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ZeroDark30_
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| The Pels had no business winning this game. On a b2b, we’re rested. Vogel looked helpless once they made adjustments after half |
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JUST-MING
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| Mr 39 points blew open layups right at the basket. You remember Russell skying for those rebounds and feeding him open dunks? He's not blameless. He played the entire fourth quarter, the team scored 14 points, in which he starred (pun) as casper the ghost. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| jodeke wrote: | | What is it about this team in the 3rd quarter? Do they lose concentration, get tired legs, take their foot off the gas. WHAT?? |
They take it easy, and don't have a leader that will kick them in the rear so they don't lose focus or get them engaged.
There's no "Draymond" or "Kobe" on this team.
When the Lakers had a personality like that last, it was Rondo. But they got rid of him for nothing.
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Lakesh0wtime
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The game was lost in the 3rd where we were up 23 and ended the quarter up 4. THT didn’t play in the 3rd at all.
THT is by no means good but if you’re saying he was the issue this game then idk wtf you’re watching.
Unless you think his 5 head has some sort of voodoo while he watches which caused us to lose the lead. |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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| At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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| cirehawk wrote: | | Laker4lifer4real wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | cirehawk wrote: | | ZeroDark30_ wrote: | | Westbrook comes in. No spacing |
Russ hasn't been the problem today, THT has. Along with Vogel's dumb rotations. |
Don’t think THT played bad, but we played way too many players, no rhythm |
Ya I agree. The rotation needs to be cut.
Melo, THT, Gabriel, and Stanley all cant play major minutes |
There's a reason the Lakers rotation looked and felt better when they weren't trying to work THT into it. He's simply not ready and a liability to our momentum right now. |
Not exactly true. THT offered length to defend BI and CJ. He was +6. Only took 4 shots. He was not the problem. |
This whole +/- thing is getting out of hand. LeBron was a -9. Does that mean he was more of an issue than THT? |
How was THT the issue when we lost a 23 point lead in one quarter in which he didn’t even play that quarter? Make it make sense |
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I forgot about Bron's ankle tweak until lakerican brought it up. #LeSigh
Just whatever. I'll get over this and move on ... In fact, this is a fresh air and ice cream evening... |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | What is it about this team in the 3rd quarter? Do they lose concentration, get tired legs, take their foot off the gas. WHAT?? |
They take it easy, and don't have a leader that will kick them in the rear so they don't lose focus or get them engaged.
There's no "Draymond" or "Kobe" on this team.
When the Lakers had a personality like that last, it was Rondo. But they got rid of him for nothing. |
BAHAHA YES IT WAS RONDO 
You people are hilarious man. |
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mad55557777
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
Right after we miss or lose the playin. There is really no point of doing it now |
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rock0100
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Wenyan sat while THT did nothing for us. |
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ZeroDark30_
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| Vogel did nothing to stop the bleeding in the 3rd. He was helpless. They adjusted, he had nothing. By the 4th he had a confident team and his guys were playing on their heels, add in a tired LeBron. Game |
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| Outspoken wrote: | | Bad news that THT is available, unless he plays well. |
Because Vogel forces him in, when he doesn't need to and it messes up more effective rotations.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
Right after we miss or lose the playin. There is really no point of doing it now |
David Fizdale would take over as interim head coach
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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| TMG wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | What is it about this team in the 3rd quarter? Do they lose concentration, get tired legs, take their foot off the gas. WHAT?? |
They take it easy, and don't have a leader that will kick them in the rear so they don't lose focus or get them engaged.
There's no "Draymond" or "Kobe" on this team.
When the Lakers had a personality like that last, it was Rondo. But they got rid of him for nothing. |
BAHAHA YES IT WAS RONDO
You people are hilarious man. |
Rondo was the voice in the locker room and on the court that dug into players like LeBron whenever he thought they were coasting and it definitely kicked it into gear whenever we were just 'floating' through games.
That kind of personality and mentality on the team is vital, if you don't get it from your leaders you get it from there.
It's why Draymond is important to the Warriors in THAT regard. When LeBron has someone that calls him out for 'floating', things usually go better.
When LeBron is pouting, or not getting back on defense, or disengaging from the game because he's frustrated, Rondo would let him know about it and wasn't afraid to challenge him, and to his credit, LeBron responded to it.
We don't have anyone doing that now.
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| Missing the play-in would be a blessing tbh |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Inspector Gadget wrote: | | At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
8 games left is why he's not getting fired, IMO. it would just be silly at this point. Changeover will take place in the off season. |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
Right after we miss or lose the playin. There is really no point of doing it now |
If players don’t want to play for you what’s the point in keeping him around? especially in a lost season? I actually supported the idea of him staying until the season was done but I think you can make the argument that both parties should move on. |
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| rock0100 wrote: | | Wenyan sat while THT did nothing for us. |
Our rotations felt a lot smoother and in rhythm for our players when they weren't trying to force THT to be in them.
I think THT NOT being in the rotation is best for the rhythm of the team going forward, based on the last games we've seen where he didn't play, vs the ones where he did.
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ZeroDark30_
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| LeBron did not want to sit in the first half because he knew his ankle would get too sore. He wasn’t the same after half. But, this game was lost defensively |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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| rock0100 wrote: | | Wenyan sat while THT did nothing for us. |
THT can heat up and give us a mediocre game while Wenyen has length and brains and two arms
Vogelotage |
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Laker4lifer4real
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | cirehawk wrote: | | Laker4lifer4real wrote: | | MJST wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | cirehawk wrote: | | ZeroDark30_ wrote: | | Westbrook comes in. No spacing |
Russ hasn't been the problem today, THT has. Along with Vogel's dumb rotations. |
Don’t think THT played bad, but we played way too many players, no rhythm |
Ya I agree. The rotation needs to be cut.
Melo, THT, Gabriel, and Stanley all cant play major minutes |
There's a reason the Lakers rotation looked and felt better when they weren't trying to work THT into it. He's simply not ready and a liability to our momentum right now. |
Not exactly true. THT offered length to defend BI and CJ. He was +6. Only took 4 shots. He was not the problem. |
This whole +/- thing is getting out of hand. LeBron was a -9. Does that mean he was more of an issue than THT? |
How was THT the issue when we lost a 23 point lead in one quarter in which he didn’t even play that quarter? Make it make sense |
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | Inspector Gadget wrote: | | At this point you have to fire Vogel no? there is 8 games left in the season, Phil Handy would take over and would let the players have fun while we close out the season and start the coaching search. |
Right after we miss or lose the playin. There is really no point of doing it now |
David Fizdale would take over as interim head coach |
Nice, is he going to play DJA at the center? |
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ZeroDark30_
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| rock0100 wrote: | | Wenyan sat while THT did nothing for us. |
I’ll be honest, Wenyen didn’t have a good game… him and Stanley. Guys didn’t show up. Our hustle guys were quiet Johnson, Gabriel and Reaves |
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TMG
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2022 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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Really i do hate this team with a passion. I despise Melo i really do. I kinda hate Frank as well to be honest.
THT is just a disappointment overall.
This whole season has been a reality check. We need to blow it up. Seriously wtf is stopping this team from having a sale on everything. We wont get better next season. THT likely will be the same player. Get some value for Lebron and AD. Let Russ have fun one year maybe we'll trade him at deadline next season when his value is up or something.
We seriously need to start acting like small market teams. Build through draft picks. Got a title out of this but im seriously over it now. Time for a complete change. But old hag Jeanie wont do it. Naw she wont. Cause she's an idiot. |
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