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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:22 am    Post subject:

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Unless Chiefs has major injuries they will repeat next year. Only way to stop them is if you have an elite qb who is on rookie contract so that you can load your team up as Bengals did even with them its not just Burrow, Chase and others were also at on rookie deals.


Mahomes already said that three peating would be legendary. He is on a mission and no one is stopping him and KC next season. I don't think the Niners are making the SB next season since losing teams rarely make it back to the big dance.


Technically it can be argued the Packers 3peated the SB. They won three straight titles from 1965-67, the last two of which became known as Super Bowls I and II.


No, it can't. In '66 & '67, they won the NFL Championship, then beat the AFL Champions in the Superbowl. In 1965, they won the NFL Championship, but did not play the AFL Champion Buffalo Bills.

By 1965, the AFL was just as good as the NFL (by design, AFL owners were richer, so they absorbed losses and outbid the NFL for players), which is why the NFL had Tex Schramm secretly contact Lamar Hunt to initiate merger talks.


I'll rephrase. Because it birthed the Super Bowl Technically it can be argued the Packers 3peated the SB. It was the beginning of SBs.


I don't get your logic. They didn't play the champion of the league that had the Bills, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Jets, Oilers, Patriots & Raiders. That's like saying the Dodgers won back2back World Series in 2018-2019 because they won the NL Pennant both years.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:12 am    Post subject:

Mahomes at 28 vs Kobe at 28… similar
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:07 pm    Post subject:

Steve Wilks fired as 49ers DC.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:53 pm    Post subject:

Several people shot at Chiefs' Super Bowl parade.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:09 pm    Post subject:

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Steve Wilks fired as 49ers DC.


Will the Niners try to bring Belichick as their new DC? He would definitely help with the defense and if Shanahan falters again, Bill can step over as their HC. Win win situation for San Francisco.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:10 pm    Post subject:

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This was by far the most painful of the 49ers' three Super Bowl losses. You almost have to start to wonder if it will take on a life of its own the next time they get there or are in the NFC Championship Game.


Now let's hope the Lakers and Dodgers can win it all this year to ease the pain
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:18 pm    Post subject:

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Several people shot at Chiefs' Super Bowl parade.


That is crazy. Heard some of the fans helped the police catch two persons involved in the shooting.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 4:54 pm    Post subject:

A mass shooting at a Super Bowl parade is the definition of Americana in 2024.
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A mass shooting at a Super Bowl parade is the definition of Americana in 2024.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 8:17 pm    Post subject:

Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 9:28 pm    Post subject:

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Unless Chiefs has major injuries they will repeat next year. Only way to stop them is if you have an elite qb who is on rookie contract so that you can load your team up as Bengals did even with them its not just Burrow, Chase and others were also at on rookie deals.


Mahomes already said that three peating would be legendary. He is on a mission and no one is stopping him and KC next season. I don't think the Niners are making the SB next season since losing teams rarely make it back to the big dance.


Technically it can be argued the Packers 3peated the SB. They won three straight titles from 1965-67, the last two of which became known as Super Bowls I and II.


No, it can't. In '66 & '67, they won the NFL Championship, then beat the AFL Champions in the Superbowl. In 1965, they won the NFL Championship, but did not play the AFL Champion Buffalo Bills.

By 1965, the AFL was just as good as the NFL (by design, AFL owners were richer, so they absorbed losses and outbid the NFL for players), which is why the NFL had Tex Schramm secretly contact Lamar Hunt to initiate merger talks.


I'll rephrase. Because it birthed the Super Bowl Technically it can be argued the Packers 3peated the SB. It was the beginning of SBs.


I don't get your logic. They didn't play the champion of the league that had the Bills, Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Jets, Oilers, Patriots & Raiders. That's like saying the Dodgers won back2back World Series in 2018-2019 because they won the NL Pennant both years.


I misread this quote.
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In the NFL, no team in the Super Bowl era has three-peated … technically. The Green Bay Packers won the last NFL Championship game in 1965 and the first two Super Bowls in 1966 and 1967


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:27 pm    Post subject:

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Unless Chiefs has major injuries they will repeat next year. Only way to stop them is if you have an elite qb who is on rookie contract so that you can load your team up as Bengals did even with them its not just Burrow, Chase and others were also at on rookie deals.

