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JUST-MING
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | JUST-MING wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | King Randle wrote: |
I think this applies most to Bamba. 6th player picked. 7’10 wingspan, can knock down a 3 and definitely can protect the rim. There’s no one like him in the draft compared to a ton of athletic 6’6 - 6’9 athletic wings. And again with AD more than likely having surgery in the off season…Bamba is more of a need and Pelinka finally got him after pursuing him for 2 years. |
I have no idea what will happen with Bamba. It wouldn't shock me to see him be a luxury tax casualty. |
They got a peak at what their options are without him. Tristian Thompson and Tony Bradley. I think they keep him, tbh. |
I’m pretty sure that there will be other backup centers available in the offseason. |
If they want to spend. Dwight Powell and Christian Wood are free agents.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35427676/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2023-2024 |
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@Val, thx bro…and you’re right…it really doesn’t matter till it gets fixed up top. Still pretty wild that last season, we ate DJ & Ariza’s contracts that led to 14m in additional fees (dead cap salary + associated taxes) for ownership. And as a result, a 4yr extension was handed out…cause alignment reasons 
This year tho, dude dumped nearly 62m (in salary + associated taxes). According to my math, he’s in line for a bagillion yr extension.
@AH: Yep, if things continue to trend as they are, I do see some cost cutting moves on the horizon.
@G: CRoo might be working in hyperbole, but he’s not entirely off base. If you give DLo and/or Rui just 5m more collectively between the two, then our tax bill goes up by nearly 22m. So if that sample cap sheet I posted earlier is somewhat similar to what we do, but either DLo gets a 30m deal or Rui gets a 15mish deal, then taxes would be around 90m with that hypothetical 190m in team salary.
We’d be close to that 100m tax bill that he’s suggesting if we’re about 27m over the tax line. So on a projected 165m tax threshold, if we have team salary in the 192mish range, we looking at that 100m tax bill.
| Quote: | Non-repeater Tax / Repeater Tax rates are as follows (total tax amounts for that tier are within parentheses) :
$0 - 4.99m ———> 1.5 (7.5m) / 2.5 (12.5m)
$5m - 9.99m ——> 1.75 (8.75m) / 2.75 (13.75m)
$10m - 14.99m —> 2.5 (12.5m) / 3.5 (17.5m)
$15m - 19.99m —> 3.25 (16.25m) / 4.25 (21.25m)
$20m - 24.99m —> 3.75 (18.75m) / 4.75 (23.75m)
$25m - 29.99m —> 4.25 (21.25m) / 5.25 (26.25m)
$30m - 34.99m —> 4.75 (23.75m) / 5.75 (28.75m)
$35m - 39.99m —> 5.25 (26.25m) / 6.25 (31.25m)
$40m - 44.99m —> 5.75 (28.75m) / 6.75 (33.75m)
$45m - 49.99m —> 6.25 (31.25m) / 7.25 (36.25m)
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | King Randle wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | JUST-MING wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | King Randle wrote: |
I think this applies most to Bamba. 6th player picked. 7’10 wingspan, can knock down a 3 and definitely can protect the rim. There’s no one like him in the draft compared to a ton of athletic 6’6 - 6’9 athletic wings. And again with AD more than likely having surgery in the off season…Bamba is more of a need and Pelinka finally got him after pursuing him for 2 years. |
I have no idea what will happen with Bamba. It wouldn't shock me to see him be a luxury tax casualty. |
They got a peak at what their options are without him. Tristian Thompson and Tony Bradley. I think they keep him, tbh. |
I’m pretty sure that there will be other backup centers available in the offseason. |
Really? That we can afford? Sure if you like Len, Zeller, Bobo, Garza, Mo Wagner, Kaminsky, Biyombo, clowns like this. All others will cost more than Bamba. |
All are better fits than Thompson and Bradley. |
Sure but to fill in for AD for awhile….give me Bamba any day over those clowns. |
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King Randle
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| JUST-MING wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | JUST-MING wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | King Randle wrote: |
I think this applies most to Bamba. 6th player picked. 7’10 wingspan, can knock down a 3 and definitely can protect the rim. There’s no one like him in the draft compared to a ton of athletic 6’6 - 6’9 athletic wings. And again with AD more than likely having surgery in the off season…Bamba is more of a need and Pelinka finally got him after pursuing him for 2 years. |
I have no idea what will happen with Bamba. It wouldn't shock me to see him be a luxury tax casualty. |
They got a peak at what their options are without him. Tristian Thompson and Tony Bradley. I think they keep him, tbh. |
I’m pretty sure that there will be other backup centers available in the offseason. |
If they want to spend. Dwight Powell and Christian Wood are free agents.
