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socalsp3
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | I know Jeanie loves the Lakers very much and wants to see them succeed. That's why she should let go. Sometimes, you just have to let go of the things you love most. If she loves the Lakers, then she should sell the team. It's counterintuitive but it's the right move. |
she just needs to stop hiring friends and let basketball people make decisions |
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Most owners in basketball are clueless..
What jeanie lacks is hiring friends its simple..
If she would hire best available, she would be just another owner and not under the fire |
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SoCal88
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She's feeling the pressure of possibly having to fire yet another bad choice at head coach, then paying him to sit and paying out the remainder of his contract.
Then have to hire a new coach, and paying that person.
This could have been avoided by the hire of Ty Lue. The Lakers only wanted to offer him a 3-year deal. Then they turn around, hire Frank Vogel and gave him 5 years and was fired in year 3. Then go on to Ham, and signed him for 4-years
The acumen of the ownership and the front office is not a question of today - but has always been a constant issue since Jerry died.
The Buss "Trust" is an oxymoron.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 9:23 am Post subject: |
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| RusselDoeee01 wrote: | Most owners in basketball are clueless..
What jeanie lacks is hiring friends its simple..
If she would hire best available, she would be just another owner and not under the fire |
Pretty much how I feel about it. Most fan bases hate their owners, GM's and coaches. |
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laker4life
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| SoCal88 wrote: | She's feeling the pressure of possibly having to fire yet another bad choice at head coach, then paying him to sit and paying out the remainder of his contract.
Then have to hire a new coach, and paying that person.
This could have been avoided by the hire of Ty Lue. The Lakers only wanted to offer him a 3-year deal. Then they turn around, hire Frank Vogel and gave him 5 years and was fired in year 3. Then go on to Ham, and signed him for 4-years
The acumen of the ownership and the front office is not a question of today - but has always been a constant issue since Jerry died.
The Buss "Trust" is an oxymoron. |
Your analysis is on point.
Ty Lue should have been here.
Ownership and GM are to blame.
To win in this league you need a good coach.
The Celtics are learning this. The Knicks and Heat have good coaches.
Lakers simply have a bad coach. |
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Daddy would tell LBJ ... we like you. You can stay on if you take a big pay cut so we can bring on talent. If you don't, we can work with so you can get paid and go to a team you want and we can get talent back. Or you can do what's best.
Jeannie is too dumb to do any of that. |
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| SoCal88 wrote: | She's feeling the pressure of possibly having to fire yet another bad choice at head coach, then paying him to sit and paying out the remainder of his contract.
Then have to hire a new coach, and paying that person.
This could have been avoided by the hire of Ty Lue. The Lakers only wanted to offer him a 3-year deal. Then they turn around, hire Frank Vogel and gave him 5 years and was fired in year 3. Then go on to Ham, and signed him for 4-years
The acumen of the ownership and the front office is not a question of today - but has always been a constant issue since Jerry died.
The Buss "Trust" is an oxymoron. |
Lakers fans: damn, there is no way Lue would pick the clippers over the 16 time champions lakers who always win.
Lue: damn, who should I work for? Top 10 richest person on earth or the poorest owner in NBA? Which one could offer me more money? |
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| Too damn cheap to hire a head coach and decent medical staff, and got the nerve to call us Laker fans impatient? |
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not saying wealth will get you championships,. but it doesn't really help when you owner is in the bottom 5 when it comes to wealth
Bottom 5:
Peter Holt - $200M. ...
Clay Bennett - $400M. ...
Wyc Grousbeck - $400M. ...
Jeanie Buss - $500M. ...
Vivek Ranadive - $700M. ...
top 5:
Steve Ballmer, Los Angeles Clippers, $142 Billion.
Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers, $25 Billion. ...
Stan Kroenke, Denver Nuggets, $17.6 Billion. ...
Micky Arison, Miami Heat, $12.8 Billion. ...
