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venturalakersfan
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| ContagiousInspiration wrote: | No injuries all season iirc... not easy to repeat
Anyhow.. this guy must be seeking Sainthood 
“We won because we are not rooting for ourselves…we are rooting for the person next to us. I’m rooting for Jamal and everyone else, and they are rooting for me.”
Jokic after winning the NBA Championship @nuggets
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Or maybe he just isn’t into pantomiming putting a fake crown on his head?
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LakerFan1987
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | No injuries all season iirc... not easy to repeat
Anyhow.. this guy must be seeking Sainthood
“We won because we are not rooting for ourselves…we are rooting for the person next to us. I’m rooting for Jamal and everyone else, and they are rooting for me.”
Jokic after winning the NBA Championship @nuggets
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https://twitter.com/jeaker/status/1668459655897440257 |
Or maybe he just isn’t into pantomiming putting a fake crown on his head? |
Playing 20 yrs, all time scoring leader, and 4 rings... think he earned that right.
Sorry Kawhi can't do that ... maybe if he can play 60 games |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| lakersboy wrote: | | Will the Lakers mgmt take note of Denver’s mgmt style? |
Not unless/until the team is sold to better owners.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | No injuries all season iirc... not easy to repeat
Anyhow.. this guy must be seeking Sainthood
“We won because we are not rooting for ourselves…we are rooting for the person next to us. I’m rooting for Jamal and everyone else, and they are rooting for me.”
Jokic after winning the NBA Championship @nuggets
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https://twitter.com/jeaker/status/1668459655897440257 |
Or maybe he just isn’t into pantomiming putting a fake crown on his head? |
Christ how lame.
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lakersboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 1:49 am Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: |
Denver didn’t gut their roster to attempt to bring in the next big star. They could have made the same foolish Westbrook trade the Lakers did. |
Denver really didn't do anything unique in terms of strategy. They drafted, made trades, went after free agents. If they have have a "template," its the same template that many other teams used. The difference is it worked out for Denver, and not for other teams.
But as others pointed out, this is the kind of thread that we see every year. As soon as a team wins a ring, people think they have a magical formula to follow. |
I agree that Denver didn't do anything unique. It's the Lakers whose off the wall, logic defying ideas to have overnight success by giving up picks and players to help Lebron, or firing a coach because he hasn't won in 2 years. THAT'S unique and not appreciated.
I don't think Denver's way is magic. It's normal and realistic.
I just don't like the Lakers' constant knee jerk reactions.
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lakersboy
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| Aeneas Hunter wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | The Nuggets are easy, because they won. If I used a losing franchise as an example, it doesn’t hold much water. |
Yes, and that’s the point. The Nuggets are really irrelevant. |
The point for me is win or lose, I appreciate the way other teams are functioning. The Lakers constantly overreacting to players in a slump or coaches not putting player x in long enough, is drama that turns me off. |
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| Dreamshake wrote: | | Model seems the same to me. Get one of the best players in the world and build around him. You can acquire said player via draft, trade or free agency. |
One team's star doesn't constantly pressure mgmt to jettison assets, players, or coaches for his favorite guys.
You can't acquire players through the draft if he always insists that mgmt trade them.
The models are absolutely not the same. |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | Denver made two smart pick ups in KCP and Bruce Brown.
Their home grown talent is next level ... Jokic, Murray and somewhat MPJ
Let's not fool ourselves and think Ingram, DLo, Lonzo, Randle are even on that level |
Aaron Gordon was as good as any of the guys they added.
Speaking of Randle, he was drafted 3 slots after Gordon. He absolutely had value and the bonehead move of the decade was letting him walk without having traded him. He should have been traded before season. Another poor mgmt decision to not properly value an asset and do what's best for the team. |
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lakersboy
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| defense wrote: | | tox wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Model seems the same to me. Get one of the best players in the world and build around him. You can acquire said player via draft, trade or free agency. |
this |
Basically... and if you can get two, you are killing the game! |
And if you get 3 who aren't on rookie, team friendly contracts, you kill your bench and your chances. |
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| lakersboy wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Model seems the same to me. Get one of the best players in the world and build around him. You can acquire said player via draft, trade or free agency. |
One team's star doesn't constantly pressure mgmt to jettison assets, players, or coaches for his favorite guys.
You can't acquire players through the draft if he always insists that mgmt trade them.
The models are absolutely not the same. |
I agree somewhat. The Lakers might have traded Jokic in 2017 for a 30+ year old proven star if they could. They seem to just not have the patience. However, no player the Lakers traded has become a true franchise cornerstone. So perhaps they just know a star when they see it and know when to move off when they don’t?
