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iimarshon
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I hope DLO opts in so we can use him for trade salary ballast but I dont think he will.
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Halflife
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| levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
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Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us.
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levon
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The one trade partner that makes sense for LeBron is the Knicks. He's surrounded by a hard-nosed culture, a ball-handling PG, a real coach, and a global megacity. Plus the team has more picks to spend for a third star.
Randle
Hart
Achiuwa
for LeBron
I don't like Randle's game but I think he's a good innings eater at the 4. Hart is obviously amazing. Achiuwa gives us a mobile 4/5 we can play next to AD, and just an energy backup big.
We'd then have to trade salary + picks for another top tier star to pair with AD. Don't really see such a player in any case. |
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CamReddish
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| Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
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Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
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Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
Hell no to Klay for matching Lebrons Salary. Take Kuminga,Wiggins or Chiris Paul and GP3 or something
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levon
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| Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
? |
Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
First of all, one of your players is a literal question mark.
Secondly, an inefficient guard + an over-the-hill movement shooter that's morphing into Bojan Bogdanovic without his backcourt mate + the Jordan Poole of power forwards who's had issues in the locker room multiple years, including this one, is not better than what we have now. |
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Halflife
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| levon wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
? |
Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
First of all, one of your players is a literal question mark.
Secondly, an inefficient guard + an over-the-hill movement shooter that's morphing into Bojan Bogdanovic without his backcourt mate + the Jordan Poole of power forwards who's had issues in the locker room multiple years, including this one, is not better than what we have now. |
ok moses moody. We have to get out from under bron. It seems like GSW is the best option for him. Their young guys are ready to flourish. Nothing we do outside of hitting a grandslam gets us near a ring. need youth, length and 2 way guys to compete in the west.
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miggz23
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| levon wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
? |
Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
First of all, one of your players is a literal question mark.
Secondly, an inefficient guard + an over-the-hill movement shooter that's morphing into Bojan Bogdanovic without his backcourt mate + the Jordan Poole of power forwards who's had issues in the locker room multiple years, including this one, is not better than what we have now. |
Seriously I don’t see Lebron being sign and traded… Not in his MO, he most likely just opts out, specially if it gets bad this offseason with the FO and AD.
Warriors can actually clear some cap for him if they want to. It won’t be a max contract. It will be a Harden like paycut. |
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levon
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| Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
? |
Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
First of all, one of your players is a literal question mark.
Secondly, an inefficient guard + an over-the-hill movement shooter that's morphing into Bojan Bogdanovic without his backcourt mate + the Jordan Poole of power forwards who's had issues in the locker room multiple years, including this one, is not better than what we have now. |
ok moses moody. We have to get out from under bron. It seems like GSW is the best option for him. Their young guys are ready to flourish. Nothing we do outside of hitting a grandslam gets us near a ring. need youth, length and 2 way guys to compete in the west. |
Yeah, let's trade LeBron for Moses Moody and a question mark. Good stuff. |
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Halflife
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| levon wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | levon wrote: | | CamReddish wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
S&T bron to GSW for Klay/Kuminga
Reaves/+ Pick + for Trae or Murray
Find a big for DLO/
Murray or Trae
Klay
Kuminga
AD
? |
Reeves makes 12 million and Tre over 40 million. Would need to send Reeves, Rui, Gabe, and Vandonor something. Or DLO, Rui, Gabe, JHS to march |
This poster knows that. Murray, Kumbucket, and the corpse of Klay Thompson for LeBron and picks. Or Trae instead of Murray with the rest of the depth and more picks gone. I refuse to believe that this is what people genuinely think will make the team better. |
Murray
Klay
kuminga
AD
?
Is light years better than what we have. We have sample size of what a healthy bron and AD net us. |
First of all, one of your players is a literal question mark.
Secondly, an inefficient guard + an over-the-hill movement shooter that's morphing into Bojan Bogdanovic without his backcourt mate + the Jordan Poole of power forwards who's had issues in the locker room multiple years, including this one, is not better than what we have now. |
ok moses moody. We have to get out from under bron. It seems like GSW is the best option for him. Their young guys are ready to flourish. Nothing we do outside of hitting a grandslam gets us near a ring. need youth, length and 2 way guys to compete in the west. |
Yeah, let's trade LeBron for Moses Moody and a question mark. Good stuff. |
no
Kuminga, Moody +. We can poo poo it. Reality is, we arent doing anything with him. havent since bubble. So we can continue this trend or we can try to get some functioning ascending guys.