The Bills are bringing back most of their team next year, (should have been a Pro bowler) Matt Milano too...they always beat the Chiefs in the regular season, and it took luck on the chiefs side to barely win 2 straight playoff wins against us...Plus add in the Bills want vengeance against these bums
I'm taking Bills to knock em out next year.
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Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.


If I'm reading it right that's not entirely correct.

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* Permit to Carry Handguns Note: No permit is necessary to carry a concealed handgun if the person is at least 19 years of age or eighteen years of age and a member of the United States Armed Forces, or honorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 2:34 pm    Post subject:

jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.


If I'm reading it right that's not entirely correct.

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* Permit to Carry Handguns Note: No permit is necessary to carry a concealed handgun if the person is at least 19 years of age or eighteen years of age and a member of the United States Armed Forces, or honorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm.


The "or" is the important part. It is saying that the ability to concealed carry can go down from 19 to 18 if that 18 year old is in the military or honorably discharged.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 3:36 pm    Post subject:

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This was by far the most painful of the 49ers' three Super Bowl losses. You almost have to start to wonder if it will take on a life of its own the next time they get there or are in the NFC Championship Game.


Now let's hope the Lakers and Dodgers can win it all this year to ease the pain [/quote

You mean the Warriors and Giants? Cuz Fck the Niners
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 4:19 pm    Post subject:

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This was by far the most painful of the 49ers' three Super Bowl losses. You almost have to start to wonder if it will take on a life of its own the next time they get there or are in the NFC Championship Game.


Now let's hope the Lakers and Dodgers can win it all this year to ease the pain [/quote

You mean the Warriors and Giants? Cuz Fck the Niners
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exactly
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 5:22 pm    Post subject:

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Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.


If I'm reading it right that's not entirely correct.

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* Permit to Carry Handguns Note: No permit is necessary to carry a concealed handgun if the person is at least 19 years of age or eighteen years of age and a member of the United States Armed Forces, or honorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm.


The "or" is the important part. It is saying that the ability to concealed carry can go down from 19 to 18 if that 18 year old is in the military or honorably discharged.


Gotcha. Using or as a conjunction offers clarification. Thank you for pointing it out. 👌🏾 👍🏾

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jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
jodeke wrote:
DaMuleRules wrote:
Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.


If I'm reading it right that's not entirely correct.

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* Permit to Carry Handguns Note: No permit is necessary to carry a concealed handgun if the person is at least 19 years of age or eighteen years of age and a member of the United States Armed Forces, or honorably discharged from the United States Armed Forces, and is not otherwise prohibited from carrying a firearm.


The "or" is the important part. It is saying that the ability to concealed carry can go down from 19 to 18 if that 18 year old is in the military or honorably discharged.


Gotcha. Using or as a conjunction offers me clarification. Thank you for pointing it out. 👌🏾 👍🏾


It’s a poorly written provision, so I understand the misread.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:33 pm    Post subject:

eddiejonze wrote:
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Unless Chiefs has major injuries they will repeat next year. Only way to stop them is if you have an elite qb who is on rookie contract so that you can load your team up as Bengals did even with them its not just Burrow, Chase and others were also at on rookie deals.

The Bills are bringing back most of their team next year, (should have been a Pro bowler) Matt Milano too...they always beat the Chiefs in the regular season, and it took luck on the chiefs side to barely win 2 straight playoff wins against us...Plus add in the Bills want vengeance against these bums
I'm taking Bills to knock em out next year.


They need to fix whatever happened with Diggs & Allen, first. They may have to part ways with Stefon.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:42 pm    Post subject:

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Unless Chiefs has major injuries they will repeat next year. Only way to stop them is if you have an elite qb who is on rookie contract so that you can load your team up as Bengals did even with them its not just Burrow, Chase and others were also at on rookie deals.

The Bills are bringing back most of their team next year, (should have been a Pro bowler) Matt Milano too...they always beat the Chiefs in the regular season, and it took luck on the chiefs side to barely win 2 straight playoff wins against us...Plus add in the Bills want vengeance against these bums
I'm taking Bills to knock em out next year.


They need to fix whatever happened with Diggs & Allen, first. They may have to part ways with Stefon.


Yeah, the energy there is off. But unless I'm looking at their cap sheet and his contract incorrectly, it seems as if they would incur a huge dead money cap hit (just over $31MM) if he's not on the team next season, which includes a trade. They've definitely had some missteps with the cap recently. Von Miller was a pricey free agent signee who went on a spurt in a short sample size with the Rams, they overpaid for him, and since he got hurt he's been a shell of himself. He'd count for over $32MM in dead cap this year. They extended Dawson Knox and you tell me, is he worth a $14.3MM cap hit and just over $20MM in dead cap? And something is clearly off with Diggs. That's a lot of high-end money that isn't really working right now.

