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CamReddish
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He can't even catch the ball in the run or finish around the rim, and no heart to rebound
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Brawn13
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| He’s just too slow for this matchup. All the guards are too quick for him and he’s too small for Jokic. |
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JustaObserver
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:42 am Post subject: |
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| The man had a bad game..it happens |
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dcarter4kobe
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:45 am Post subject: |
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He is in his head.
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MJST
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:49 am Post subject: |
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The no effort on rebounding.
The non effort on layups.
The soft dunk attempts.
The getting lost on defense.
The lack of offense.
The lack of offensive aggression.
All these things have been Rui Hachimura the first 2 games, and he HAS been empowered by Ham unlike Dinwiddie and Vincent, so he's been the biggest disappointment thus far.
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Brawn13
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| MJST wrote: | The no effort on rebounding.
The non effort on layups.
The soft dunk attempts.
The getting lost on defense.
The lack of offense.
The lack of offensive aggression.
All these things have been Rui Hachimura the first 2 games, and he HAS been empowered by Ham unlike Dinwiddie and Vincent, so he's been the biggest disappointment thus far. |
He had a lot of these flaws in Washington. If he could just be better and not constantly make these mistakes…we wouldn’t have gotten him for 2nd round picks.
This goes for all our players. Everyone has flaws and makes mistakes. But Denver inherently has less flaws and makes less mistakes than us because they have the better players. Simple really. |
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ThePageDude
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Brawn13 wrote: |
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He had a lot of these flaws in Washington. If he could just be better and not constantly make these mistakes…we wouldn’t have gotten him for 2nd round picks.
This goes for all our players. Everyone has flaws and makes mistakes. But Denver inherently has less flaws and makes less mistakes than us because they have the better players. Simple really. |
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Itsowheeze
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| He doesn't even really need to score alot. If he rebounds. I think he lets his scoring dictate the type of game he is going to have. He needs to just mentally focus. He doesn't need to lock down Jokic. Just understand your assignment and stop being lost on defense. He doesn't put in enough effort into boxing out consistently. |
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miggz23
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Itsowheeze wrote: | | He doesn't even really need to score alot. If he rebounds. I think he lets his scoring dictate the type of game he is going to have. He needs to just mentally focus. He doesn't need to lock down Jokic. Just understand your assignment and stop being lost on defense. He doesn't put in enough effort into boxing out consistently. |
Actually he does need to score... 3pts in 37mins is not going to cut it. Most of his shots are wide open too. No excuse for blowing easy bunnies also.
Huge drop off so far from regular season Rui.
Our defense was fine yesterday... We held the Nuggets to 101pts. Its our offensive execution that needs to wake up. |
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| CamReddish wrote: | | He can't even catch the ball in the run or finish around the rim, and no heart to rebound |
He was great finishing around the rim all season. Finished through contact...all that.
Dude is just crumbling under pressure these last two games.
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It seems like folks here forgot that he was guarding Jokic practically the whole game.
Did some of you miss that?
That would take a lot out of someone physically.
"Crumbling under pressure" - Huh? He was guarding Jokic. That will effect your offensive game when you are using all your energy at the defensive end.
Not defending Rui, but some of you are way off. |
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miggz23
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| anth2000 wrote: | It seems like folks here forgot that he was guarding Jokic practically the whole game.
Did some of you miss that?
That would take a lot out of someone physically.
"Crumbling under pressure" - Huh? He was guarding Jokic. That will effect your offensive game when you are using all your energy at the defensive end.
Not defending Rui, but some of you are way off. |
Let's be real tho... Guarding Jokic has been a collective effort from AD/Bron/Rui. Rui is not doing it on his own.
He is also not being asked to carry the offense like Bron/AD/DLO at times AR. We are just simply just asking him to knock down shots he was knocking down in the regular season. |
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Itsowheeze
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:46 pm Post subject: |
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| miggz23 wrote: | | Itsowheeze wrote: | | He doesn't even really need to score alot. If he rebounds. I think he lets his scoring dictate the type of game he is going to have. He needs to just mentally focus. He doesn't need to lock down Jokic. Just understand your assignment and stop being lost on defense. He doesn't put in enough effort into boxing out consistently. |
Actually he does need to score... 3pts in 37mins is not going to cut it. Most of his shots are wide open too. No excuse for blowing easy bunnies also.
Huge drop off so far from regular season Rui.
