🏈NFL 2023 DISCUSSION THREAD🏈

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Mahomes at 28 vs Kobe at 28… similar
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ChickenStu · Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:07 pm Post subject:

Steve Wilks fired as 49ers DC.

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Several people shot at Chiefs' Super Bowl parade.
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A mass shooting at a Super Bowl parade is the definition of Americana in 2024.

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Not to bring politics to this thread, but the idea that the average citizen should be allowed to carry a concealed weapon (as is the case in MO) without any permitting or clearance process is insanity.
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ChickenStu · Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:07 pm Post subject:

The Scouting Combine is next week, and just before then, and especially during and immediately after, a ton of info is going to pour in about the prospects, and tea leaves will emerge as to how the draft is going to shake out. I already did one mock and I won't do another one until after the Combine, but some changes I would have already made if I were doing another one right now:

The Bears are most likely to just stay at #1 and pick Caleb Williams
They've never had access to a QB this talented before. Unless something ugly happens like Williams going scorched earth to try to force his way off the Bears, it just makes too much sense for them to take him.

Most teams have Jayden Daniels as QB2 over Drake Maye
If mocking right now, I'd slot Daniels #2 to Washington. And he may remind new OC Kliff Kingsbury of a bigger version of Kyler Murray, whom he obviously coached in the past.

J.J. McCarthy appears to be well ahead of both Michael Penix and Bo Nix in the QB pecking order
McCarthy will be 21 during his rookie season, while both Penix and Nix will be 24. And while McCarthy certainly wasn't asked to do as much heavy lifting in his offense and while his passing volume isn't close to what Penix and Nix have put on tape, apparently scouts love the size, mobility, arm talent, and youth that McCarthy provides. Penix and Nix appear to be seen as Day 2 picks; Penix will get dinged for his medical history, and Nix for his lack of arm talent. The current buzz seems to be that McCarthy won't make it past the Raiders at 13, as there are a slew of teams between 6 and 13 that need QB's, not to mention the possibility of a team lower than 13 trading up. The Patriots (#3), Chargers (#5), Titans (#7), and Falcons (#8) are all logical trade-down candidates. I would actually include the Bears (picking again at #9) in there if there isn't a player they love at that spot.

Malik Nabers is probably closer to Harrison Jr. as WR1 than he is to Rome Odunze for WR2 status
Nabers is going to run a blazing 40 time, and Odunze won't, not to mention that Nabers separates much more easily. Odunze has more size and is obviously highly-productive, but it appears that it would be a huge surprise if Nabers isn't off the board within the first 7 picks, and he could go as high as #4 to Arizona if the Patriots pass on the QB3 in this year's draft and take Harrison Jr.

Center Jackson Powers-Johnson seems to have moved to the top of the list among interior offensive lineman
Taliese Fuaga was not the only Oregon St. offensive lineman who acquitted himself well at the Senior Bowl, apparently. Powers-Johnson also drew huge raves, and appears positioned, at least for now, to go as the top iOL of the draft, ahead of Duke's Graham Barton.

ContagiousInspiration · Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2024 6:34 pm Post subject:

Came from a post elsewhere about the investigation..sheesh whew..

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ChickenStu · Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2024 7:14 pm Post subject:

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I'm so intrigued by what the Chargers may or may not do at #5. I totally agree with you that a trade down could be a strong option, especially if the QB3 of the draft is still there somehow. (Of course, if that's the case for Arizona at #4, particularly if Harrison Jr. is off the board, they also represent a strong trade-down possibility right in front of the Chargers.) They have so many holes to fill, thanks to former GM Tom Telesco's top-heavy approach to roster building. The depth just is not there across the roster. And I believe that to play the way that Harbaugh wants to play, the current OL situation is not tenable. Now, that doesn't mean that the Chargers have to pick an OL at #5, or even making their first pick an OL if they do trade down. But it has to be a strong possibility.

Personally, if the first 4 picks are the top 3 QB's and Harrison Jr., I believe the best player on the board is WR Malik Nabers. I would take him before Odunze and certainly before TE Brock Bowers. And although the OL is the bigger need, it is true that the Chargers do not have a long-term go-to pass catcher on the roster for Herbert. It looks like Mike Williams will be a cap casualty and that Keenan Allen will stick around, but Allen has to be a year-to-year proposition going forward. And as good as Allen is, he's not a gamebreaker. They need that for Herbert going forward. Perhaps as new GM Joe Hortiz comes from the Ravens, who seem to just have a best player available approach to the draft, Nabers could be the pick even if they think that the OL is the biggest need area. I believe that Harbaugh's influence will be huge as it relates to the draft and personnel matters (there has been no official announcement as to which man has "final say"), but as OL is deep this year just like WR is, maybe they can still piece together a couple of OL starters after Round 1, and maybe even a decent starter in free agency.

As it stands right now, I'd lean to the pick being Nabers if the first 4 picks are the 3 QB's and Harrison Jr. But I really do think that a trade down makes a lot of sense. But if the 3 QB's and Harrison are gone, I am not sure that there will be enough of a market to move into the #5 pick. I can't see McCarthy being valued that much, for example, but I suppose you never know. We've seen crazier stuff before.