a serious suspension, it will be because he used it as a weapon on an unprotected player and made contact. It is bush league to even swing on a player without a helmet if you are wearing a helmet....it is a whole different level to try to bash someones skull with a helmet. |
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| adkindo wrote: | | lakersken80 wrote: | | adkindo wrote: | | Myles Garrett's season should be over.....and if I am the Steelers, I would seek to end his career the next time they share the field. |
Steelers players were giving him the ol' beatdown after that. |
I recall a kid did that in a high school game that I played in....he was expelled, banned from high school football and actually charged with a crime. It is just one of those rules that you do not do on a field. |
As it should be. Garrett should be charged with assault.
If Garrett had totally connected with that helmet, Rudolph's life could be over.
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| adkindo wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Not to excuse it, but Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off first. |
eh, he grabbed the back of it while they were having words because Garrett took him the the ground and held him a little long....anyway, pulling the helmet off is not why Garrett will get a serious suspension, it will be because he used it as a weapon on an unprotected player and made contact. It is bush league to even swing on a player without a helmet if you are wearing a helmet....it is a whole different level to try to bash someones skull with a helmet. |
The first thing I thought was Rudolph is just coming off a serious concussion and Garrett hits him in the head with a 5lb helmet.
Suspension without pay for the remainder of the season.
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| adkindo wrote: | | ringfinger wrote: | | Not to excuse it, but Rudolph tried to rip his helmet off first. |
eh, he grabbed the back of it while they were having words because Garrett took him the the ground and held him a little long....anyway, pulling the helmet off is not why Garrett will get a serious suspension, it will be because he used it as a weapon on an unprotected player and made contact. It is bush league to even swing on a player without a helmet if you are wearing a helmet....it is a whole different level to try to bash someones skull with a helmet. |
Yup. Totally agree.
But I have seen multiple angles and itâs clear Rudolph tried to pull his helmet off initially. Doesnât excuse anything that happened after though. |
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I've never seen anything like that in NFL football. So beyond the pale. Yeah, Rudolph may have committed what amounts to a personal foul penalty, and both guys were scuffling after the sack. Had nothing else happened, it most likely just ends up as offsetting personal foul penalties. Ho-hum, nothing to see here. I gasped when he brandished the helmet and swung down at his head. I got visions of old clips of Juan Marichal going after John Roseboro with a bat. Just dangerous, dangerous stuff.
He has to get suspended for the rest of the year, with the possibility for longer. The NFL should announce he's out for the year and that they may even levy additional discipline into next season. He would be charged with assault if this happened in a parking lot, let's just say, after a game. |
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As a Steelers fan I think they should suspend Mason Rudolph for the rest of the season for his role in the incident. Please.
For the love of god.
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So lucky that didn't end worse. Imagine if he'd connected on Rudolph's head with full force, that could have been terrible.
Pretty egregious behaviour from Garrett, he's gonna get a big suspension for that.
Lot of borderline dirty play in that game, but this is just beyond anything anyone could've imagined. What a fool...
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Yeah. The first time I saw it, it was a slo mo clip and I thought, damn that wasnât nice.
Then I watched it in real time. Omg. He swung that helmet so hard he could easily have cracked Rudolphâs skull with it.
Iâm still confused as to why he was that mad. They were winning the game, it was all but over. |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | He would be charged with assault if this happened in a parking lot, let's just say, after a game. |
as I said above, in a high school game a kid on my team was actually charged. If I recall, he was diverted into some juvenile program to eliminate charges....but he was charged. Also, he was an underclassman, and was banned by FHSAA for the remainder of his eligible years.
One slight difference besides it being high school and professional was the high school incident was premeditated. Something happened during the game and he (defensive lineman) did it during the post game lineup and hand shake. I do not even think he made contact with the other kid, but it started a massive brawl. We had a handful of other players suspended for like a game for fighting, but we were shocked when dude got hit with a criminal charge. His parents had to drive him somewhere to get booked (?) and then he was immediately released back to them.
The reason I recall it so well is the whole thing stole my spotlight. I had just intercepted a pass to basically seal the win in a conference game and we did not win many conference games when I was in high school. So i was over on the bench near the cheerleaders looking my coolest soaking up the attention from teammates, cheerleaders and people in the stands. It was one reason I was not involved because when they started the handshake line, I was still on the sideline squeezing the last bit of praise I could from people in the stands. Normally, we would have went out after the game and I would have got tons of attention....got nice coverage in the Orlando paper over the weekend, and a ton of pats on the back when returning to school Monday morning.....but none of that happened because it was all about the brawl, questions about our season getting canceled, the police investigation, etc. It should have been all about my heroic pick to seal the win!  |
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Rudolphâs agent suggesting they may look at bringing charges...
| Quote: | | "There are many risks an NFL QB assumes with every snap taken on the field," Rudolph's agent, Tim Younger, tweeted in the aftermath of Garrett's attack. "Being hit on your uncovered head by a helmet being swung by a 275 lb DE is not one of them." He added that the matter will be reviewed "thoroughly." |
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001076964/article/rudolphs-agent-weighs-in-on-myles-garretts-actions |
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