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EZ-Ryder
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| Inverse wrote: | Instead of giving up the reported haul for trae young, id rather divert it to New Orleans for BI who is seemingly on the trade block
AR+Rui+Gabe+2 FRP's for BI
Then Bring back DLO on a 3 year deal and you have a lineup of
DLO
BI
Vando
LeBron
AD
Pelicans have always been happy to take our picks, and they might think our picks a few years down the line are going to be worth way more than other potential trading partners who would be interested in Ingram's services. They also get a solid starting point in Gabe and a potential replacement for CJ in AR.
Think its potentially a good trade for both teams
Tl;dr - BI over Trae unless you can somehow bring both trae and OG (or player of similar archetype) together |
Ingram is the only player I want to see us trade multiple picks for. Trae and Mitchell would be a waste of time and assets |
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BEazy
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| Want no part of Dejounte Murray. I really don't want another guard that can't shoot on this squad. |
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| Posted: Wed May 01, 2024 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| BEazy wrote: | | Want no part of Dejounte Murray. I really don't want another guard that can't shoot on this squad. |
Especially when we have Reaves already. To be honest, Reaves defense on Jamal Murray makes me feel that he has value as a defender still. We saw that kind of defense last off-season too and was wondering where it was during the season when people hunted him.
Reaves just needs to get stronger in the off-season so other players can't bully him off his spot like this year.
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| pjiddy wrote: | The Warriors will try to get Durant first, but i think they could theoretically trade Wiggins and Chris Paul + Picks for Lebron and then not have to give up Kuminga (they're not giving us Kuminga for 40 year old Lebron, come on).
Chris Paul can be waived. Or could be traded to another team looking to duck the apron in exchange for a pick? Wiggins we could hopefully rehab his value a bit. There will be a contender that will take a flyer on him and 25-26 million isn't that much these days. You could maybe get two firsts out of it. |
You think a Lebron/Curry team could win a title? I dont. |
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Why all this KD talk? Is it because he asked for a trade again? I highly doubt the Suns are willing to move KD. He is probably their closest to a 2-way player of any of their big 3. Closest to an actual championship player. I mean the guy is not just an elite scorer, but he's capable to use his length to rim protect, and challenge shots.
Unless they get back 2-3 first rounders, plus 2 starters, not sure they even entertain the idea. Would a team be willing to give all that up for a 36 year old next season? The KD decline is coming real soon, he's already on decline, but not as obvious. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | KareemRushForThree wrote: | | The Lakers are not trading LeBron. Any LeBron trade posts are a waste of time. |
It depends on if he wants to go somewhere else. The fact they asked him if he wanted to go to GS shows they’re willing to do that. |
Not going to happen and especially not with the CP3 scenario. Lol
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 7:26 am Post subject: |
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| wolfpaclaker wrote: | Why all this KD talk? Is it because he asked for a trade again? I highly doubt the Suns are willing to move KD. He is probably their closest to a 2-way player of any of their big 3. Closest to an actual championship player. I mean the guy is not just an elite scorer, but he's capable to use his length to rim protect, and challenge shots.
Unless they get back 2-3 first rounders, plus 2 starters, not sure they even entertain the idea. Would a team be willing to give all that up for a 36 year old next season? The KD decline is coming real soon, he's already on decline, but not as obvious. |
Media folks are speculating because Phoenix flamed out and they can’t/wont trade Beal or Booker. These shows need stuff to talk about. He’s not going anywhere.
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| ocho wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Why all this KD talk? Is it because he asked for a trade again? I highly doubt the Suns are willing to move KD. He is probably their closest to a 2-way player of any of their big 3. Closest to an actual championship player. I mean the guy is not just an elite scorer, but he's capable to use his length to rim protect, and challenge shots.
Unless they get back 2-3 first rounders, plus 2 starters, not sure they even entertain the idea. Would a team be willing to give all that up for a 36 year old next season? The KD decline is coming real soon, he's already on decline, but not as obvious. |
Media folks are speculating because Phoenix flamed out and they can’t/wont trade Beal or Booker. These shows need stuff to talk about. He’s not going anywhere. |
The Suns have never won a title, they are going to continue to go all in with this current roster and add around the margins with a PG for the MLE. Give it another run next year. |
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levon
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| I'm willing to bet KD doesn't end his career on the Suns. Maybe doesn't even end next season on the Suns. |
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| Dominic1981 wrote: | | pjiddy wrote: | The Warriors will try to get Durant first, but i think they could theoretically trade Wiggins and Chris Paul + Picks for Lebron and then not have to give up Kuminga (they're not giving us Kuminga for 40 year old Lebron, come on).
