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| Kblo247! wrote: | | troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
The one who checks the boxes is Rondo. Knows AD, knows Bron, can break down the game, been in LA, played with hall of famers, gets being a laker and Celtic, and demands excellence and attention to detail. If you are going first time coach, it is him.
If you are going used coach go get Bud. He’s won before. He turned a team of role guys like Korver and Horford into all stars so he benefits guys like Reaves and Dlo. He is also a guy who knew enough of Ham to know what worked and didn’t work.
Now if you want to be bold and make a statement go get Becky Hammond and start a movement. She knows the pop system like Udoka. She takes no (bleep) and is blunt. She grew up in ny media watching her team. She grew up with pop as the man on her staff. She like Jeanie gets to be a woman in sports.
Last two choices for me would be doubling down on Handy and promoting him to be your lead with no one in Front of him, as you have seen with both Ham and Vogel the teams look to respect him far more than them. Or you can wait it out and see what happens with Lue |
Definitely would love to see Rondo as our head coach with an experienced guy next to him. I would say thats almost ideal. |
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| This dude and his shrimp lineups bro. Those Rui/Bron lineups are awful. With Prince at the 3 while we are getting trampled by AG? Idiot. |
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Halflife
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
The one who checks the boxes is Rondo. Knows AD, knows Bron, can break down the game, been in LA, played with hall of famers, gets being a laker and Celtic, and demands excellence and attention to detail. If you are going first time coach, it is him.
If you are going used coach go get Bud. He’s won before. He turned a team of role guys like Korver and Horford into all stars so he benefits guys like Reaves and Dlo. He is also a guy who knew enough of Ham to know what worked and didn’t work.
Now if you want to be bold and make a statement go get Becky Hammond and start a movement. She knows the pop system like Udoka. She takes no (bleep) and is blunt. She grew up in ny media watching her team. She grew up with pop as the man on her staff. She like Jeanie gets to be a woman in sports.
Last two choices for me would be doubling down on Handy and promoting him to be your lead with no one in Front of him, as you have seen with both Ham and Vogel the teams look to respect him far more than them. Or you can wait it out and see what happens with Lue |
Definitely would love to see Rondo as our head coach with an experienced guy next to him. I would say thats almost ideal. |
I like rondo. However a guy with zero experience regardless of staff isnt exactly what we need unless rebuilding
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:51 pm Post subject: |
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| One thing Rondo excells at too: Playoff execution. Dude is a savant and can turn himself from a net negative player in the regular season revealing his true deficiencies at that point in his career to being a top 3 or 4 player on a title team. We could use some of that playoff execution DNA on this team. |
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slavavov
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The Lakers need to bite the bullet and do whatever it takes and spend however much it takes to hire a good head coach this offseason.
Even the Chargers with the cheap-ass Spanos family brought in a great coach in Jim Harbaugh, and now they have an identity and a plan.
If the Lakers stick with Ham for next season, maybe it means they don't care enough about winning a world championship.
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kfkilla
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| slavavov wrote: | The Lakers need to bite the bullet and do whatever it takes and spend however much it takes to hire a good head coach this offseason.
Even the Chargers with the cheap-ass Spanos family brought in a great coach in Jim Harbaugh, and now they have an identity and a plan.
If the Lakers stick with Ham for next season, maybe it means they don't care enough about winning a world championship. |
Bron is too old and too established for any coach to make a difference. That said we definitely need another coach. |
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| 1995Lakers wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
The one who checks the boxes is Rondo. Knows AD, knows Bron, can break down the game, been in LA, played with hall of famers, gets being a laker and Celtic, and demands excellence and attention to detail. If you are going first time coach, it is him.
If you are going used coach go get Bud. He’s won before. He turned a team of role guys like Korver and Horford into all stars so he benefits guys like Reaves and Dlo. He is also a guy who knew enough of Ham to know what worked and didn’t work.
Now if you want to be bold and make a statement go get Becky Hammond and start a movement. She knows the pop system like Udoka. She takes no (bleep) and is blunt. She grew up in ny media watching her team. She grew up with pop as the man on her staff. She like Jeanie gets to be a woman in sports.