All that said the last 5 years has been exhausting. Very happy we won a ring and got to the WCF. Very appreciative even with what I’m about to say. I am tired of the constant team turnover. I feel like before I can get behind the team and really enjoy the ups and downs with the players an entire new set of players is here and the process is restarted. That and the constant pressure of the Bron window is about to close makes me constantly anxious instead of enjoying thr growth of a team. |
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:21 am Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| lakersboy wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: |
Denver didn’t gut their roster to attempt to bring in the next big star. They could have made the same foolish Westbrook trade the Lakers did. |
Denver really didn't do anything unique in terms of strategy. They drafted, made trades, went after free agents. If they have have a "template," its the same template that many other teams used. The difference is it worked out for Denver, and not for other teams.
But as others pointed out, this is the kind of thread that we see every year. As soon as a team wins a ring, people think they have a magical formula to follow. |
I agree that Denver didn't do anything unique. It's the Lakers whose off the wall, logic defying ideas to have overnight success by giving up picks and players to help Lebron, or firing a coach because he hasn't won in 2 years. THAT'S unique and not appreciated.
I don't think Denver's way is magic. It's normal and realistic.
I just don't like the Lakers' constant knee jerk reactions. |
It seems like you're just using a fake tie-in to Denver to justify a generic rant about the Lakers management. I don't mind the rant, I just don't understand why this needed to be a new thread. |
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LakerFan1987
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 8:28 am Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: |
Denver didn’t gut their roster to attempt to bring in the next big star. They could have made the same foolish Westbrook trade the Lakers did. |
Denver really didn't do anything unique in terms of strategy. They drafted, made trades, went after free agents. If they have have a "template," its the same template that many other teams used. The difference is it worked out for Denver, and not for other teams.
But as others pointed out, this is the kind of thread that we see every year. As soon as a team wins a ring, people think they have a magical formula to follow. |
I agree that Denver didn't do anything unique. It's the Lakers whose off the wall, logic defying ideas to have overnight success by giving up picks and players to help Lebron, or firing a coach because he hasn't won in 2 years. THAT'S unique and not appreciated.
I don't think Denver's way is magic. It's normal and realistic.
I just don't like the Lakers' constant knee jerk reactions. |
It seems like you're just using a fake tie-in to Denver to justify a generic rant about the Lakers management. I don't mind the rant, I just don't understand why this needed to be a new thread. |
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Denny_Russo
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | Denver made two smart pick ups in KCP and Bruce Brown.
Their home grown talent is next level ... Jokic, Murray and somewhat MPJ
Let's not fool ourselves and think Ingram, DLo, Lonzo, Randle are even on that level |
1) I already told everyone if we magically get Ingram, I'd do the jig and dance naked on the streets. Those last 2-3 months, he reached superstar level, carrying his team while their fat ass generational talent was screwing porn stars. I love Murray, but come on my guy, he doesn't get doubled or triple teamed at nearly the same rate Ingram does. He doesn't have to carry a sorry ass team to the play-in/playoffs year after year. Ingram with Jokic is a dynasty and Nuggets fans were salivating for him after he dropped those triple doubles on them.
2) Not sold on Dlo and Randle. They turn into one dimensional players in the playoffs.
3) Zo was legit and turned Chicago into contenders but his career is over.
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lakersboy
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| kfkilla wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | Dreamshake wrote: | | Model seems the same to me. Get one of the best players in the world and build around him. You can acquire said player via draft, trade or free agency. |
One team's star doesn't constantly pressure mgmt to jettison assets, players, or coaches for his favorite guys.
You can't acquire players through the draft if he always insists that mgmt trade them.
The models are absolutely not the same. |
I agree somewhat. The Lakers might have traded Jokic in 2017 for a 30+ year old proven star if they could. They seem to just not have the patience. However, no player the Lakers traded has become a true franchise cornerstone. So perhaps they just know a star when they see it and know when to move off when they don’t?
All that said the last 5 years has been exhausting. Very happy we won a ring and got to the WCF. Very appreciative even with what I’m about to say. I am tired of the constant team turnover. I feel like before I can get behind the team and really enjoy the ups and downs with the players an entire new set of players is here and the process is restarted. That and the constant pressure of the Bron window is about to close makes me constantly anxious instead of enjoying thr growth of a team. |
I’ll confidently take an uneducated guess that the Nuggets will return next year with the same roster they won with this season, valuing the players that have just proved to be the best in the world.
The players the Lakers traded aren’t franchise players but they were essential to winning in 2020 (Kuzma, KCP, saying bye to Caruso, trading Green & pick, releasing others).
