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 Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 9:05 am Post subject: LeBron James has been the perfect role model since he was a teen, says author |
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LeBron James has been the perfect role model since he was a teen, says author
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| Quote: | | Author Jeff Benedict joins Morning Joe to discuss his new book 'LeBron,' about NBA great LeBron James's rise to dominance on the court and beyond. |
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I am so sick of all the revisionist El BJ fanboying and media hype that's going on these days.
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| How did a thread about LeBron James make its way into the Off Topic Forum? |
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| LongBeachPoly wrote: | | How did a thread about LeBron James make its way into the Off Topic Forum? |
There are some politics and non-basketball things in the video.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | I am so sick of all the revisionist El BJ fanboying and media hype that's going on these days. |
Agreed. Say what you want about Petros Papadakis, but he's right on the money  in saying that Lebron's personna feels completely contrived. There's something about Lebron that doesn't pass the smell test.
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I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him. 
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled.
Listen to Petro Papadakis. He's all over the map.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | I am so sick of all the revisionist El BJ fanboying and media hype that's going on these days. |
You mean decades because... |
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| jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him.
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled. |
Jim Brown was also violent towards women. I am assuming SAS means Stephen A? This is the guy who live on air sympathized with ray Rice and said women shouldn't provoke their men. Then doubled down.
Kaj was next level and like ALI put himself in harms way. Brons words IMHO have never really inspired. His actions on the other hand are without peer.
Every young athlete with means should look to how he has given back and carried himself.
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| DaMuleRules wrote: | | I am so sick of all the revisionist El BJ fanboying and media hype that's going on these days. |
I have only ever thought of the guy as a poseur and a charlatan who happens to be an excellent athlete.
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| Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him.
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled. |
Jim Brown was also violent towards women. I am assuming SAS means Stephen A? This is the guy who live on air sympathized with ray Rice and said women shouldn't provoke their men. Then doubled down.
The way Jim Brown and SAS treat women has nothing to do with speaking because they have a platform. I applaud them for having careers that could be jeopardized because of their positions on social issues.
Kaj was next level and like ALI put himself in harms way. Brons words IMHO have never really inspired. His actions on the other hand are without peer.
I disagree with Brons words not inspiring. He's a high schooler who made it big and's giving back. He's probably inspiring high schoolers. As I said those who don't agree with my position are entitled to.
Every young athlete with means should look to how he has given back and carried himself. |
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| jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him.
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled. |
Jim Brown was also violent towards women. I am assuming SAS means Stephen A? This is the guy who live on air sympathized with ray Rice and said women shouldn't provoke their men. Then doubled down.
The way Jim Brown and SAS treat women has nothing to do with speaking because they have a platform. I applaud them for having careers that could be jeopardized because of their positions on social issues.
Kaj was next level and like ALI put himself in harms way. Brons words IMHO have never really inspired. His actions on the other hand are without peer.
I disagree with Brons words not inspiring. He's a high schooler who made it big and's giving back. He's probably inspiring high schoolers. As I said those who don't agree with my position are entitled to.
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Isn’t this about role model? Just because JB comes out with empowering speech the flip side is he has been accused of assault. This is a full package deal. SAS on his platform tears down black men. There is more. Easy to claim entertainment but it’s still use of his platform.
Bron has been amazing. Arguably flawless.For me, it’s never been because of his words. I can’t remember anything profound outside of responding to the bigots on fox. His opening of schools is far more impactful than anything he can or has said.
We agree that he has been amazing since day 1.
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| Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him.
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled. |
Jim Brown was also violent towards women. I am assuming SAS means Stephen A? This is the guy who live on air sympathized with ray Rice and said women shouldn't provoke their men. Then doubled down.
The way Jim Brown and SAS treat women has nothing to do with speaking because they have a platform. I applaud them for having careers that could be jeopardized because of their positions on social issues.
Kaj was next level and like ALI put himself in harms way. Brons words IMHO have never really inspired. His actions on the other hand are without peer.
I disagree with Brons words not inspiring. He's a high schooler who made it big and's giving back. He's probably inspiring high schoolers. As I said those who don't agree with my position are entitled to.
Every young athlete with means should look to how he has given back and carried himself. |
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Isn’t this about role model? Just because JB comes out with empowering speech the flip side is he has been accused of assault. This is a full package deal. SAS on his platform tears down black men. There is more. Easy to claim entertainment but it’s still use of his platform.
Bron has been amazing. Arguably flawless.For me, it’s never been because of his words. I can’t remember anything profound outside of responding to the bigots on fox. His opening of schools is far more impactful than anything he can or has said.
We agree that he has been amazing since day 1. |
Laker fans are happy he decided to play for them, but I can't say they are passionate about Lebron to the degree that Kareem, Magic or Kobe were. But I notice theres a certain profile of people who really openly despise him and they are members of a certain political affiliation. Mention Lebron and they really fume and turn red....  |
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| Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | | Halflife wrote: | | jodeke wrote: | I'm in favor of LeBron and his speaking out. He's not a shut up and dribble athlete. Athletes have a forum that allows their voices to be heard by many and he's using it publicly with a volume high.
