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Kblo247!
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| cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | george w kush wrote: | | We won this game because Ham decided to give the best players the most minutes. |
ARe yawl serious? He done a Luke Walton puting a Hockey sub of 4 bench players withoutleaving a starter when the lead was 18pt.
And didnt adjust that load of junk till the lead was 9.
Next he CONTINUES leaving bease in when he sees that he just doesnt have it right now.
Just because its a win doesnt realease him from those dumb moves. |
Just an observation -- if a double digit win can't garner any credit -- I doubt anything will for some of you - lol |
Nope nope stop it.. He put the starters back in and took out that mess he had out there thats what pushed the lead.
Let me put it this way..if he wouldnt have put that mess out there..the lead would have gotten big enough to where you could rest AD/LBJ//whoever for the 4th.
Also will you have this same energy when he starts doing this mess in the playin or playoffs? Ill wait.... |
Have a look at this -- you see how the curve shows we f'd away the lead -- but got it back and maintained it - and cruised to an easy win? -- but ya know -- if we would have done yada yada 40 games ago -- yada yada
Man - just don't be lazy |
If he would have simply pulled Beasley in the second or ran another starter in his place the Bulls don’t ever take that lead. If he called a timeout to stop their run he would be better off. Yes the starters cruised and got it back, but he created an unneeded scenario which can come up in a playoff or play in |
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LakerSD
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Got the split, makes up for terrible Sunday effort.
(bleep) you, Bev!  |
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drae
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This team is so much fun to watch  |
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LakerSD
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| Lakers have another similar situation to tonight where it’s Wolves first game back home after a long trip. Got to take advantage. |
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miggz23
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | george w kush wrote: | | We won this game because Ham decided to give the best players the most minutes. |
ARe yawl serious? He done a Luke Walton puting a Hockey sub of 4 bench players withoutleaving a starter when the lead was 18pt.
And didnt adjust that load of junk till the lead was 9.
Next he CONTINUES leaving bease in when he sees that he just doesnt have it right now.
Just because its a win doesnt realease him from those dumb moves. |
Just an observation -- if a double digit win can't garner any credit -- I doubt anything will for some of you - lol |
Nope nope stop it.. He put the starters back in and took out that mess he had out there thats what pushed the lead.
Let me put it this way..if he wouldnt have put that mess out there..the lead would have gotten big enough to where you could rest AD/LBJ//whoever for the 4th.
Also will you have this same energy when he starts doing this mess in the playin or playoffs? Ill wait.... |
Have a look at this -- you see how the curve shows we f'd away the lead -- but got it back and maintained it - and cruised to an easy win? -- but ya know -- if we would have done yada yada 40 games ago -- yada yada
Man - just don't be lazy |
If he would have simply pulled Beasley in the second or ran another starter in his place the Bulls don’t ever take that lead. If he called a timeout to stop their run he would be better off. Yes the starters cruised and got it back, but he created an unneeded scenario which can come up in a playoff or play in |
Reason I still prefer for Beasley to start over Reaves. Reaves is better suited coming off the bench. Plus it does not matter if Reaves starts or not. Aslong he get his minutes and closes out games.
Beasley is key here because his a rhythm player. Plus he is best suited playing with the full starter and he just have to focus on catch and shoot. Just find the open spot and shoot. Ham can always shorten his minutes if he's not shooting well.
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tox
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Missed today's game but feel vindicated about the James/Davis/Russell/Reaves grouping (not that anyone was challenging me on it lol)
I think there's merit to the idea of starting Beasley though, and subbing in Reaves for Beasley for ending lineups. I have a lot of concerns about the bench without any of Russell, Reaves, James.
You can also stagger minutes in a way to let the big 4 start and still have at least one of James/Russell/Reaves on the court with the bench, it just seems like maybe more work? |
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| pio2u wrote: | The crew will be ready tonight. LA by 10! .........GO LAKERS!! 
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Reds622
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Give Beasley some of Browns minutes. Neither can really play a lick of defense anyways. Brown has to have the most fouls on 3 point plays on the team this season. Rui needs to play consistent minutes. He’s not going to be great every night, but he’s got length and he can score in different ways. He’s not just a spot up 3 point shooter. He can get you a bucket in the post and the mid game.