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/35427676/nba-free-agents-team-team-lists-2023-2024 |
Spend it on Bamba…Woods will get more than $10 million and Powell is right there. Give me Bamba all day. |
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | @Val, thx bro…and you’re right…it really doesn’t matter till it gets fixed up top. Still pretty wild that last season, we ate DJ & Ariza’s contracts that led to 14m in additional fees (dead cap salary + associated taxes) for ownership. And as a result, a 4yr extension was handed out…cause alignment reasons
This year tho, dude dumped nearly 62m (in salary + associated taxes). According to my math, he’s in line for a bagillion yr extension.
@AH: Yep, if things continue to trend as they are, I do see some cost cutting moves on the horizon.
@G: CRoo might be working in hyperbole, but he’s not entirely off base. If you give DLo and/or Rui just 5m more collectively between the two, then our tax bill goes up by nearly 22m. So if that sample cap sheet I posted earlier is somewhat similar to what we do, but either DLo gets a 30m deal or Rui gets a 15mish deal, then taxes would be around 90m with that hypothetical 190m in team salary.
We’d be close to that 100m tax bill that he’s suggesting if we’re about 27m over the tax line. So on a projected 165m tax threshold, if we have team salary in the 192mish range, we looking at that 100m tax bill.
| Quote: | Non-repeater Tax / Repeater Tax rates are as follows (total tax amounts for that tier are within parentheses) :
$0 - 4.99m ———> 1.5 (7.5m) / 2.5 (12.5m)
$5m - 9.99m ——> 1.75 (8.75m) / 2.75 (13.75m)
$10m - 14.99m —> 2.5 (12.5m) / 3.5 (17.5m)
$15m - 19.99m —> 3.25 (16.25m) / 4.25 (21.25m)
$20m - 24.99m —> 3.75 (18.75m) / 4.75 (23.75m)
$25m - 29.99m —> 4.25 (21.25m) / 5.25 (26.25m)
$30m - 34.99m —> 4.75 (23.75m) / 5.75 (28.75m)
$35m - 39.99m —> 5.25 (26.25m) / 6.25 (31.25m)
$40m - 44.99m —> 5.75 (28.75m) / 6.75 (33.75m)
$45m - 49.99m —> 6.25 (31.25m) / 7.25 (36.25m)
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I still think they will see if Beasley/Mo are willing to resign for less before they decide to just let them go. See if Rui will take $8.5m QO as a prove it deal type of year and to stay in LA. Mo has not really proven himself, he's not worth the $10.3m salary. Beasley have many chances to prove himself and I think has played himself out of that $16m team option.
But it will suck to lose all those 3 guys for nothing. |
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| MJST wrote: | | Don't be surprised if the Lakers pick up Beasley's option and then try to immediately try to trade him + their pick to Indiana for Buddy Hield. If successful(along with re-signing D'Angelo) you'd walk into next season with a starting lineup looking like this |
The difference between Buddy Hield and Malik Beasley isn't a pick in the 10-18 range.
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| miggz23 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | @Val, thx bro…and you’re right…it really doesn’t matter till it gets fixed up top. Still pretty wild that last season, we ate DJ & Ariza’s contracts that led to 14m in additional fees (dead cap salary + associated taxes) for ownership. And as a result, a 4yr extension was handed out…cause alignment reasons
This year tho, dude dumped nearly 62m (in salary + associated taxes). According to my math, he’s in line for a bagillion yr extension.
@AH: Yep, if things continue to trend as they are, I do see some cost cutting moves on the horizon.
@G: CRoo might be working in hyperbole, but he’s not entirely off base. If you give DLo and/or Rui just 5m more collectively between the two, then our tax bill goes up by nearly 22m. So if that sample cap sheet I posted earlier is somewhat similar to what we do, but either DLo gets a 30m deal or Rui gets a 15mish deal, then taxes would be around 90m with that hypothetical 190m in team salary.