Last two choices for me would be doubling down on Handy and promoting him to be your lead with no one in Front of him, as you have seen with both Ham and Vogel the teams look to respect him far more than them. Or you can wait it out and see what happens with Lue |
Definitely would love to see Rondo as our head coach with an experienced guy next to him. I would say thats almost ideal. |
You guys are idiots.
There have been more than enough cases of good point guards being super bad coaches.
(Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Marc Jackson)
It seems like all good points guards are stunted as a NBA head coach.
Not saying Rondo will fail for sure.
But he at least needs to start from an assistant role. |
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CANT FREAKING TRUST THIS GUY AS A COACH...
Each game in the playoffs he has some what change the rotation. |
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Ham managed to turn a 17/7guy into end of bench cheerleader
Managed to turn a good playoff performer known for isolations into a defensive specialist.
Plays a guy that gives you the same production in 20 minutes or 35 minutes heavy minutes for half a season
Plays cam reddish heavy minutes over our own youth (max), no minutes for any young players. AR should thank Vogel because without Vogel, he would probably stuck in G league now.
I will leave the in game stuff out because this post will be too long |
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sydneykb
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Why not try Max on MPJ? Max is also a good rebounder for his position. 
Should play Hayes and AD together when Rui's not scoring...  |
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quartzcharm
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| Fire Darvin Ham and sign Mike Budenholzer. |
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coldzim
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| quartzcharm wrote: | | Fire Darvin Ham and sign Mike Budenholzer. |
Bud is Ham 2.0, I don't think is a great upgrade at all... |
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slavavov
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Nonamehero wrote: | | 1995Lakers wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
The one who checks the boxes is Rondo. Knows AD, knows Bron, can break down the game, been in LA, played with hall of famers, gets being a laker and Celtic, and demands excellence and attention to detail. If you are going first time coach, it is him.
If you are going used coach go get Bud. He’s won before. He turned a team of role guys like Korver and Horford into all stars so he benefits guys like Reaves and Dlo. He is also a guy who knew enough of Ham to know what worked and didn’t work.
Now if you want to be bold and make a statement go get Becky Hammond and start a movement. She knows the pop system like Udoka. She takes no (bleep) and is blunt. She grew up in ny media watching her team. She grew up with pop as the man on her staff. She like Jeanie gets to be a woman in sports.
Last two choices for me would be doubling down on Handy and promoting him to be your lead with no one in Front of him, as you have seen with both Ham and Vogel the teams look to respect him far more than them. Or you can wait it out and see what happens with Lue |
Definitely would love to see Rondo as our head coach with an experienced guy next to him. I would say thats almost ideal. |
You guys are idiots.
There have been more than enough cases of good point guards being super bad coaches.
(Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Marc Jackson)
It seems like all good points guards are stunted as a NBA head coach.
Not saying Rondo will fail for sure.
But he at least needs to start from an assistant role. |
Yes!
Hire Rondo as an assistant and let him learn what it takes to be a head coach. This way, maybe in a few years we'll have someone who's ready to be a strong bench leader and head coach already on our bench.
Hire him before the Celtics do.
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slavavov
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| troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
I love Cooper too (he was before my time though). But isn't he up there in age? And didn't he recently battle cancer? I'm not sure if he'd even want the job or if he'd be able to handle it at this point in his life.
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| Nonamehero wrote: | | 1995Lakers wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | troy wrote: | | I would love to see Michael Cooper coaching this team. He checks the boxes; legacy with Dr. Buss, a former Laker champion, respected by the late Kobe Bryant, a proven championship coach (WNBA), loved by Los Angeles. He would bring toughness and respect to this Lakers team. Back in his day, Coop would fight anyone and he was a defensive beast. |
The one who checks the boxes is Rondo. Knows AD, knows Bron, can break down the game, been in LA, played with hall of famers, gets being a laker and Celtic, and demands excellence and attention to detail. If you are going first time coach, it is him.
If you are going used coach go get Bud. He’s won before. He turned a team of role guys like Korver and Horford into all stars so he benefits guys like Reaves and Dlo. He is also a guy who knew enough of Ham to know what worked and didn’t work.