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lakersboy
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:25 am Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: |
Denver didn’t gut their roster to attempt to bring in the next big star. They could have made the same foolish Westbrook trade the Lakers did. |
Denver really didn't do anything unique in terms of strategy. They drafted, made trades, went after free agents. If they have have a "template," its the same template that many other teams used. The difference is it worked out for Denver, and not for other teams.
But as others pointed out, this is the kind of thread that we see every year. As soon as a team wins a ring, people think they have a magical formula to follow. |
I agree that Denver didn't do anything unique. It's the Lakers whose off the wall, logic defying ideas to have overnight success by giving up picks and players to help Lebron, or firing a coach because he hasn't won in 2 years. THAT'S unique and not appreciated.
I don't think Denver's way is magic. It's normal and realistic.
I just don't like the Lakers' constant knee jerk reactions. |
It seems like you're just using a fake tie-in to Denver to justify a generic rant about the Lakers management. I don't mind the rant, I just don't understand why this needed to be a new thread. |
Upon reflection, Denver and many other teams do business the way you said. It’s the Lakers who are different. Admitting that I admire someone successfully doing business in a normal way is fake? Ok.
My original post wasn’t ranting. My stating the reasons behind the original post that expressed admiration for doing business in a more normal way only came out in responses to other posters.
P.s. The emperor is naked.
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"No franchise cornerstone"
Ok now I'm confused
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/brandon-ingram-playoff-stats
https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/jamal-murray-playoff-stats
Good wings literally make or break teams. AG was so paramount to the Nuggets winning the chip. Prior to that it was Wiggins. The ability to not be exploited on defense, switch 1-5, when the playoffs are all about going after the little guy. It's why I'm so high on guys like Siakam, Miller, Tatum, etc.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:44 am Post subject: Re: I’m Not a Nuggets fan, but… |
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| LakerFan1987 wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: | | activeverb wrote: | | lakersboy wrote: |
Denver didn’t gut their roster to attempt to bring in the next big star. They could have made the same foolish Westbrook trade the Lakers did. |
Denver really didn't do anything unique in terms of strategy. They drafted, made trades, went after free agents. If they have have a "template," its the same template that many other teams used. The difference is it worked out for Denver, and not for other teams.
But as others pointed out, this is the kind of thread that we see every year. As soon as a team wins a ring, people think they have a magical formula to follow. |
I agree that Denver didn't do anything unique. It's the Lakers whose off the wall, logic defying ideas to have overnight success by giving up picks and players to help Lebron, or firing a coach because he hasn't won in 2 years. THAT'S unique and not appreciated.
I don't think Denver's way is magic. It's normal and realistic.
I just don't like the Lakers' constant knee jerk reactions. |
It seems like you're just using a fake tie-in to Denver to justify a generic rant about the Lakers management. I don't mind the rant, I just don't understand why this needed to be a new thread. |
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I’m not anti trades, but I am anti foolish decisions.
1st rd pick for Schroeder, gone; 1st rd pick for Westbrook, gone.
Randle and Zubac could have been used to acquire draft compensation, gone x 2.
The Lakers once received draft compensation for Gail Goodrich who left in ‘76 and drafted Magic Johnson 3 years later.
Don (who?) Ford was traded in the ‘79/80 season to Cleveland for the draft pick that turned into James Worthy in ‘82.
People who remember those transactions see value in assets that have been carelessly discarded.
We’ll never know how many of those probably 4 assets the Lakers didn’t get or needlessly traded would have become cost effective, productive pg’s, sg’s, wings, or bigs.
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Brandon Ingram has played 236 minutes in the playoffs for his whole career. That's not much of a basis for calling him a franchise cornerstone. In the regular season, Ingram has played at a borderline all-star level when healthy, but he has missed an increasing number of games as time goes by. He's not really young anymore. At this point, he is moving into mid-career. He posts decent counting numbers on offense, but the metrics tell us that his offense is just good, not great, and that his mediocre to poor defense diminishes his overall impact.
I agree about wings, which is why I keep banging that drum. Unfortunately, the ones who play defense are prized around the league. We've let a couple of them slip away, which is frustrating.
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Brandon Ingram has played 236 minutes in the playoffs for his whole career. That's not much of a basis for calling him a franchise cornerstone. In the regular season, Ingram has played at a borderline all-star level when healthy, but he has missed an increasing number of games as time goes by. He's not really young anymore. At this point, he is moving into mid-career. He posts decent counting numbers on offense, but the metrics tell us that his offense is just good, not great, and that his mediocre to poor defense diminishes his overall impact.