Chris Paul can be waived. Or could be traded to another team looking to duck the apron in exchange for a pick? Wiggins we could hopefully rehab his value a bit. There will be a contender that will take a flyer on him and 25-26 million isn't that much these days. You could maybe get two firsts out of it. |
You think a Lebron/Curry team could win a title? I dont. |
Doesn’t matter what i think. Depends on if Lebron/Curry think so. Lebron i can see having pause knowing whatever team he goes to, they need a big that can defend Jokic. He can superteam with Curry/Dray or Luka/Kyrie, but he probably figures neither team has the size to slow down Jokic. If he really wanted to win, the only plausible options i see are Philly and Minny. Can’t see him going to either of those places since there’s no narrative for him, so yes, i think he tries to come back to LA and use the threat of him leaving to go all-in with a Mitchell trade. Maybe they can get Brook Lopez. I wouldn’t hate it. |
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| ocho wrote: | | wolfpaclaker wrote: | Why all this KD talk? Is it because he asked for a trade again? I highly doubt the Suns are willing to move KD. He is probably their closest to a 2-way player of any of their big 3. Closest to an actual championship player. I mean the guy is not just an elite scorer, but he's capable to use his length to rim protect, and challenge shots.
Unless they get back 2-3 first rounders, plus 2 starters, not sure they even entertain the idea. Would a team be willing to give all that up for a 36 year old next season? The KD decline is coming real soon, he's already on decline, but not as obvious. |
Media folks are speculating because Phoenix flamed out and they can’t/wont trade Beal or Booker. These shows need stuff to talk about. He’s not going anywhere. |
The reason would be they have no way to improve the team. They have no picks, and they can’t sign anyone other than minimum guys. They’re not good enough to get ring chasers. All they can do is run the same team back with new vet mins and maybe a new coach. Trading Durant could net them multiple assets and/or a player that gives them something Booker/Beal don’t and round out at the team better, rather than just 3 scorers, 2 of which will always grumble they’re not being used right. |
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| Ingram is an interesting idea. Big upgrade over Rui. But he has been very injury prone and i wonder how much he embraces being a third banana. But he is potentially a nuggets-trading-for-Gordon type move. |
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KareemRushForThree
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Can we get Jonas Valanciunas for the NTPMLE?
Time to move AD to the 4 and Bron back to the 3. Go back to the 2020/2021 model. We got stops against Denver, giving up offensive rebounds killed us. |
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| pjiddy wrote: | | Ingram is an interesting idea. Big upgrade over Rui. But he has been very injury prone and i wonder how much he embraces being a third banana. But he is potentially a nuggets-trading-for-Gordon type move. |
him and Gordon are very different players, and BI is somewhat a terrible fit next to Lebron and AD. it could work depends on who our guards are, but i think we should go for an attacking guard in oppose to someone like BI. i think Rui is just fine (outside of the playoffs this year) |
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| KareemRushForThree wrote: | Can we get Jonas Valanciunas for the NTPMLE?
Time to move AD to the 4 and Bron back to the 3. Go back to the 2020/2021 model. We got stops against Denver, giving up offensive rebounds killed us. |
gordon got those rebounds mostly due to him being matched up against our guards(who are terrible rebounders, and Rui, who are below average). the days of Lebron playing 3 on defense is over, and Jonas is way to slow to rotate. he can be the backup to AD or play twin towers while Lebron is off the court, but i don't see frontcourt of Lebron/AD/Jonas work. we will need AG type of players to play next to LBJ/AD, not slow footed center |
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I wouldn't mind having Dejounte Murray.
I wouldn't mind spinning the block on Brandon Ingram.
Lauri Markkanen is a sleeper and I think that Danny Aines would do it for draft capital. |
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| Ingram was dealing with injuries almost all season long that’s why he couldn’t lead the Pelicans enough in the playoffs without Zion |
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| Outspoken wrote: | I wouldn't mind having Dejounte Murray.
I wouldn't mind spinning the block on Brandon Ingram.
Lauri Markkanen is a sleeper and I think that Danny Aines would do it for draft capital. |
No thanks to Ingrams. Always hurt, always chucks shots up and disappears majorly in games.
He’s not the answer. |
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| EZ-Ryder wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | Instead of giving up the reported haul for trae young, id rather divert it to New Orleans for BI who is seemingly on the trade block
AR+Rui+Gabe+2 FRP's for BI
Then Bring back DLO on a 3 year deal and you have a lineup of
DLO
BI
Vando
LeBron
AD
Pelicans have always been happy to take our picks, and they might think our picks a few years down the line are going to be worth way more than other potential trading partners who would be interested in Ingram's services. They also get a solid starting point in Gabe and a potential replacement for CJ in AR.