We’d be close to that 100m tax bill that he’s suggesting if we’re about 27m over the tax line. So on a projected 165m tax threshold, if we have team salary in the 192mish range, we looking at that 100m tax bill.
| Quote: | Non-repeater Tax / Repeater Tax rates are as follows (total tax amounts for that tier are within parentheses) :
$0 - 4.99m ———> 1.5 (7.5m) / 2.5 (12.5m)
$5m - 9.99m ——> 1.75 (8.75m) / 2.75 (13.75m)
$10m - 14.99m —> 2.5 (12.5m) / 3.5 (17.5m)
$15m - 19.99m —> 3.25 (16.25m) / 4.25 (21.25m)
$20m - 24.99m —> 3.75 (18.75m) / 4.75 (23.75m)
$25m - 29.99m —> 4.25 (21.25m) / 5.25 (26.25m)
$30m - 34.99m —> 4.75 (23.75m) / 5.75 (28.75m)
$35m - 39.99m —> 5.25 (26.25m) / 6.25 (31.25m)
$40m - 44.99m —> 5.75 (28.75m) / 6.75 (33.75m)
$45m - 49.99m —> 6.25 (31.25m) / 7.25 (36.25m)
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I still think they will see if Beasley/Mo are willing to resign for less before they decide to just let them go. See if Rui will take $8.5m QO as a prove it deal type of year and to stay in LA. Mo has not really proven himself, he's not worth the $10.3m salary. Beasley have many chances to prove himself and I think has played himself out of that $16m team option.
But it will suck to lose all those 3 guys for nothing. |
As far as Rui, the Lakers will have to either give him the qualifying offer or they won't. If they do, then he will see what offers he can get on the marketplace. If it's better than the QO, we will have to decide whether to match or not.
Same thing with Beasley and Bamba. If we give them lesser offers I am sure they will scope out the marketplace.
So it will be less about whether they are willing to take less, then it will be if other teams are willing to offer more. |
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| activeverb wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | vasashi17+ wrote: | @Val, thx bro…and you’re right…it really doesn’t matter till it gets fixed up top. Still pretty wild that last season, we ate DJ & Ariza’s contracts that led to 14m in additional fees (dead cap salary + associated taxes) for ownership. And as a result, a 4yr extension was handed out…cause alignment reasons
This year tho, dude dumped nearly 62m (in salary + associated taxes). According to my math, he’s in line for a bagillion yr extension.
@AH: Yep, if things continue to trend as they are, I do see some cost cutting moves on the horizon.
@G: CRoo might be working in hyperbole, but he’s not entirely off base. If you give DLo and/or Rui just 5m more collectively between the two, then our tax bill goes up by nearly 22m. So if that sample cap sheet I posted earlier is somewhat similar to what we do, but either DLo gets a 30m deal or Rui gets a 15mish deal, then taxes would be around 90m with that hypothetical 190m in team salary.
We’d be close to that 100m tax bill that he’s suggesting if we’re about 27m over the tax line. So on a projected 165m tax threshold, if we have team salary in the 192mish range, we looking at that 100m tax bill.
| Quote: | Non-repeater Tax / Repeater Tax rates are as follows (total tax amounts for that tier are within parentheses) :
$0 - 4.99m ———> 1.5 (7.5m) / 2.5 (12.5m)
$5m - 9.99m ——> 1.75 (8.75m) / 2.75 (13.75m)
$10m - 14.99m —> 2.5 (12.5m) / 3.5 (17.5m)
$15m - 19.99m —> 3.25 (16.25m) / 4.25 (21.25m)
$20m - 24.99m —> 3.75 (18.75m) / 4.75 (23.75m)
$25m - 29.99m —> 4.25 (21.25m) / 5.25 (26.25m)
$30m - 34.99m —> 4.75 (23.75m) / 5.75 (28.75m)
$35m - 39.99m —> 5.25 (26.25m) / 6.25 (31.25m)
$40m - 44.99m —> 5.75 (28.75m) / 6.75 (33.75m)
$45m - 49.99m —> 6.25 (31.25m) / 7.25 (36.25m)
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I still think they will see if Beasley/Mo are willing to resign for less before they decide to just let them go. See if Rui will take $8.5m QO as a prove it deal type of year and to stay in LA. Mo has not really proven himself, he's not worth the $10.3m salary. Beasley have many chances to prove himself and I think has played himself out of that $16m team option.
But it will suck to lose all those 3 guys for nothing. |
As far as Rui, the Lakers will have to either give him the qualifying offer or they won't. If they do, then he will see what offers he can get on the marketplace. If it's better than the QO, we will have to decide whether to match or not.