Our defense was fine yesterday... We held the Nuggets to 101pts. It's our offensive execution that needs to wake up. |
Ok would you rather RUI have 8 points and 10 rebounds or 10 points and 2 rebounds. Based on the game last night which one of those stat lines would have helped us with the W. |
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miggz23
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| Itsowheeze wrote: | | miggz23 wrote: | | Itsowheeze wrote: | | He doesn't even really need to score alot. If he rebounds. I think he lets his scoring dictate the type of game he is going to have. He needs to just mentally focus. He doesn't need to lock down Jokic. Just understand your assignment and stop being lost on defense. He doesn't put in enough effort into boxing out consistently. |
Actually he does need to score... 3pts in 37mins is not going to cut it. Most of his shots are wide open too. No excuse for blowing easy bunnies also.
Huge drop off so far from regular season Rui.
Our defense was fine yesterday... We held the Nuggets to 101pts. It's our offensive execution that needs to wake up. |
Ok would you rather RUI have 8 points and 10 rebounds or 10 points and 2 rebounds. Based on the game last night which one of those stat lines would have helped us with the W. |
I'll take either one... Both those stat lines would have won us the game last night.
I mean both were better than 3pts and 5rebs. |
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Itsowheeze
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| His lack of rebounding for a forward will be what limits his growth as a player. Rui disengages when he doesn't have plays ran for him or he isn't scoring. SMH |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 9:20 am Post subject: |
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| As I said before the season started... he doesn't have that fire. His play will be up and down because he does not seem to want it as bad as other players. |
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Brawn13
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| defense wrote: | | As I said before the season started... he doesn't have that fire. His play will be up and down because he does not seem to want it as bad as other players. |
And that’s why we got him for cheap |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | As I said before the season started... he doesn't have that fire. His play will be up and down because he does not seem to want it as bad as other players. |
And that’s why we got him for cheap |
Rui averaged 12.2ppg on 48.7% from 3pt playoffs last year
5ppg/25% from 3pt playoffs this year
Dinwiddie averaged 16.5ppg on 38.9% from 3pt playoffs last year
0ppg/0% from 3pt playoffs this year
Vincent averaged 12.7ppg on 37.8% from 3pt playoffs last year
0ppg/0% from 3pt playoffs this year
Wood averaged 16.6ppg on 37.6% from 3pt last season (no post season)
6.9ppg/30.7% this season (no post season yet)
When I see so many players performing so far below their production last year I can’t help but wonder if it’s something else in common other than just all these players falling off that much. Some players decline sure, but this many? Some players decline below previous levels but this much?
All were obtained for cheaper than expected so perhaps their previous teams realized their success was fool’s gold and not sustainable so the players were abandoned before they were exposed. Perhaps it’s how they are used/misused by the coaching staff. Who knows?
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Lakesh0wtime
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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Rui is capable of much more.
Hopefully coming back to LA will get him going.
We badly need his production |
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dcarter4kobe
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 5:16 am Post subject: |
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| Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Brawn13 wrote: | | defense wrote: | | As I said before the season started... he doesn't have that fire. His play will be up and down because he does not seem to want it as bad as other players. |
And that’s why we got him for cheap |
Rui averaged 12.2ppg on 48.7% from 3pt playoffs last year
5ppg/25% from 3pt playoffs this year
Dinwiddie averaged 16.5ppg on 38.9% from 3pt playoffs last year
0ppg/0% from 3pt playoffs this year
Vincent averaged 12.7ppg on 37.8% from 3pt playoffs last year
0ppg/0% from 3pt playoffs this year
Wood averaged 16.6ppg on 37.6% from 3pt last season (no post season)
6.9ppg/30.7% this season (no post season yet)
When I see so many players performing so far below their production last year I can’t help but wonder if it’s something else in common other than just all these players falling off that much. Some players decline sure, but this many? Some players decline below previous levels but this much?
All were obtained for cheaper than expected so perhaps their previous teams realized their success was fool’s gold and not sustainable so the players were abandoned before they were exposed. Perhaps it’s how they are used/misused by the coaching staff. Who knows? |
A combination of things I'm sure. The main being their usage rate.
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Theseus
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:17 am Post subject: |
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Playoff Rui needs to make an appearance. He looks too reticent to shoot from distance. He seems to try faking without a real attempt at driving after so it leads to nothing. He needs to be aggressive like he was last playoffs.
Hard to do with how much he is frozen out of the offense sometimes, but he has done it many times before, don't lose it now. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Trade chip this summer for a 3rd star. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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Rui come on Fam
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| Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Bye bye
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| And you see why Kuzna took his role and his money in Washington |
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