They need Bamba back as a back up big. Gabriel is a fine hustle player.. but if he’s playing 20 minutes a night on your team you’re in big trouble. He’s too undersized.
Ham needs to tell Schroder to run the offense and to stop dribbling the ball for 15 seconds before he moves it to a teammates. He’s also way too quick moving off of Davis or Lebron on entry passes. Force the ball into the one on one matchup. Moving the ball around the perimeter just leads to a stagnant offense where guys are standing around. |
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cooleggs
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| Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2023 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | cooleggs wrote: | | JustaObserver wrote: | | george w kush wrote: | | We won this game because Ham decided to give the best players the most minutes. |
ARe yawl serious? He done a Luke Walton puting a Hockey sub of 4 bench players withoutleaving a starter when the lead was 18pt.
And didnt adjust that load of junk till the lead was 9.
Next he CONTINUES leaving bease in when he sees that he just doesnt have it right now.
Just because its a win doesnt realease him from those dumb moves. |
Just an observation -- if a double digit win can't garner any credit -- I doubt anything will for some of you - lol |
Nope nope stop it.. He put the starters back in and took out that mess he had out there thats what pushed the lead.
Let me put it this way..if he wouldnt have put that mess out there..the lead would have gotten big enough to where you could rest AD/LBJ//whoever for the 4th.
Also will you have this same energy when he starts doing this mess in the playin or playoffs? Ill wait.... |
Have a look at this -- you see how the curve shows we f'd away the lead -- but got it back and maintained it - and cruised to an easy win? -- but ya know -- if we would have done yada yada 40 games ago -- yada yada
Man - just don't be lazy |
If he would have simply pulled Beasley in the second or ran another starter in his place the Bulls don’t ever take that lead. If he called a timeout to stop their run he would be better off. Yes the starters cruised and got it back, but he created an unneeded scenario which can come up in a playoff or play in |
He didn't create any unneeded anything -- the starting unit is connected to the bench rotations. He did something that worked well on one end but not so much on the other. Then you know what he did - he adjusted and kept one of the starters with those bum-azz second unit dudes -- which restored order so we didn't go down when the starters were out. I applaud him for trying something.
What's unneeded is fan's being lazy - wanting perfection - and failing to realize it's a process. Like the saying goes - just win baby! -- but when we do -- enjoy the freaking spoils of war - lol |
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ducasse
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| Too bad Pat didn't see AR's too small. That would have been fun. He did lead the Bulls with a -32. |
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Kblo247!
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| Reds622 wrote: | Give Beasley some of Browns minutes. Neither can really play a lick of defense anyways. Brown has to have the most fouls on 3 point plays on the team this season. Rui needs to play consistent minutes. He’s not going to be great every night, but he’s got length and he can score in different ways. He’s not just a spot up 3 point shooter. He can get you a bucket in the post and the mid game.
They need Bamba back as a back up big. Gabriel is a fine hustle player.. but if he’s playing 20 minutes a night on your team you’re in big trouble. He’s too undersized.
Ham needs to tell Schroder to run the offense and to stop dribbling the ball for 15 seconds before he moves it to a teammates. He’s also way too quick moving off of Davis or Lebron on entry passes. Force the ball into the one on one matchup. Moving the ball around the perimeter just leads to a stagnant offense where guys are standing around. |
What you said was a lot of falses
TBJ has one of the best rating for iso defensive situations on the team. He’s much better than Beasley or Walker in that role, better than Rui too as a defender, spacer, and rebounder. Hell he’s a 38.8% three point guy as a starter so if there’s a series Vando gets subbed out or hurt he’s easily the best guy up to fill the 3D role.
Denis also has one of the top fourth quarter offensive ratings on the team passing Bron, Reaves, and all. He should be the one in attack mode late especially since he draws fouls and is one of the best free throw shooters. He should just have Reaves, Russell, or Bron next to him so he can attack. It’s using him best like how okc used him with Paul and SGA
Brown and Denis don’t need to change at all. It’s up to the coach to maximize them because they work. Rui and Gabriel should get the other bench minutes and Beasley, Lonnie, and Bamba should be benched together |
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Polarbear
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | Reds622 wrote: | Give Beasley some of Browns minutes. Neither can really play a lick of defense anyways. Brown has to have the most fouls on 3 point plays on the team this season. Rui needs to play consistent minutes. He’s not going to be great every night, but he’s got length and he can score in different ways. He’s not just a spot up 3 point shooter. He can get you a bucket in the post and the mid game.