Think its potentially a good trade for both teams
Tl;dr - BI over Trae unless you can somehow bring both trae and OG (or player of similar archetype) together |
Ingram is the only player I want to see us trade multiple picks for. Trae and Mitchell would be a waste of time and assets |
Amend this to include Daniels, likely that last pick, and you have a guard that can rebound, which let's AD get downcourt far more quickly.
Lebron could go, but I would venture that he goes back to the Cavs to finish off his career. That's Mitchell and Allen, completing AD's wish to move to the 4.
A starting 5 of Mitchell, Daniels, Ingram, AD and Allen with Vando and Christie off the bench sounds competitive...
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| BEazy wrote: | | Want no part of Dejounte Murray. I really don't want another guard that can't shoot on this squad. |
agreed, Murray's game is similar to Westbrook's with a tad better on mid range jump shot. enough with guards already, we all know LeBron will ALWAYS be dominating the ball no matter what he says publicly. this team needs size in the worst way. a bruising physical center and a 6'8" and above wing should be the priority this summer. |
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| anth2000 wrote: | | Outspoken wrote: | I wouldn't mind having Dejounte Murray.
I wouldn't mind spinning the block on Brandon Ingram.
Lauri Markkanen is a sleeper and I think that Danny Aines would do it for draft capital. |
No thanks to Ingrams. Always hurt, always chucks shots up and disappears majorly in games.
He’s not the answer. |
I wouldn't even want Ingram in a pure rebuilding situation.
The guy is a bad off-ball player, and is not good enough to dominate the ball on a contender. He doesn't play defense and is an inconsistent shooter.
People just want former Lakers back on the team. That has to be the reason why he's being recommended.
I just don't get it. People get attached to these players their teams drafted and developed. |
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Does Markannen solve a problem or create an interesting solution to problems we may not have?
The latter is how we've been operating in every season of Rob's tenure outside of 2020. |
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| urbanturban wrote: | | EZ-Ryder wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | Instead of giving up the reported haul for trae young, id rather divert it to New Orleans for BI who is seemingly on the trade block
AR+Rui+Gabe+2 FRP's for BI
Then Bring back DLO on a 3 year deal and you have a lineup of
DLO
BI
Vando
LeBron
AD
Pelicans have always been happy to take our picks, and they might think our picks a few years down the line are going to be worth way more than other potential trading partners who would be interested in Ingram's services. They also get a solid starting point in Gabe and a potential replacement for CJ in AR.
Think its potentially a good trade for both teams
Tl;dr - BI over Trae unless you can somehow bring both trae and OG (or player of similar archetype) together |
Ingram is the only player I want to see us trade multiple picks for. Trae and Mitchell would be a waste of time and assets |
Amend this to include Daniels, likely that last pick, and you have a guard that can rebound, which let's AD get downcourt far more quickly.
Lebron could go, but I would venture that he goes back to the Cavs to finish off his career. That's Mitchell and Allen, completing AD's wish to move to the 4.
A starting 5 of Mitchell, Daniels, Ingram, AD and Allen with Vando and Christie off the bench sounds competitive... |
If Lebron goes back to Cleveland it'll be in free agency. The Cavs owe him nothing at this point and trading valuable pieces for a 40 year old player doesn't make sense, even if it is Lebron. If the Cavs trade those guys it should be to get better long term, not to give Lebron a send off tour. |
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| Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| EZ-Ryder wrote: | | Inverse wrote: | Instead of giving up the reported haul for trae young, id rather divert it to New Orleans for BI who is seemingly on the trade block
AR+Rui+Gabe+2 FRP's for BI
Then Bring back DLO on a 3 year deal and you have a lineup of
DLO
BI
Vando
LeBron
AD
Pelicans have always been happy to take our picks, and they might think our picks a few years down the line are going to be worth way more than other potential trading partners who would be interested in Ingram's services. They also get a solid starting point in Gabe and a potential replacement for CJ in AR.
Think its potentially a good trade for both teams
Tl;dr - BI over Trae unless you can somehow bring both trae and OG (or player of similar archetype) together |
Ingram is the only player I want to see us trade multiple picks for. Trae and Mitchell would be a waste of time and assets |
yeah lets go get lonzo ball too
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Ingram is like a poor mans Paul George who is always hurt and yall want to give up multiple picks?? |
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