Same thing with Beasley and Bamba. If we give them lesser offers I am sure they will scope out the marketplace.
So it will be less about whether they are willing to take less, then it will be if other teams are willing to offer more. |
Yea those are big factors too. But how many contending teams out there willing to offer them more or have the capspace to sign them what they are making right now. Unless those guys are willing to sign with lotto teams with plenty of capspace. |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Yea those are big factors too. But how many contending teams out there willing to offer them more or have the capspace to sign them what they are making right now. Unless those guys are willing to sign with lotto teams with plenty of capspace. |
Beware of the common message board ritual of posters convincing themselves that players will have no choice but to accept a lowball offer from their current team. Would these players take more money from a lottery team? Yes, in a heartbeat. So would you.
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We are a lottery team  .
It’s almost like you two are talking about the Lakers as if they were the #1 seed in the West. |
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Beware of honest answers, DeMarcus. You may not like them.
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“That’s honestly my biggest issue. That’s kind of the untold secret of the NBA,” Cousins said on SiriusXM Radio when asked why he doesn’t a get a job in the league. “I’m the type of guy that whenever I go through my hard times, my hardships, I look at myself first. What can I do to better myself? That’s something I pride myself on." |
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| Quote: | Porziņģis and the Wizards have been serious discussing a new deal in which he would opt out of his $36 million player option for the 2023-24 season and sign a new long-term deal, those sources say.
The Wizards, who have dealt with a variety of injuries and setbacks this season, are currently 34-42 and in 11th place in the Eastern Conference. They have decisions to make on the futures of Porziņģis and forward Kyle Kuzma.
The Wizards can offer Porziņģis a maximum of four years and $180 million if he opts out for next year and extends his deal. The deadline to reach such an agreement is in late June.
Because of salary limitations imposed by the collective bargaining agreement on veteran contract extensions, Kuzma is on track to decline his $13 million player option for the 2023-24 season and become an unrestricted free agent, though there is mutual interest in a new deal from both sides.
Porziņģis has averaged 23.2 points, 8.4 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.5 blocks over 65 appearances this season. Kuzma has averaged 21.2 points, 7.2 rebounds and 3.7 assists over 64 appearances. |
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I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley.
LeBron 46.7
AD 40.6
Kyrie 34
Reaves 11.36
Bamba 5
Rui 8.5
Vanderbilt 4.7
VM 1.77
Gabriel 3
Schroder 5
Christie 1.7
1st 3
2nd 1.1
Brown 3
Total-169.43/Hard cap at 170.4M
No Kyrie max
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I really have a hard time seeing the Lakers bring back Beas (16.5m) and Mo (10m) at their guaranteed amounts. Even if Lakers don't guarantee those amounts, we still have their Bird rights and theoretically could still retain them at a much lower annual price.
Rui is looking very iffy too in terms of the annual year amount (compounded by luxury/repeater tax amounts).
I think they'll focus on bringing back DLO/Reaves/Vando. We'd have as a starting point:
LBJ/AD/DLO/Reaves/Vando/Max/2023 FRP/2023 SRP.
I can see the Lakers bringing back Mo on a much more reasonable annual salary, like 5-6m/year. Beas, not sure. Probably at the TPMLE level right now. Then you have Rui, who probably wants $10m+/year but doubtful Lakers give that.
Then you have Wenyen (early Bird rights) and Dennis/TBJ (non-Bird rights).
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Yes they can. Do the math. That group is well underneath the luxury tax. In fact Vasahi broke down (it's a bit optimistic, the $ amount) how you can bring back a lot of these guys and still be under the line.
S&T for Kyrie at 45m+ is where it becomes almost impossible to bring back the same type of depth.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley.
LeBron 46.7
AD 40.6
Kyrie 34
Reaves 11.36
Bamba 5
Rui 8.5
Vanderbilt 4.7
VM 1.77
Gabriel 3
Schroder 5
Christie 1.7
1st 3
2nd 1.1
Brown 3
Total-169.43/Hard cap at 170.4M
No Kyrie max |
I think this is probably a plan. No way IMHO KI gets a max from anyone other than Cuban. If KI and DLO cost the same you go with KI as he is far superior.
He adds one more year to the window in Brons last next year. otherwise to come back with this same team would be a punt.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley.
