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| Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
Well that's all well and good, but AD is always hurt. In the past 2 seasons he's surely well below 50% when it comes to games where he's looked fully healthy and engaged. |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | Fish, speaking truth in the after show |
What did Fish say? Did he lay into AD? |
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| ingle wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
Well that's all well and good, but AD is always hurt. In the past 2 seasons he's surely well below 50% when it comes to games where he's looked fully healthy and engaged. |
That’s it just dismiss what he said |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
So now we’re blaming Anthony Davis for losing Bryant OK |
Yessss ... TB wasnt getting playing time over AD coming back as Center...go look it up..its all over media..but also TB left because Lakers wernt going to be able to afford him as he did that well to raise his stock. |
You can put a lot on AD - but you can't put TB wanting to leave because he wasn't getting enough time. And the other dude is right - AD has never wanted to play center. Having said that - WG was out there for stretches with him -- something Darvin neglected to do when TB was here.
Effort is the only thing I think most of us are talking about - we can see all the other issues and what he can and can not control |
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| ingle wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Fish, speaking truth in the after show |
What did Fish say? Did he lay into AD? |
You would think that |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Welp. It looks like we have our new scapegoat. |
Yeah, it’s called having half a team |
It's not that, it's the fact this the perfect game to show everyone who AD is. Instead he just rolls over and gives a half effort instead of being a leader.
Did Kobe roll over and give up when Shaq fouled out in the Finals? No, he made that his moment and put everyone on notice. Maybe I'm a little spoiled, growing up watching Kobe give his 110% every game. This is supposed to be our franchise player, yet he can't even show up and try to match a former MVP level. |
Name the amount of times that Kobe Bryant fouled out of a game you’re embarrassing yourself |
AD wasn't in foul trouble in the 1st half yet there still was no sign of urgency from him. Wheres the 28/12 player we traded our future for? We are in 13th place for crying out loud. Every game is a must win if we even want to make the play in.
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| ingle wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
Well that's all well and good, but AD is always hurt. In the past 2 seasons he's surely well below 50% when it comes to games where he's looked fully healthy and engaged. |
His injuries are a shame, for sure. I wish for better luck with him being healthy. But that doesn't have anything to do with his effort. |
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| Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
You do know that AD can post others up and do fadeaways too and shoot midrange? If your Three ball not falling..hmmm maybe you need to get closer the the basket like the post. He dont need alleyups to make his points. He can play in the post and post people up too. Post up....maybe..now here is a idea..play the 4 and let Weyven grab rebounds and secure the center position.. I dont like this as the team has created this small ball syndrome junk that has got us nowhere but for tonight it was what it is. Also creat pick and rolls with Shro and AR who had it going..but nope....not AD..D..D. |
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Lakesh0wtime
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AD IS NOT PUTTING HIMSELF AT CENTER.
Holy crap STFU |
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| Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
Him and James got together with WB and AD decided to play center position. Go look it up..thats what media outlets been reported. This should have stop like last year..but nope the coach and LBJ and even Davis should see that its not working..but we got a coach that kept putting 3 undersized guards in at the same time.soooooo....smh. |
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| E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Welp. It looks like we have our new scapegoat. |
Yeah, it’s called having half a team |
It's not that, it's the fact this the perfect game to show everyone who AD is. Instead he just rolls over and gives a half effort instead of being a leader.
Did Kobe roll over and give up when Shaq fouled out in the Finals? No, he made that his moment and put everyone on notice. Maybe I'm a little spoiled, growing up watching Kobe give his 110% every game. This is supposed to be our franchise player, yet he can't even show up and try to match a former MVP level. |
Name the amount of times that Kobe Bryant fouled out of a game you’re embarrassing yourself |
AD wasn't in foul trouble in the 1st half yet there still was no sign of urgency from him. Wheres the 28/12 player we traded our future for? We are in 13th place for crying out loud. Every game is a must win if we even want to make the play in. |
The player you traded your future for already won you a championship and is coming off injury and was in foul trouble in the game. You do know that you have to manage fouls right you have to be careful because if you get 6 you can no longer play the game. Let me see if I can break this down so you can actually understand it. Also, the player that you traded your future for had an outstanding game against these Bucs earlier in the season and we are one and one on the year with thrm Just thought I’d point that out since it seems to have slipped your mind. |
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| Lakesh0wtime wrote: | AD IS NOT PUTTING HIMSELF AT CENTER.
Holy crap STFU |
He asked to be moved to the center position when WB came....geeez...smh. |
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| Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore
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@polarbear save your time and energy bro.