Josh Allen really has to be Superman for them.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 7:14 pm    Post subject:

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This was by far the most painful of the 49ers' three Super Bowl losses. You almost have to start to wonder if it will take on a life of its own the next time they get there or are in the NFC Championship Game.


Now let's hope the Lakers and Dodgers can win it all this year to ease the pain [/quote

You mean the Warriors and Giants? Cuz Fck the Niners
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Been a fan of the Lakers and Niners since the late 90's....started watching and rooting for the Dodgers when they played the Cheatros in 2017. These are my 3 favorite professional teams.
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The Scouting Combine is next week, and just before then, and especially during and immediately after, a ton of info is going to pour in about the prospects, and tea leaves will emerge as to how the draft is going to shake out. I already did one mock and I won't do another one until after the Combine, but some changes I would have already made if I were doing another one right now:

The Bears are most likely to just stay at #1 and pick Caleb Williams
They've never had access to a QB this talented before. Unless something ugly happens like Williams going scorched earth to try to force his way off the Bears, it just makes too much sense for them to take him.

Most teams have Jayden Daniels as QB2 over Drake Maye
If mocking right now, I'd slot Daniels #2 to Washington. And he may remind new OC Kliff Kingsbury of a bigger version of Kyler Murray, whom he obviously coached in the past.

J.J. McCarthy appears to be well ahead of both Michael Penix and Bo Nix in the QB pecking order
McCarthy will be 21 during his rookie season, while both Penix and Nix will be 24. And while McCarthy certainly wasn't asked to do as much heavy lifting in his offense and while his passing volume isn't close to what Penix and Nix have put on tape, apparently scouts love the size, mobility, arm talent, and youth that McCarthy provides. Penix and Nix appear to be seen as Day 2 picks; Penix will get dinged for his medical history, and Nix for his lack of arm talent. The current buzz seems to be that McCarthy won't make it past the Raiders at 13, as there are a slew of teams between 6 and 13 that need QB's, not to mention the possibility of a team lower than 13 trading up. The Patriots (#3), Chargers (#5), Titans (#7), and Falcons (#8) are all logical trade-down candidates. I would actually include the Bears (picking again at #9) in there if there isn't a player they love at that spot.

Malik Nabers is probably closer to Harrison Jr. as WR1 than he is to Rome Odunze for WR2 status
Nabers is going to run a blazing 40 time, and Odunze won't, not to mention that Nabers separates much more easily. Odunze has more size and is obviously highly-productive, but it appears that it would be a huge surprise if Nabers isn't off the board within the first 7 picks, and he could go as high as #4 to Arizona if the Patriots pass on the QB3 in this year's draft and take Harrison Jr.

Center Jackson Powers-Johnson seems to have moved to the top of the list among interior offensive lineman
Taliese Fuaga was not the only Oregon St. offensive lineman who acquitted himself well at the Senior Bowl, apparently. Powers-Johnson also drew huge raves, and appears positioned, at least for now, to go as the top iOL of the draft, ahead of Duke's Graham Barton.
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Came from a post elsewhere about the investigation..sheesh whew..

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The Scouting Combine is next week, and just before then, and especially during and immediately after, a ton of info is going to pour in about the prospects, and tea leaves will emerge as to how the draft is going to shake out. I already did one mock and I won't do another one until after the Combine, but some changes I would have already made if I were doing another one right now:

The Bears are most likely to just stay at #1 and pick Caleb Williams
They've never had access to a QB this talented before. Unless something ugly happens like Williams going scorched earth to try to force his way off the Bears, it just makes too much sense for them to take him.

Most teams have Jayden Daniels as QB2 over Drake Maye
If mocking right now, I'd slot Daniels #2 to Washington. And he may remind new OC Kliff Kingsbury of a bigger version of Kyler Murray, whom he obviously coached in the past.