AD needs 2 way guys that will focus the O through him. But of course we can keep the bron AD duo knowing one guy has no intentions of being the number 2 unless its a bailout. As Kmart said (NSFW) https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6KlPoNrQ64/
Sure its easy to blame Hamm only but he isnt the floor general.
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vasashi17+
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I’m sure most of y’all are already #familiar 😉, but our best chance at massively shaking up the roster was this past trade deadline when more lax trade rules of the previous CBA were still applicable.
This summer however the new trade rules transition in and it’s gonna take a whole lot of finessing the cap to force these trades to go thru.
That’s why I’m highly skeptical that our FO plans to purge our available assets for guys like Trae or Spida. Personally I’m not enamored with any those moves, but I’d go with Spida if push came to shove. However it’s gonna be a MFer to pull off and still round out the team accordingly, since trade aggregation of any sort triggers the 1st Apron hardcap @ 179m in team salary.
I’m going to repost the key elements of the new CBA below from the CBA Q&A thread.
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B. New Transaction Rules.
Teams will be subject to additional transaction rules related to the First Apron Level and Second Apron Level.
1. First Apron Level Rules.
In addition to the Tax Apron transaction rules in the current CBA, the following transaction rules will apply at the First Apron Level.
a. Signings – “Buyout” Players.
Teams will be unable to sign a player during a Regular Season if he was waived during that Regular Season and had a pre- waiver Salary for that year greater than the amount of that year’s Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Salary Exception.
b. Trades
i. Traded Player Exception (“TPE”) Multiplier
•During the period from July 1, 2023 through the last day of the 2023- 24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE in excess of 110% of the Salary of the Traded Player(s); and
•Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE in excess of 100% of the Salary of the Traded Player(s).
ii. Pre-Existing TPEs.
Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023- 24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE generated in a prior year. (For purposes of this rule, a “year” is measured from end of Regular Season to end of Regular Season.)
2. Second Apron Level Rules.
The following transaction rules will apply at the Second Apron Level.
a. Signings – Taxpayer MLE.
Teams will be unable to use the Taxpayer Mid- Level Salary Exception.
b. Trades.
Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to:
i. Aggregation.
Use a TPE generated by aggregating the Salaries of multiple Traded Players.
ii. Cash.
Convey cash to another team in a trade.
iii. Sign-and-Trade.
Acquire a Player Contract using a TPE in respect of a player whose Contract was traded pursuant to a sign-and-trade.
3. Administration of Transaction Rules
A. The transaction rules will work in the same manner as the Tax Apron rules set forth in the current CBA – i.e., a team with a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level will be unable to engage in the applicable transactions, and a team that engages in one or more of such transactions will be unable to subsequently have a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level in such Salary Cap Year.
B. A team that engages in any of the trade transactions described under the First and Second Apron Level rules above after the last day of the Regular Season of a Salary Cap Year will be unable to subsequently have a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level for the remainder of the then-current Salary Cap Year as well as for the immediately following Salary Cap Year. (Notwithstanding this general rule, there will be certain transition rules applicable to trade transactions occurring during the period from the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season through June 30, 2024.)
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Bron2AD
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trae young
vando
D Hunter
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levon
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Pie-in-the-sky
LeBron for Randle, Hart or Divi or Achiuwa, and a good FRP (in the middle of the season it was Randle + Fournier & 2+ picks)
Randle to a third team for another middling FRP and rotation role player
Armed with 5 FRP, the Lakers land a disgruntled Giannis
Reaves
Hart
Rui
Giannis
AD
It would still leave the cupboard dry since you'd have to likely include some of the younger guys as sweeteners, but that's a lot of size and physicality.
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anth2000
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| SGV-Laker fan wrote: | | anth2000 wrote: | Trae Young is NOT the answer.
Not at over $40 mill per year.
We need a Steven Adams/Zubac type of center.
Need a couple of strong 2-way players also.
Finesse doesn’t win you squat and I found Russell a finesse type of player.
Russell, Reaves, Lebron, even Rui, Prince, etc., are all lazy terrible defenders.
If we fire this lunkhead coach, be great to bring someone in who preaches defense.