They need Bamba back as a back up big. Gabriel is a fine hustle player.. but if he’s playing 20 minutes a night on your team you’re in big trouble. He’s too undersized.
Ham needs to tell Schroder to run the offense and to stop dribbling the ball for 15 seconds before he moves it to a teammates. He’s also way too quick moving off of Davis or Lebron on entry passes. Force the ball into the one on one matchup. Moving the ball around the perimeter just leads to a stagnant offense where guys are standing around. |
What you said was a lot of falses
TBJ has one of the best rating for iso defensive situations on the team. He’s much better than Beasley or Walker in that role, better than Rui too as a defender, spacer, and rebounder. Hell he’s a 38.8% three point guy as a starter so if there’s a series Vando gets subbed out or hurt he’s easily the best guy up to fill the 3D role.
Denis also has one of the top fourth quarter offensive ratings on the team passing Bron, Reaves, and all. He should be the one in attack mode late especially since he draws fouls and is one of the best free throw shooters. He should just have Reaves, Russell, or Bron next to him so he can attack. It’s using him best like how okc used him with Paul and SGA
Brown and Denis don’t need to change at all. It’s up to the coach to maximize them because they work. Rui and Gabriel should get the other bench minutes and Beasley, Lonnie, and Bamba should be benched together |
Yeah, we don’t wanna be giving Beasley Browns minutes who actually is playing well to be perfectly honest Beasley needs to be sat down. He need some DNP‘s to either wake him up or fix the rotation you could live with the fact that he’s gone completely coal from three-point land if he could play any defense, but he can’t last night he was making very careless passes.
I think they need to give real thought whether or not they want him to be in the play in rotation |
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Kblo247!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2023 8:17 am Post subject: |
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| Polarbear wrote: | | Kblo247! wrote: | | Reds622 wrote: | Give Beasley some of Browns minutes. Neither can really play a lick of defense anyways. Brown has to have the most fouls on 3 point plays on the team this season. Rui needs to play consistent minutes. He’s not going to be great every night, but he’s got length and he can score in different ways. He’s not just a spot up 3 point shooter. He can get you a bucket in the post and the mid game.
They need Bamba back as a back up big. Gabriel is a fine hustle player.. but if he’s playing 20 minutes a night on your team you’re in big trouble. He’s too undersized.
Ham needs to tell Schroder to run the offense and to stop dribbling the ball for 15 seconds before he moves it to a teammates. He’s also way too quick moving off of Davis or Lebron on entry passes. Force the ball into the one on one matchup. Moving the ball around the perimeter just leads to a stagnant offense where guys are standing around. |
What you said was a lot of falses
TBJ has one of the best rating for iso defensive situations on the team. He’s much better than Beasley or Walker in that role, better than Rui too as a defender, spacer, and rebounder. Hell he’s a 38.8% three point guy as a starter so if there’s a series Vando gets subbed out or hurt he’s easily the best guy up to fill the 3D role.
Denis also has one of the top fourth quarter offensive ratings on the team passing Bron, Reaves, and all. He should be the one in attack mode late especially since he draws fouls and is one of the best free throw shooters. He should just have Reaves, Russell, or Bron next to him so he can attack. It’s using him best like how okc used him with Paul and SGA
Brown and Denis don’t need to change at all. It’s up to the coach to maximize them because they work. Rui and Gabriel should get the other bench minutes and Beasley, Lonnie, and Bamba should be benched together |
Yeah, we don’t wanna be giving Beasley Browns minutes who actually is playing well to be perfectly honest Beasley needs to be sat down. He need some DNP‘s to either wake him up or fix the rotation you could live with the fact that he’s gone completely coal from three-point land if he could play any defense, but he can’t last night he was making very careless passes.
I think they need to give real thought whether or not they want him to be in the play in rotation |
When he barreled over AD in the third and the announcer laughed for the Bulls I was done. |
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lakerhalo
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| pio2u wrote: | | pio2u wrote: | The crew will be ready tonight. LA by 10! .........GO LAKERS!!
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Nice pio!!! |
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