Critical thinking and logic doesn’t come easily to some people here. |
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
You do know that AD can post others up and do fadeaways too and shoot midrange? If your Three ball not falling..hmmm maybe you need to get closer the the basket like the post. He dont need alleyups to make his points. He can play in the post and post people up too. Post up....maybe..now here is a idea..play the 4 and let Weyven grab rebounds and secure the center position.. I dont like this as the team has created this small ball syndrome junk that has got us nowhere but for tonight it was what it is. Also creat pick and rolls with Shro and AR who had it going..but nope....not AD..D..D. |
That requires a guard that can get you the ball in those sets and he was doing that during this game. Of course when you do that you’re not taking the ball to the basket which is another grape that people are having. |
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[quote="E_Wulf420"] | Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore
If we’re looking for a banger, bringing Hassan Whiteside |
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| E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore |
I also would like the Lakers to get another capable big. Might have to wait to see if anyone shakes free in the buyout market. Or, there's always plucking Jay Huff from the G-League. Hassan Whiteside is still available for the vet min, as a free agent.
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| Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Welp. It looks like we have our new scapegoat. |
Yeah, it’s called having half a team |
It's not that, it's the fact this the perfect game to show everyone who AD is. Instead he just rolls over and gives a half effort instead of being a leader.
Did Kobe roll over and give up when Shaq fouled out in the Finals? No, he made that his moment and put everyone on notice. Maybe I'm a little spoiled, growing up watching Kobe give his 110% every game. This is supposed to be our franchise player, yet he can't even show up and try to match a former MVP level. |
Name the amount of times that Kobe Bryant fouled out of a game you’re embarrassing yourself |
AD wasn't in foul trouble in the 1st half yet there still was no sign of urgency from him. Wheres the 28/12 player we traded our future for? We are in 13th place for crying out loud. Every game is a must win if we even want to make the play in. |
The player you traded your future for already won you a championship and is coming off injury and was in foul trouble in the game. You do know that you have to manage fouls right you have to be careful because if you get 6 you can no longer play the game. Let me see if I can break this down so you can actually understand it. Also, the player that you traded your future for had an outstanding game against these Bucs earlier in the season and we are one and one on the year with thrm Just thought I’d point that out since it seems to have slipped your mind. |
He won you a championship...plaease stop right there...people that didnt want to be in that bubble and on top of that he was even hurt then...smh. Regular teams like toronta give you flowers for winning one chip..thats not lakers...back in the day if the Lakers go out and trade for you ..its not to win ONE WHOLE CHIP...lol. If we didnt win that GREAT CHIP..would you consider that trade "great" right now?
Also so what he won one against the bucs..sooo? The problem is how he is playing right now which is lathargic ie low moter...jacking up shots at the three point ..losing the ball and not making a differnce on neither side of the court. Knowing that every game is a must win because we right now arent even in the play-in and our fearless leader sitting on the bench.."Load Managaing"...smh. |
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JustaObserver
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| sonic the laker wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore |
I also would like the Lakers to get another capable big. Might have to wait to see if anyone shakes free in the buyout market. Or, there's always plucking Jay Huff from the G-League. Hassan Whiteside is still available for the vet min, as a free agent. |
Jay Huff..we should have kept him instead of Damon Jones...smh. |
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E_Wulf420
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| Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | Welp. It looks like we have our new scapegoat. |
Yeah, it’s called having half a team |
It's not that, it's the fact this the perfect game to show everyone who AD is. Instead he just rolls over and gives a half effort instead of being a leader.
Did Kobe roll over and give up when Shaq fouled out in the Finals? No, he made that his moment and put everyone on notice. Maybe I'm a little spoiled, growing up watching Kobe give his 110% every game. This is supposed to be our franchise player, yet he can't even show up and try to match a former MVP level. |
Name the amount of times that Kobe Bryant fouled out of a game you’re embarrassing yourself |
AD wasn't in foul trouble in the 1st half yet there still was no sign of urgency from him. Wheres the 28/12 player we traded our future for? We are in 13th place for crying out loud. Every game is a must win if we even want to make the play in. |
The player you traded your future for already won you a championship and is coming off injury and was in foul trouble in the game. You do know that you have to manage fouls right you have to be careful because if you get 6 you can no longer play the game. Let me see if I can break this down so you can actually understand it. Also, the player that you traded your future for had an outstanding game against these Bucs earlier in the season and we are one and one on the year with thrm Just thought I’d point that out since it seems to have slipped your mind. |
from the second the game started he needed to show everyone that this is his team. Last game he played poorly, I give him a pass for obvious reasons, but to come out with the effort he did in the 1st half is inexcusable. If he comes out with urgency in the beginning they win this game. Everyone wanted to see him hit that extra level tonight, and he failed. Oh and that championship was 3 years ago, back then AD was considered a top 5 talent, not anymore. It might be time to move on.