LeBron 46.7
AD 40.6
Kyrie 34
Reaves 11.36
Bamba 5
Rui 8.5
Vanderbilt 4.7
VM 1.77
Gabriel 3
Schroder 5
Christie 1.7
1st 3
2nd 1.1
Brown 3
Total-169.43/Hard cap at 170.4M
No Kyrie max |
We'll see. I'm not convinced that the Lakers are as fixated on Kyrie as some Laker fans are. |
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Kyrie at 34m? That is overly optimistic as he apparently wants his full max deal, which starts at around 48m.
I'm opposed to S&T for Kyrie, but if he inexplicably took 34m, I might change my mind as that allows us to still build within the confines of a hard cap.
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| yinoma2001 wrote: | Kyrie at 34m? That is overly optimistic as he apparently wants his full max deal, which starts at around 48m.
I'm opposed to S&T for Kyrie, but if he inexplicably took 34m, I might change my mind as that allows us to still build within the confines of a hard cap. |
This! Look what’s happening with Lamar Jackson. Kyrie really is delusional if he thinks he’s getting a max deal from anyone. And I know he’s different and stubborn….but I don’t see him sitting out for a max deal. It’ll never happen. |
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| King Randle wrote: | | yinoma2001 wrote: | Kyrie at 34m? That is overly optimistic as he apparently wants his full max deal, which starts at around 48m.
I'm opposed to S&T for Kyrie, but if he inexplicably took 34m, I might change my mind as that allows us to still build within the confines of a hard cap. |
This! Look what’s happening with Lamar Jackson. Kyrie really is delusional if he thinks he’s getting a max deal from anyone. And I know he’s different and stubborn….but I don’t see him sitting out for a max deal. It’ll never happen. |
But Mavs are at a crossroads too. They can't just let Ky go. He will extract maximum $$$ from them. But hey, if the Mavs want DLO at that price (and DLO wants to go there), and Ky inexplicably takes $34m, I'm sure the Lakers would consider that.
But Ky at a S&T at $47-48m, I don't think we do that as this is the Westbrook 2.0 roster construction all over again.
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| dcarter4kobe wrote: | | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley. |
The scuttlebutt is that the front office isn't interested, but I wouldn't be surprised, either. However, getting Irving at $34M is unlikely. Getting Bamba at $5M and Hachimura at $8.5M would be problematic, too, but that would be easy compared to getting Irving to take a pay cut.
My prediction is that the Mavs will eventually make a deal with Irving. They are essentially pot-committed to him, which is the scenario that a lot of us feared would happen to us last offseason.
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley. |
The scuttlebutt is that the front office isn't interested, but I wouldn't be surprised, either. However, getting Irving at $34M is unlikely. Getting Bamba at $5M and Hachimura at $8.5M would be problematic, too, but that would be easy compared to getting Irving to take a pay cut.
My prediction is that the Mavs will eventually make a deal with Irving. They are essentially pot-committed to him, which is the scenario that a lot of us feared would happen to us last offseason. |
This is how I feel too. Luka isn't going to be happy to see them go in for KY, then just let him walk. I don't think DLO is a good fit for Dallas either (but a good one IMO for the Lakers).
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley. |
The scuttlebutt is that the front office isn't interested, but I wouldn't be surprised, either. However, getting Irving at $34M is unlikely. Getting Bamba at $5M and Hachimura at $8.5M would be problematic, too, but that would be easy compared to getting Irving to take a pay cut.
My prediction is that the Mavs will eventually make a deal with Irving. They are essentially pot-committed to him, which is the scenario that a lot of us feared would happen to us last offseason. |
Harden is the one that will most likely take a paycut to win. |
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| CRoost wrote: | | Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | dcarter4kobe wrote: | | I would not be surprised if the Lakers targeted Kyrie in a S&T around Dlo/Beasley. |
The scuttlebutt is that the front office isn't interested, but I wouldn't be surprised, either. However, getting Irving at $34M is unlikely. Getting Bamba at $5M and Hachimura at $8.5M would be problematic, too, but that would be easy compared to getting Irving to take a pay cut.
My prediction is that the Mavs will eventually make a deal with Irving. They are essentially pot-committed to him, which is the scenario that a lot of us feared would happen to us last offseason. |
Harden is the one that will most likely take a paycut to win. |
That's probably right. The idea of a Harden-Reaves backcourt is amusing. The rest of the league would be in a constant state of outrage.
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