Tom Gores, Detroit Pistons, $11.3 Billion. ...
She is the 4th poorest NBA owner who inherited a NBA team without having to lift a finger. |
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Detroit has a top 5 owner?  . |
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lakersfever714
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One fluke championship in 11 years and counting. If Lebron didn't come to the Lakers rescue, then the Lakers would have been the most underachieving team in the past 10 years considering their established history.
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | One fluke championship in 11 years and counting. If Lebron didn't come to the Lakers rescue, then the Lakers would have been the most underachieving team in the past 10 years considering their established history. |
We don’t know. Without the power of our player maybe we get better coaches. The crime was our young guys were stuck with Walton. Haven’t we underachieved anyway?
2 lotteries
2 1st round exits
1wcf sweep
1 bubble chip.
And there was even a national narrative asking if we should tank to avoid a team. That’s pretty low and I’m sure embarrassed Jeanie and every great xlaker
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| paymonM wrote: | not saying wealth will get you championships,. but it doesn't really help when you owner is in the bottom 5 when it comes to wealth
Bottom 5:
Peter Holt - $200M. ...
Clay Bennett - $400M. ...
Wyc Grousbeck - $400M. ...
Jeanie Buss - $500M. ...
Vivek Ranadive - $700M. ...
top 5:
Steve Ballmer, Los Angeles Clippers, $142 Billion.
Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers, $25 Billion. ...
Stan Kroenke, Denver Nuggets, $17.6 Billion. ...
Micky Arison, Miami Heat, $12.8 Billion. ...
Tom Gores, Detroit Pistons, $11.3 Billion. ...
She is the 4th poorest NBA owner who inherited a NBA team without having to lift a finger. |
Crazy how rich Ballz is. Like richer than all the other owners combined.
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| hydrohead wrote: | | paymonM wrote: | not saying wealth will get you championships,. but it doesn't really help when you owner is in the bottom 5 when it comes to wealth
Bottom 5:
Peter Holt - $200M. ...
Clay Bennett - $400M. ...
Wyc Grousbeck - $400M. ...
Jeanie Buss - $500M. ...
Vivek Ranadive - $700M. ...
top 5:
Steve Ballmer, Los Angeles Clippers, $142 Billion.
Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers, $25 Billion. ...
Stan Kroenke, Denver Nuggets, $17.6 Billion. ...
Micky Arison, Miami Heat, $12.8 Billion. ...
Tom Gores, Detroit Pistons, $11.3 Billion. ...
She is the 4th poorest NBA owner who inherited a NBA team without having to lift a finger. |
Crazy how rich Ballz is. Like richer than all the other owners combined. |
it's mind boggling especially since he wasn't a founder of Microsoft, and during his tenure, the company went from a market cap of $604 billion down to $270B when he was fired in 2013. He must have held on to his shares to have $143B. Goes to show there is a big difference between a founder and someone who inherits it.
I think until the Buss family lets go of the franchise, we will continue to go with quick fixes, lack of long term vision, and incompetent management with the likes of Rambis and his wife in the background influencing Jeannie. |
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| It is interesting how you attribute the net worth of an owner to the quality of the team. Look at who is the cheapest owner on that list. Peter Holt owner of the San Antonio Spurs. Clay Bennett owner of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Wyc Grousbeck owner of the Boston Celtics. Bottom 3 owners by that logic. |
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Self-made millionaires and billionaires are very different from inherited ones. You'd have to make very good decisions in order to gain wealth and become a millionaire. There's plenty of kids who inherit their parents fortune and blow it all.
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Dr. Buss shelled out a lot of money for various ventures for Jeanie (and her siblings) to run but all of them failed. You hope that the light will come on and she will realize that she needs to find someone qualified to run the organization but I don’t expect that to happen.