J.J. McCarthy appears to be well ahead of both Michael Penix and Bo Nix in the QB pecking order
McCarthy will be 21 during his rookie season, while both Penix and Nix will be 24. And while McCarthy certainly wasn't asked to do as much heavy lifting in his offense and while his passing volume isn't close to what Penix and Nix have put on tape, apparently scouts love the size, mobility, arm talent, and youth that McCarthy provides. Penix and Nix appear to be seen as Day 2 picks; Penix will get dinged for his medical history, and Nix for his lack of arm talent. The current buzz seems to be that McCarthy won't make it past the Raiders at 13, as there are a slew of teams between 6 and 13 that need QB's, not to mention the possibility of a team lower than 13 trading up. The Patriots (#3), Chargers (#5), Titans (#7), and Falcons (#8) are all logical trade-down candidates. I would actually include the Bears (picking again at #9) in there if there isn't a player they love at that spot.

Malik Nabers is probably closer to Harrison Jr. as WR1 than he is to Rome Odunze for WR2 status
Nabers is going to run a blazing 40 time, and Odunze won't, not to mention that Nabers separates much more easily. Odunze has more size and is obviously highly-productive, but it appears that it would be a huge surprise if Nabers isn't off the board within the first 7 picks, and he could go as high as #4 to Arizona if the Patriots pass on the QB3 in this year's draft and take Harrison Jr.

Center Jackson Powers-Johnson seems to have moved to the top of the list among interior offensive lineman
Taliese Fuaga was not the only Oregon St. offensive lineman who acquitted himself well at the Senior Bowl, apparently. Powers-Johnson also drew huge raves, and appears positioned, at least for now, to go as the top iOL of the draft, ahead of Duke's Graham Barton.


Good stuff Stu.

I think Chicago has to take Williams at #1 and move on from Fields. Best path to quickly turning things around in the NFL is a stud rookie QB on a rookie deal.

Fields isn't terrible and is definitely improving. But now you have to pay him, better to take a swing at potential generational talent and shoot for the moon rather than settle for overpaying a middle of the pack QB the big money.

As far as Rome Odunze, I really like him and I think a good comparison would be a Keenan Allen type. Not a burner, but a really great route runner and smooth player who will be productive for a long time.

Even though I am mad at the Chargers for stabbing San Diego in the back, I am very intrigued by the Harbaugh hire and am looking forward to seeing how they handle the draft. As you mentioned and I have said before, trading down could really make a lot of sense here if the right deal comes along.

As far as JJ McCarthy, I like him a lot. He is one of those guys that is more athletic than people think and he is tough and a leader and an accurate passer. He could be another Joe Burrow type in theory if everything breaks right for him and he goes to the right team.

Penix I like, but his injury history is definitely a concern....I am not big at all on Nix.
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I'm so intrigued by what the Chargers may or may not do at #5. I totally agree with you that a trade down could be a strong option, especially if the QB3 of the draft is still there somehow. (Of course, if that's the case for Arizona at #4, particularly if Harrison Jr. is off the board, they also represent a strong trade-down possibility right in front of the Chargers.) They have so many holes to fill, thanks to former GM Tom Telesco's top-heavy approach to roster building. The depth just is not there across the roster. And I believe that to play the way that Harbaugh wants to play, the current OL situation is not tenable. Now, that doesn't mean that the Chargers have to pick an OL at #5, or even making their first pick an OL if they do trade down. But it has to be a strong possibility.

Personally, if the first 4 picks are the top 3 QB's and Harrison Jr., I believe the best player on the board is WR Malik Nabers. I would take him before Odunze and certainly before TE Brock Bowers. And although the OL is the bigger need, it is true that the Chargers do not have a long-term go-to pass catcher on the roster for Herbert. It looks like Mike Williams will be a cap casualty and that Keenan Allen will stick around, but Allen has to be a year-to-year proposition going forward. And as good as Allen is, he's not a gamebreaker. They need that for Herbert going forward. Perhaps as new GM Joe Hortiz comes from the Ravens, who seem to just have a best player available approach to the draft, Nabers could be the pick even if they think that the OL is the biggest need area. I believe that Harbaugh's influence will be huge as it relates to the draft and personnel matters (there has been no official announcement as to which man has "final say"), but as OL is deep this year just like WR is, maybe they can still piece together a couple of OL starters after Round 1, and maybe even a decent starter in free agency.

As it stands right now, I'd lean to the pick being Nabers if the first 4 picks are the 3 QB's and Harrison Jr. But I really do think that a trade down makes a lot of sense. But if the 3 QB's and Harrison are gone, I am not sure that there will be enough of a market to move into the #5 pick. I can't see McCarthy being valued that much, for example, but I suppose you never know. We've seen crazier stuff before.
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