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| JustaObserver wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore |
I also would like the Lakers to get another capable big. Might have to wait to see if anyone shakes free in the buyout market. Or, there's always plucking Jay Huff from the G-League. Hassan Whiteside is still available for the vet min, as a free agent. |
Jay Huff..we should have kept him instead of Damon Jones...smh. |
If we want Huff he is still available |
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Hanging from Rafters
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| Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | Hanging from Rafters wrote: | | Polarbear wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | lakersfan32 wrote: | | why doesn't AD bully his way to the rim like giannis? |
He doesn't have that mentality. Giannis wants to be one of the best to ever do it. AD is happy with his bubble ring. |
Are you seriously this stupid
They’re not calling the fouls when Anthony Davis goes to the basket while Anthony Davis himself is in foul trouble learn basketball |
Why call him stupid bro? I know opinions differ and you seem to know ball from previous post...but AD looked out of sorts tonight....as he has for a number of games. Not speaking for the OP but I think he just wants to know why AD doesn't look better and i wonder too. Seem mor than foul trouble. |
y'all act like Bucks suck at defense or something. Did you see how many studs they've got there defensively? Good lord.
AD was struggling for sure, but still got 23/16 while not getting many calls down low. He also didn't have his best facilitator out there, when Milwaukee had everyone that matters. I think his struggles might have had more to do with Milwaukee's defense than him not wanting to win. |
I get what you are saying and it is valid...but did AD look like he was competing hard to you? It didn't to me...and apparently others. We could be too hard on AD, playing injured, foul trouble, double bigs to compete against without players than normally know how to get him the ball. We should give AD more of a pass.
There is another side though...and it' on you...don't pretend you were ok with the effort from AD. We're not and that's all I'm saying...I want to see more intensity and win or lose to look like the best effort was given. I didn't see that. |
What would more effort look like? I feel like if his shots were drives instead of jumpers people wouldn't have this impression. But he was shooting over a defense that was packed in.
Defensively he was making rotations and having to recover to rebound. He had twice as many rebounds as the next highest Laker. Was it because the ball was falling at his feet? Or was he moving his feet and getting rebounds. He got 5 offensive boards. That is a healthy total of offensive rebounds. Ball fall at his feet, or did he get to those?
I saw a number of rebounds that he either tipped or were taken from him because of contact or active hands by the bucks. I saw drives/putbacks where he was either blocked or missed with contact that looked less than or equal to contact that was called in favor of Giannis. That IS effort. You may not like the result, but don't confuse that with effort.
Did we see any lobs to AD? That is something I'm used to seeing almost every game, but I'm also used to seeing Russ throw those to him, or Lebron. I saw a couple of plays where AD looked open around the basket but didn't get the pass, one became a schroder jumper that missed when a pass would have led to a dunk and better numbers at the end of the game. |
If you were pleased with the way AD played then cool…we can disagree. No probs or conflicts here. I wasn’t pleased. I want to see AD take over and be a 30pt scoring beast imposing his will on the opposing team from time to time when needed. The lackluster play seemed to be a carry over from the OKC game and we’ve seen it before, to the point where we thought AD had lost it, until we saw it come back earlier in the season when LBJ went out with the groin and AD looked like an MVP candidate again. He’s probably just workng his way back from injury, could just be my overreaction…either way I didn’t like what I saw and hope it changes.
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JustaObserver
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| cital wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | sonic the laker wrote: | | E_Wulf420 wrote: | | Theseus wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | Lakesh0wtime wrote: | Start Bamba.
AD does not look physically right. He’s able to start games well and then loses energy and lift by the 4th. He cant endure the physical nature of being a center for the whole game.
6-8 minutes to start the half with a center would do wonders for his energy level and foul trouble. |
Then he need to stop being a center...he the village idiot with Leking that wanted to play the center position. Ham needs to grow some and tell the two idiots that ITS NOT WORKING...simple. We actually lost TB because this moron WANTS to play center and he cant do it. |
Lol you think he's subbing himself in at center or something?
If he doesn't play center tonight, who does? Wenyon? Rui? Come on now. |
to be fair i dont think Ham even tried to play AD at the 4 with TB at the 5. Even with Mamba we still need one more center, bad news is who's available that won't have a negative impact?
Cousins? No D
D12? Just doesn't have it anymore |
I also would like the Lakers to get another capable big. Might have to wait to see if anyone shakes free in the buyout market. Or, there's always plucking Jay Huff from the G-League. Hassan Whiteside is still available for the vet min, as a free agent. |
Jay Huff..we should have kept him instead of Damon Jones...smh. |
If we want Huff he is still available |
Yep he playing on Southbay..they should bring him up and give him some burn..but its up to the same guy that keep putting out three undersized gaurds until the GM got rid of his players. The first time i saw some so stupid was when the Knicks put in Stevie Franchise + Starbury + another guard at the same time..just stupidity..and they thought that was going to work..pfftt lol! And here i got to see it again...lol. |
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