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| When the TV contract expires, some of the kids will look to get out. If they do (6 @ 11% each) and sell it to the same person or group, Jeannie could lose her power. I could see her ultimately wanting out as well. |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | When the TV contract expires, some of the kids will look to get out. If they do (6 @ 11% each) and sell it to the same person or group, Jeannie could lose her power. I could see her ultimately wanting out as well. |
Dr. Buss structured the trust in such a way that it is *all* or *nothing*. The kids can’t sell their shares individually. They must all agree to sell the 66%, or as one of them put it in the Hulu documentary, the last man or woman standing will inherit the whole thing.
One would think there is very little reason for Jesse and Joey to agree to sell, as they stand to benefit the most from standing pat. |
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| ArminNBA wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | When the TV contract expires, some of the kids will look to get out. If they do (6 @ 11% each) and sell it to the same person or group, Jeannie could lose her power. I could see her ultimately wanting out as well. |
Dr. Buss structured the trust in such a way that it is *all* or *nothing*. The kids can’t sell their shares individually. They must all agree to sell the 66%, or as one of them put it in the Hulu documentary, the last man or woman standing will inherit the whole thing.
One would think there is very little reason for Jesse and Joey to agree to sell, as they stand to benefit the most from standing pat. |
Actually, 4 of the 6 (2 thirds) could approve the sale of the team. It has already been reported that Jim and Johnny previously tried to vote Jeannie out once Jeannie fired Jim. I'm sure there is some bad blood. Because the age disparity of the kids and the crazy money teams are worth, I could easily see 4 of them voting to sell the team. |
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| RI Laker wrote: | | ArminNBA wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | When the TV contract expires, some of the kids will look to get out. If they do (6 @ 11% each) and sell it to the same person or group, Jeannie could lose her power. I could see her ultimately wanting out as well. |
Dr. Buss structured the trust in such a way that it is *all* or *nothing*. The kids can’t sell their shares individually. They must all agree to sell the 66%, or as one of them put it in the Hulu documentary, the last man or woman standing will inherit the whole thing.
One would think there is very little reason for Jesse and Joey to agree to sell, as they stand to benefit the most from standing pat. |
Actually, 4 of the 6 (2 thirds) could approve the sale of the team. It has already been reported that Jim and Johnny previously tried to vote Jeannie out once Jeannie fired Jim. I'm sure there is some bad blood. Because the age disparity of the kids and the crazy money teams are worth, I could easily see 4 of them voting to sell the team. |
First time I've heard of such thing. Where does it say only 4 of 6 is needed? How does that work if only 4 sells their stake and the other 2 retains their stakes?
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | ArminNBA wrote: | | RI Laker wrote: | | When the TV contract expires, some of the kids will look to get out. If they do (6 @ 11% each) and sell it to the same person or group, Jeannie could lose her power. I could see her ultimately wanting out as well. |
Dr. Buss structured the trust in such a way that it is *all* or *nothing*. The kids can’t sell their shares individually. They must all agree to sell the 66%, or as one of them put it in the Hulu documentary, the last man or woman standing will inherit the whole thing.
One would think there is very little reason for Jesse and Joey to agree to sell, as they stand to benefit the most from standing pat. |
Actually, 4 of the 6 (2 thirds) could approve the sale of the team. It has already been reported that Jim and Johnny previously tried to vote Jeannie out once Jeannie fired Jim. I'm sure there is some bad blood. Because the age disparity of the kids and the crazy money teams are worth, I could easily see 4 of them voting to sell the team. |
First time I've heard of such thing. Where does it say only 4 of 6 is needed? How does that work if only 4 sells their stake and the other 2 retains their stakes? |
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18822531/faq-lakers-buss-family-drama
Who knows how accurate this is as none of us know what the trust actually says.
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| Halflife wrote: | | If her family loves her they would intervene. Get the needed amount of people to sell. Write in that she gets lifetime tix/parking and at least 4 big screen shots a game. |
But her family doesn't love her. Definitely not Jim. Dysfunctional family.
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