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LongBeachPoly
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So tired of the same things over and over:
| Quote: | 1) Most of the team batting around .200
2) Starters can't go 5ip
3) BP is so shaky
4) Every team steals bases vs. us
5) We don't steal bases
6) Defense is shaky |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Juan Soto's pretty hot right now:
5/5 last night
2/3 today
So, 7/8 last 2 games. Here are his numbers now:
| Quote: | .271 avg
.424 obp
.486 slg
.910 ops |
Here are his numbers 2 days ago:
| Quote: | .248 avg
.411 obp
.466 slg
.877 slg |
Looks like the Padres struck gold by signing Gary Sanchez from the EDD office:
| Quote: | 10 games
32 AB
5 HR
11 RBI
.289 avg
.333 obp
.737 slg
1.070 ops |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 7:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Corbin Carroll's 8/111 extension is looking like it might be the deal of the century for the Dbacks. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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After an 0-for-4 tonight, Mike Trout is down to .258, the same average as Mookie Betts. And Betts' OBP is 7 points higher and his SLG is a whopping 53 points higher.
Baseball Reference WAR: Betts 2.6, Trout 2.2
Fangraphs WAR: Betts 2.7, Trout 2.1 |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | After an 0-for-4 tonight, Mike Trout is down to .258, the same average as Mookie Betts. And Betts' OBP is 7 points higher and his SLG is a whopping 53 points higher.
Baseball Reference WAR: Betts 2.6, Trout 2.2
Fangraphs WAR: Betts 2.7, Trout 2.1 |
Looks like Trout's no longer close to being the best player in MLB. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| DuncanIdaho wrote: | | Corbin Carroll's 8/111 extension is looking like it might be the deal of the century for the Dbacks. |
Interesting. I love numbers so let's take a look at what the D'backs saved with this extension.
He's a rookie this yr, so they had 6 years of control over him.
They bought out 2 of his free agent yrs + they have an option for a 3rd free agent yr for $28M (or $5M buyout).
So, potentially 9 yrs for $134M or (8 yrs $111M as mentioned).
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First, what's the most that a player can make in their first 6 yrs?
Let's take a look at Juan Soto as a super 2 for example.
(I don't think Corbin Carroll qualifies for super 2 status since he only played 32 games last yr. For comparison's sake, Soto played 118 games in his first partial non-full year)
| Quote: | Year 1: min - $600k
Year 2: min - $650k
Year 3: arbitration ($8.5M)
Year 4: arbitration ($17M)
Year 5: arbitration ($23M)
Year 6: arbitration (~$32M)
Total: $81.7M for his first 6 yrs (with super 2 status) |
Note: Estimating Soto's arbitration award for next year.
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So, let's find an example of a recent super star who didn't have super 2 status (and stayed healthy all 6 years):
I think Aaron Judge is a very good comparison. He only played 27 games his first partial non-full year. Carroll played 32 games. Judge didn't get super 2 status and neither will Carroll:
| Quote: | Year 1: min - $550k
Year 2: min - $620k
Year 3: min - $680k
Year 4: arbitration ($8.5M)
Year 5: arbitration ($10.2M)
Year 6: arbitration ($19M)
Total: $39.55M for his first 6 yrs |
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So, getting back to Carroll, we know that his last 3 free agent years were bought out for $28M per year. (Last one being an option year w/ a $5M buyout).
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/arizona-diamondbacks/corbin-carroll-30414/
So his first 6 yrs are worth $50M. It should come out close to the following:
| Quote: | Year 1: min - $700k
Year 2: min - $750k
Year 3: min - $800k
Year 4: arbitration ($10M)
Year 5: arbitration ($15M)
Year 6: arbitration ($22.75M)
Total: $50M for his first 6 yrs |
How much would he potentially be worth 6 years from now? $45M? Let's say $45M.
$45M x 3 = $135M
D'backs paid: $28M x 3 = $84M
So, they ended up saving $51M potentially. But they took on alot of risks because they guaranteed him $111M when they had control over him for 6 yrs on non-guaranteed 1 yr deals.
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Angels young fireballer Ben Joyce, who was just recently called up, had to leave the game today in the 6th inning after experiencing numbness in his fingers and forearm. That doesn't sound good at all. Could be another guy trying to break the radar gun on every pitch who succumbs to injury. |
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LongBeachPoly
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| ChickenStu wrote: | | Angels young fireballer Ben Joyce, who was just recently called up, had to leave the game today in the 6th inning after experiencing numbness in his fingers and forearm. That doesn't sound good at all. Could be another guy trying to break the radar gun on every pitch who succumbs to injury. |
Yeah, throwing it 105mph isn't good for the arm. |
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ChickenStu
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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Also worth noting that Ohtani has been pretty ordinary over his last few starts, and his fastball velo was even down a little bit tonight. He gave up 3 ER in 5 IP and his ERA has ticked up over 3.30 now.
As a hitter, he's sporting a .919 OPS. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Nice clean first inning for Miller. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:30 pm Post subject: |
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| This ump is everywhere with his calls. |
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DuncanIdaho
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | | This ump is everywhere with his calls. |
Absolutely terrible so far |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Our guys are chasing while they are not. It's going to be a tough game to win.
Also they are making contact with Miller's heaters. I think it's bothering him so he is tip toeing around the strike zone hoping to get some chases. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Mookie comes through with a hit to score Outman!!!
Dodgers 1-0
Freeman with a hit to score Mookie.
Dodgers 2-0 |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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| 2-0 Dodgers giving Miller some breathing room. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | 2-0 Dodgers giving Miller some breathing room. |
He needs to challenge them. They are not chasing.
Edit: Soon as I say this Castellanos chases. LOL |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Harper is no match for Miller. Hits in to a double play. |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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Peralta with a solo shot!!! He got all of it and he knew it.
Dodgers 3-0 |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Another fantastic outing for Miller. No runs 6ip. |
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JerryWest_44
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Hoping the BP doesn’t implode |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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Mookie comes through when it matters. Rbi single.
Dodgers 4-0 |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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| JerryWest_44 wrote: | | Hoping the BP doesn’t implode |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:09 pm Post subject: |
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Wild pitch.
Dodgers 6-0 |
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aprevo15
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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JD Martinez with a 3 run shot!!!!!
Dodgers 9-0. |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2023 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| aprevo15 wrote: | JD Martinez with a 3 run shot!!!!!
Dodgers 9-0. |
We can now bring Syndi for relief duty |
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