Now if you want to be bold and make a statement go get Becky Hammond and start a movement. She knows the pop system like Udoka. She takes no (bleep) and is blunt. She grew up in ny media watching her team. She grew up with pop as the man on her staff. She like Jeanie gets to be a woman in sports.
Last two choices for me would be doubling down on Handy and promoting him to be your lead with no one in Front of him, as you have seen with both Ham and Vogel the teams look to respect him far more than them. Or you can wait it out and see what happens with Lue |
Definitely would love to see Rondo as our head coach with an experienced guy next to him. I would say thats almost ideal. |
You guys are idiots.
There have been more than enough cases of good point guards being super bad coaches.
(Steve Nash, Jason Kidd, Isiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Marc Jackson)
It seems like all good points guards are stunted as a NBA head coach.
Not saying Rondo will fail for sure.
But he at least needs to start from an assistant role. |
Jason Kidd made a western convergence finals, developed Giannis, and is the guy most the lakers credit over Vogel for being the smart one on the team, he just didn’t get the job because of his domestic past, but he was the guy who would have a,ways had the job and had the locker room |
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I don't see what marrying another season to AD/Lebron + plus a new flashy hire will do for the Lakers longterm. They should have probably never broken up the core of the title team (meaning Caruso, KCP, Kuz etc) and kept Vogel, brought in Rondo as an assistant head coach. Improve the pieces around that core with better bench, you likely add Reaves who Vogel used and developed well. Hindsight is always 20-20 though.
Look at the Nuggs. I bet even if they flame out later in the postseason, they will not ship KCP, Gordon or MPJ. They do not view their team as Jokic/Murray and expendables nor do they think their coach is expendable.
At the time trading for WB was something the FO felt was needed and AD/Lebron wanted it too. Then, they blamed the head coach who won them a title for it. Worse, they added a HC who really doesn't know how to win at this level (playoffs, title etc). We continue to ignore the roles KCP, Caruso, Howard, Green played in the title run. We've added quality offense with Reaves, DLO, Rui around AD/Bron. However continually ignoring that we needed a defensive 5, a defensive 1 and also a real replacement for KCP (Someone that makes 3s and also defends at the perimeter).
How much will Lebron/AD post winning an Olympic Gold really give us next season? Do we want to spend 10$ M a year on Bud, if he is even willing to come? This was the most we got from Lebron/AD in health and impact since 2019-20. Yet we finished 7th and are down 0-3 vs the Nuggets. We're simply not going to magically elevate into a title team. The number 1 change that needs to happen IMO is Pelinka. He simply does not understand what won him a title in the first place. I have real fear that to save his and Ham's butt, he will be trading away FRPs this summer to "elevate" us. I fear the talk about Trae. This is not the right move. |
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This is what you get for hiring a rookie headcoach and expect him to be a genius.
This is what you get for hiring a rookie GM and expect him to be knowledgeable.
This is what you get for someone who wasn't qualified to be an owner inherited the position.
This is an absolute embarrassment to the proud Laker franchise. Lakers don't get swept. Lakers never got swept. Do whatever it takes to win game 4!!
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 6:10 am Post subject: |
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98% of the board says we can beat anyone but the Nuggs. That would imply that our issues with them goes a lot deeper than coaching.
The only viable coaching option out there right now is:
Juwan Howard - Teammate of pelinka and relationship with bron- got fired from Michigan and will probably be cheap. Spo coaching tree. College experience.
Did I say he will probably be cheap.
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| Do we bench Dangelo for game 4 like last year? |
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | Do we bench Dangelo for game 4 like last year? |
Sure?
Probably helps with him re-upping which is good for us.
If he was in fact on his phone, we have to. That is as bad as that tall ex clipper laying down on the bench.
But...
if we have any hope of getting a game we need him.
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He literally said before game a team is reflection of it's coach
His team then goes in and quits in the game 😂 |
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I think we don’t lose 11 straight with a different coach.
But I’m not gonna pretend coaching is the difference between beating Denver in a series or not.
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