I am also torn on Lebron. If he walks, I will thank him and move on. We need change. |
Good luck with that. Lakers will always have a roster full of entitled players, and a head coach whose main job is to please the stars and be Jeannie Buss’ yes man. Lakers are not like the Knicks, their fan base love ugly basketball, and is proud of it. It’s just not the Laker MO, not under this ownership. Last time we had a defensive minded coach in Mike brown, we chased him out very quickly. |
Agree, but Vogel was a good defensive minded coach as well and we got rid of him faster than we should have, in my opinion. |
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anth2000
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Trae Young is not the answer. He's really small, super turnover prone and is going to get smoked on defense all the time.
No, no, no......plus, at $40+ million? no thanks!! |
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mad55557777
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| vasashi17+ wrote: | I’m sure most of y’all are already #familiar 😉, but our best chance at massively shaking up the roster was this past trade deadline when more lax trade rules of the previous CBA were still applicable.
This summer however the new trade rules transition in and it’s gonna take a whole lot of finessing the cap to force these trades to go thru.
That’s why I’m highly skeptical that our FO plans to purge our available assets for guys like Trae or Spida. Personally I’m not enamored with any those moves, but I’d go with Spida if push came to shove. However it’s gonna be a MFer to pull off and still round out the team accordingly, since trade aggregation of any sort triggers the 1st Apron hardcap @ 179m in team salary.
I’m going to repost the key elements of the new CBA below from the CBA Q&A thread.
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B. New Transaction Rules.
Teams will be subject to additional transaction rules related to the First Apron Level and Second Apron Level.
1. First Apron Level Rules.
In addition to the Tax Apron transaction rules in the current CBA, the following transaction rules will apply at the First Apron Level.
a. Signings – “Buyout” Players.
Teams will be unable to sign a player during a Regular Season if he was waived during that Regular Season and had a pre- waiver Salary for that year greater than the amount of that year’s Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level Salary Exception.
b. Trades
i. Traded Player Exception (“TPE”) Multiplier
•During the period from July 1, 2023 through the last day of the 2023- 24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE in excess of 110% of the Salary of the Traded Player(s); and
•Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE in excess of 100% of the Salary of the Traded Player(s).
ii. Pre-Existing TPEs.
Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023- 24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to use a TPE generated in a prior year. (For purposes of this rule, a “year” is measured from end of Regular Season to end of Regular Season.)
2. Second Apron Level Rules.
The following transaction rules will apply at the Second Apron Level.
a. Signings – Taxpayer MLE.
Teams will be unable to use the Taxpayer Mid- Level Salary Exception.
b. Trades.
Beginning on the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season, teams will be unable to:
i. Aggregation.
Use a TPE generated by aggregating the Salaries of multiple Traded Players.
ii. Cash.
Convey cash to another team in a trade.
iii. Sign-and-Trade.
Acquire a Player Contract using a TPE in respect of a player whose Contract was traded pursuant to a sign-and-trade.
3. Administration of Transaction Rules
A. The transaction rules will work in the same manner as the Tax Apron rules set forth in the current CBA – i.e., a team with a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level will be unable to engage in the applicable transactions, and a team that engages in one or more of such transactions will be unable to subsequently have a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level in such Salary Cap Year.
B. A team that engages in any of the trade transactions described under the First and Second Apron Level rules above after the last day of the Regular Season of a Salary Cap Year will be unable to subsequently have a Team Salary that exceeds the applicable Apron level for the remainder of the then-current Salary Cap Year as well as for the immediately following Salary Cap Year. (Notwithstanding this general rule, there will be certain transition rules applicable to trade transactions occurring during the period from the day after the last day of the 2023-24 Regular Season through June 30, 2024.)
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i think our FO will want to purse spida or Young, but the issue is do we even have enough? Lakers fans obviously overating our own assets, but it take 2 to make a deal. there are people who still feels we over paid for AD even knowing we got a championship.
Spida and Young are both young and in their prime, so if either is available, Lakers should go for it. |
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FYI the Hawks watched the playoffs just like everyone else did.
Unless they know something we don't, they ain't gonna touch Reaves or Rui. 
Lakers are (bleeped) regardless of what they do. The org from the top down needs to be restructured, but if there's one move that will significantly push them in the right direction, it's moving on from LeDiva.
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mad55557777
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| Megaton wrote: | We need a Center and gor AD to go back at PF again.
AD at Center was an option when the team needed to play small ball. NOT AS A FULL TIME STARTING CENTER.
That's how we won 2020. Not just because of how big thr team was, buy because the team was big AND flexible where even our small ball was a big team. Capable of having size at every position at any given time.