Michael Jordan is doing great things that go unknown. He's been criticized by many who don't know what he's doing. Many other Black athletes are doing the same thing but it goes unknown.
Bron is of a Jim Brown, Kareem Jabbar, Colin Kaepernick, SAS mold. He's speaking for those who don't have a voice. I applaud him.
Those who have opinions that don't jibe with mine are entitled. |
Jim Brown was also violent towards women. I am assuming SAS means Stephen A? This is the guy who live on air sympathized with ray Rice and said women shouldn't provoke their men. Then doubled down.
The way Jim Brown and SAS treat women has nothing to do with speaking because they have a platform. I applaud them for having careers that could be jeopardized because of their positions on social issues.
Kaj was next level and like ALI put himself in harms way. Brons words IMHO have never really inspired. His actions on the other hand are without peer.
I disagree with Brons words not inspiring. He's a high schooler who made it big and's giving back. He's probably inspiring high schoolers. As I said those who don't agree with my position are entitled to.
Every young athlete with means should look to how he has given back and carried himself. |
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Isn’t this about role model? Just because JB comes out with empowering speech the flip side is he has been accused of assault. This is a full package deal.
SAS on his platform tears down black men. There is more. Easy to claim entertainment but it’s still use of his platform.
Yes, it is about role models. Jim Brown is not the greatest. It's also about uplifting a community. It's also about equal rights. Jim Brown speaks on race relations and equality. We're talking about using a platform not afforded to the average person.
SAS is criticized for speaking up for Black coaches and hiring more Blacks in FO jobs. When have you seen him tear down Black men? I've never seen it. Do you have an example? He tells it like it is in the sports venue. Black, White, or Green.
Bron has been amazing. Arguably flawless.For me, it’s never been because of his words. I can’t remember anything profound outside of responding to the bigots on fox. His opening of schools is far more impactful than anything he can or has said.
You may not find anything of a profound nature. IMO it's about the message, not the articulation. He encourages youngsters to believe in themselves. The message doesn't always have to be spoken it can manifest in achievement.
We agree that he has been amazing since day 1. |
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LeBron has done some things that made him look really bad, like The Decision. Every now and then he says or does things that seem to smack of hubris, like when he talked about seeing "the LeBron James of feet."
Imo he's a narcissist, but not all narcissists are bad people. If you want to talk about him speaking out on social/racial issues, investing his own money to help poor people in Akron, Ohio or being a dad, those are areas where he's a good example to follow.
When it comes to training and taking care of his body, he may be reaching Kobe-esque levels. They say he invests at least $1 million a year into his body.
But LeBron is so polarizing, and it gets annoying. Read comments on any article written about him and it's nothing but LeBron haters tearing him down, and LeBronsexuals insisting he's the GOAT and it's not even close. There's no middle ground with him where people acknowledge both the good and bad with him.
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Here's an example of how LeBron is not only a good example off the court, but being the rare businessman who uses his business ventures to enrich and help other people, especially poor people.
https://theathletic.com/4362200/2023/03/30/lebron-james-starbucks-job-training-i-promise-school/
| Quote: | At 6 o’clock Wednesday morning, a new Starbucks opened for the first time on West Market Street, next door to a bank and a parking garage, and across from a couple of brick, vacant storefronts, some with boarded-up windows, on the outskirts of downtown.
There is no Starbucks quite like it in the world.
The 46 people who work there are all being paid an hourly salary, but on top of the money are earning valuable job-training certificates for the hospitality industry.
It’s an entirely new way to think about job training, which is typically done at community colleges and vocational schools where the students aren’t being paid for the pieces of paper they get that they hope one day opens a door for them into the career field of their choice. |
| Quote: | The “employees” like Schuler, called “team members” in LeBron foundation-speak, don’t just work for Starbucks, or the Taco Shop by Old El Paso or the LeBron James Sports Bar (when they open). They all will be trained in every facet of every business at House Three Thirty, from event planning to food service (there’s a fancy test kitchen in the basement sponsored by Pepsi, another of LeBron’s partners), to janitorial work. They get paid and they get the training credits.
None of the other nearly 33,000 Starbucks on Earth are like this one in Akron, which opened Wednesday morning, in no small part because it’s the only Starbucks that is a part of James’ now 12-year quest to break cyclical poverty in his hometown by confronting its root causes. |
It's always heartwarming when rich and powerful people like LeBron do things like this.
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| C M B wrote: | | DaMuleRules wrote: | | I am so sick of all the revisionist El BJ fanboying and media hype that's going on these days. |
I have only ever thought of the guy as a poseur and a charlatan who happens to be an excellent athlete. |
Pretty much sums up my thoughts. Always a coward who crowed too much.
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