I agree about wings, which is why I keep banging that drum. Unfortunately, the ones who play defense are prized around the league. We've let a couple of them slip away, which is frustrating. |
LMAO he absolutely is a franchise cornerstone. Pels record with/without him is insane. 30-26 when he steps foot on the court and 7-20 when he doesn't. And that's without a legitimate 2nd or 3rd option. I kinda wonder how far they can go when Zion stops playing around and takes the game seriously. Hoping Ingram plays for a real team like Heat or Celtics one day. Then he'll be overrated like the rest of them.
The old age thing never quite made sense, either. He's the same age as Tatum, who apparently never ages for some obscure reason. A year younger than Brown and Murray. I don't get the age thing at all when he has plenty left in the tank. He's never played for a good coach or in a sophisticated basketball program, but Willie is getting there. I'd be curious to see where he goes with a legitimate second option or third option.
I hope the NBA keeps sleeping on him. Maybe Lakers can land him because he goes under the radar all the time. The naked dance thing still stands.
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| Denny_Russo wrote: | LMAO he absolutely is a franchise cornerstone. Pels record with/without him is insane. 30-26 when he steps foot on the court and 7-20 when he doesn't. And that's without a legitimate 2nd or 3rd option. I kinda wonder how far they can go when Zion stops playing around and takes the game seriously. Hoping Ingram plays for a real team like Heat or Celtics one day. Then he'll be overrated like the rest of them.
The old age thing never quite made sense, either. He's the same age as Tatum, who apparently never ages for some obscure reason. A year younger than Brown and Murray. I don't get the age thing at all when he has plenty left in the tank. He's never played for a good coach or in a sophisticated basketball program, but Willie is getting there. I'd be curious to see where he goes with a legitimate second option or third option.
I hope the NBA keeps sleeping on him. Maybe Lakers can land him because he goes under the radar all the time. The naked dance thing still stands. |
The difference in W-L records is driven more by who they have to replace him than by how good he is. The metrics tell us that he doesn't have anywhere near the impact that you're suggesting. Even his raw on-off +/- is about +2.
I didn't say anything about old age. I said that he isn't young anymore and that he is entering mid-career. That's a fact. Players can continue to improve after age 25, but the likely rate of improvement slows dramatically.
If he ever stays healthy for 70+ games, Ingram could have a career year and make the all-star game again. I might even slip onto the all-NBA team. But a franchise cornerstone? Not so far.
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LMAO he absolutely is a franchise cornerstone. |
Ingram has played 7 seasons. He has only played more than 62 games once, in his rookie year. His career has mostly been a series of announcements that he will "miss 6 to 8 weeks" or "miss the rest of the season" because of (neck muscle contusion, deep vein thrombosis, pinky finger surgery, fill in the blank).
He has made one all-star team and he's never made an all-NBA team.
Is that really a franchise cornerstone? Maybe for a franchise that is a perennial lottery team, as the Pelicans have been. If the NBA started over from scratch and teams had to draft every player again, I am not sure Ingram is taken in the first round as one of the first 30 players |
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| activeverb wrote: | | Denny_Russo wrote: |
LMAO he absolutely is a franchise cornerstone. |
Ingram has played 7 seasons. He has only played more than 62 games once, in his rookie year. His career has mostly been a series of announcements that he will "miss 6 to 8 weeks" or "miss the rest of the season" because of (neck muscle contusion, deep vein thrombosis, pinky finger surgery, fill in the blank).
He has made one all-star team and he's never made an all-NBA team.
Is that really a franchise cornerstone? Maybe for a franchise that is a perennial lottery team, as the Pelicans have been. If the NBA started over from scratch and teams had to draft every player again, I am not sure Ingram is taken in the first round as one of the first 30 players |
I agree with that. His lack of availability is the only valid criticism I've seen against him. The rest of it is basically cherry picking certain metrics and not watching the games in the context of his bottom of the barrel supporting cast and franchise. Everything gets derailed by how injury-prone he is. Looking at his last 2-3 month numbers, he's putting up something like 28/7/7 on 50/39/90. Those efficiency metrics are insane for a forward. I was browing the Pels forums to troll them and they'd rather trade Zion. Can't disagree with that. Apparently they are super high on him. The future is definitely forward.
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | ContagiousInspiration wrote: | No injuries all season iirc... not easy to repeat
Anyhow.. this guy must be seeking Sainthood
“We won because we are not rooting for ourselves…we are rooting for the person next to us. I’m rooting for Jamal and everyone else, and they are rooting for me.”
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Or maybe he just isn’t into pantomiming putting a fake crown on his head? |
Probably isn't into making commercials calling himself the "king of LA" and not winning a damn thing either. |
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