We need AD to go back and PF and find a Center capable of doing the dirty work for us in building a brick wall in the paint and holding down the fort for rebounding. It's so (bleep) simple. |
we won in 2020 by using AD at the 5. if you don't believe me, watch the playoff highlights. the backup was Kieff at the 5. Dwight was used in the Denver series. yes, we won in regular season with twin towers, but that was a younger lebron and AD could still shoot back then. |
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| Palin wrote: | | mad55557777 wrote: | | crazylakerfan001 wrote: | Please get a big dont wont be pushed around. Jonas Valiciunas or similar. Try to revist the trade for lavine and caruso for rui and Dlo?
Caruso/reaves
Lavine/cristie
Vando/prince
Lebron/Wood
Ad/ Valiciunas |
You want lavine AND AC? The bulls would hang up quick. |
I don’t think Bulls happy with Lavine and his contract at all. |
yeah, but they know AC is valuable |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 10:32 am Post subject: |
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | FYI the Hawks watched the playoffs just like everyone else did.
Unless they know something we don't, they ain't gonna touch Reaves or Rui.
Lakers are (bleeped) regardless of what they do. The org from the top down needs to be restructured, but if there's one move that will significantly push them in the right direction, it's moving on from LeDiva. |
while i agree with this its not going to happen. unless the younger bros grow a pair |
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Palin
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:14 am Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | We need a Center and gor AD to go back at PF again.
AD at Center was an option when the team needed to play small ball. NOT AS A FULL TIME STARTING CENTER.
That's how we won 2020. Not just because of how big thr team was, buy because the team was big AND flexible where even our small ball was a big team. Capable of having size at every position at any given time.
We need AD to go back and PF and find a Center capable of doing the dirty work for us in building a brick wall in the paint and holding down the fort for rebounding. It's so (bleep) simple. |
we won in 2020 by using AD at the 5. if you don't believe me, watch the playoff highlights. the backup was Kieff at the 5. Dwight was used in the Denver series. yes, we won in regular season with twin towers, but that was a younger lebron and AD could still shoot back then. |
Yes Ad was center but who did we play against? Rockets with that super small lineup, Heat with only Bam who got hurt later. Only Denver had size and thats the series we needed Dwight to get mins plus we had defenders like Caruso, Green and KCP which helped AD to cover less space at defense. |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:22 am Post subject: |
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| mad55557777 wrote: | | Megaton wrote: | We need a Center and gor AD to go back at PF again.
AD at Center was an option when the team needed to play small ball. NOT AS A FULL TIME STARTING CENTER.
That's how we won 2020. Not just because of how big thr team was, buy because the team was big AND flexible where even our small ball was a big team. Capable of having size at every position at any given time.
We need AD to go back and PF and find a Center capable of doing the dirty work for us in building a brick wall in the paint and holding down the fort for rebounding. It's so (bleep) simple. |
we won in 2020 by using AD at the 5. if you don't believe me, watch the playoff highlights. the backup was Kieff at the 5. Dwight was used in the Denver series. yes, we won in regular season with twin towers, but that was a younger lebron and AD could still shoot back then. |
Using AD at the 5 for certain stretches is different than starting AD at the 5 or even playing AD exclusively at the 5. That ship team started JaVale/Dwight at C until the close out game. I think it should be understood that of course AD will play some at the 5. The point is that the Lakers now…like the ship team…need a C capable of playing with AD at the 4 to be most effective. Preferably that C could start but even if that C comes off the bench to play with AD with AD at the 4 it would be more helpful to the team with AD full time C only.
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JerryWest_44
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:37 am Post subject: |
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If true BYE BYE DLO
1) Sell the team
2) Get Meyers |
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Laker_Jocker
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:39 am Post subject: |
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Pipe dream but how about sending the old man back home (to pasture) -> LBJ, Christie/filler for Mitchell and Mobley
Then Rui + pick for Markannen or some other a legit big that can play with AD
Vincent/Spence
Mitchell/Reeves
Vando/Prince
Markannen/Mobley
AD/Hayes |
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Bron2AD
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| Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 11:50 am Post subject: |
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| Laker_Jocker wrote: | Pipe dream but how about sending the old man back home (to pasture) -> LBJ, Christie/filler for Mitchell and Mobley
Then Rui + pick for Markannen or some other a legit big that can play with AD
Vincent/Spence
Mitchell/Reeves
Vando/Prince
Markannen/Mobley
AD/Hayes |
How can a old man net u so much? I doubt we even get 1 of the guys u mentioned.
Probably j Allen is what u might get |
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