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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:41 am    Post subject:

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Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.



IF your perimeter players are good enough to handle the
scoring, then you need someone to clog the paint (ala,
Luke Longley in Chicago).

I'm not saying he'0s that guy but what if he can become that
guy? This guy is a better passer and probably a worst shooter.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:46 am    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.


Not a leaper, which is fine, but he also doesn't seem to able to do much with his left hand.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:49 am    Post subject:

deal wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.



IF your perimeter players are good enough to handle the
scoring, then you need someone to clog the paint (ala,
Luke Longley in Chicago).

I'm not saying he'0s that guy but what if he can become that
guy? This guy is a better passer and probably a worst shooter.


He's not that good of a defender, he is just a big body.

Doesn't move his feet well, doesn't have lateral quickness, nor have that good of awareness.

I don't think he is trash defensively, but his defense isn't gonna translate well on the elite level.

A good comparison is Jay Huff, though I think Huff is a better player.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:51 am    Post subject:

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Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.


Not a leaper, which is fine, but he also doesn't seem to able to do much with his left hand.


He has a left, he rarely uses it.

He isn't that good on his left side, he rarely goes there.

He wants to get back to his right.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 10:52 am    Post subject:

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deal wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.



IF your perimeter players are good enough to handle the
scoring, then you need someone to clog the paint (ala,
Luke Longley in Chicago).

I'm not saying he'0s that guy but what if he can become that
guy? This guy is a better passer and probably a worst shooter.


He's not that good of a defender, he is just a big body.

Doesn't move his feet well, doesn't have lateral quickness, nor have that good of awareness.

I don't think he is trash defensively, but his defense isn't gonna translate well on the elite level.

A good comparison is Jay Huff, though I think Huff is a better player.


Your description is the opposite of what I've seen in his highlights.

Seems to switch ok on guards. Is able to actually handle the rock in transition. Great half court passing. 3 blocks per game as a rim protector.

This is a UDFA. Excellent pickup.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:05 am    Post subject:

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deal wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.



IF your perimeter players are good enough to handle the
scoring, then you need someone to clog the paint (ala,
Luke Longley in Chicago).

I'm not saying he'0s that guy but what if he can become that
guy? This guy is a better passer and probably a worst shooter.


He's not that good of a defender, he is just a big body.

Doesn't move his feet well, doesn't have lateral quickness, nor have that good of awareness.

I don't think he is trash defensively, but his defense isn't gonna translate well on the elite level.

A good comparison is Jay Huff, though I think Huff is a better player.


Your description is the opposite of what I've seen in his highlights.

Seems to switch ok on guards. Is able to actually handle the rock in transition. Great half court passing. 3 blocks per game as a rim protector.

This is a UDFA. Excellent pickup.


Watch the games.

He doesn't move well, doesn't have lateral quickness, doesn't have that good of defensive awareness.

He's not an athlete by any stretch of the imagination.

He gets blocks on the college level because he is a big body.

Isn't a good shooter, but I suppose he could have upside in that if he only works on that and that is his only role.

He isn't a good post player and is only effective spinning to his right.

He is a good roller on his right, not his left.

He rarely spins to his left, whether post or pick, because he doesn't really use his left.

He could use his left, he rarely does.

He is a decent passer, dribbler, has a good touch by the rim, and have good IQ.

To me he is compared to Jay Huff.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:17 am    Post subject:

^ Ergo he's undrafted. He's not going to be a low post main option.

He will have probably a limited role that he will work on getting better at. You seem to think he has to be some 5 tool center. I'm hoping he can be a 2 tool center who isn't a traffic cone on defense and a big man passer in the half court.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:18 am    Post subject:

You guys are right, dumb signing.

I only want undrafted guys that can put up 20 pts 12 reb and 3 blks

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:22 am    Post subject:

He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard anything could happen because hard work pays off.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:24 am    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard. Anything could happen because hard work pays off.


Please post your thoughts on UDFA Austin Reaves from 2 years ago too please.

UDFAs won't pan out, but to lay 1st round pick expectations on a UDFA is insane.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:26 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard. Anything could happen because hard work pays off.


Please post your thoughts on UDFA Austin Reaves from 2 years ago too please.

UDFAs won't pan out, but to lay 1st round pick expectations on a UDFA is insane.


You could see me in the 1st and 2nd page of that thread saying Austin Reaves is good.

Me saying he needs to be signed to a regular contract.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:30 am    Post subject:

Me on the 2nd page of the Austin Reaves thread.

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He needs to be signed to the regular roster. I get 2-way so he can still play, get better, and not just sit on the bench. He may be big time in this league though, given the opportunity.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 11:51 am    Post subject:

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Me on the 2nd page of the Austin Reaves thread.

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He needs to be signed to the regular roster. I get 2-way so he can still play, get better, and not just sit on the bench. He may be big time in this league though, given the opportunity.


Nice! Good to see you have faith in AR.

I just disagree about Castleton. For a UDFA I think it's a great move. When you get in the NBA, you don't become a 5 tool master as a UDFA. He'll focus in on the things that will keep him on the court.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 2:00 pm    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Me on the 2nd page of the Austin Reaves thread.

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He needs to be signed to the regular roster. I get 2-way so he can still play, get better, and not just sit on the bench. He may be big time in this league though, given the opportunity.


Nice! Good to see you have faith in AR.

I just disagree about Castleton. For a UDFA I think it's a great move. When you get in the NBA, you don't become a 5 tool master as a UDFA. He'll focus in on the things that will keep him on the court.


I'll say this, because I don't wanna make it seem like I'm ragging on him.

I think it is a good move because it is a 2 way. It's not like a regular contract and he has to work for it.

Let's see what he gots and if he doesn't workout, no big deal.

But he does have potential to being good.

I feel what holds him back the most (and this may sound small, but it's not) is him not wanting to go left.

If he had a consistent left hand, spinned left in the post or picking, he would be a top pick, no question.

He would've dominated college.

He has a good touch around the rim, even with his left.

It kinda annoys me that he doesn't do it often, he does it rarely.

He shows flashes of good footwork in the post, going to his right.

Good fundamentals, keeps the ball high and use his length.

Good IQ.

So, I'm not mad at the pick up.

Now, it is up to him how far he goes, but I'll tell you this, if he works on his left and going left, he'll be that much better offensively.

If he focus on defense, he could carve out a niche on the Lakers.

If Lakers bring in a veteran big, that could help him a lot.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 3:23 pm    Post subject:

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Love the passing and rim protection. Slow release but hopefully he can stretch his jumper out to the arc.

very good post moves too


Curious to see how he moves his feet defensively in summer league. Draft Twitter guys seem to think he has just enough to hold his own in more than just the standard drop. We’ll see if that is true.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 7:58 pm    Post subject:

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The guy repping Reaves, had this to say about the guy we just got on a two-way!

https://twitter.com/AMRAgency/status/1672130063125315584


Yep, yep, yep. The guy repping them is Aaron Reilly. He directed Castleton to do take the exact same route to the league. He called teams to ask them not to draft him because he wanted to pick his own landing spot.

I'm forecasting it now: I think we have another gem to develop.: Reilly is directing some real valuable talent our way.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:13 pm    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard. Anything could happen because hard work pays off.


Please post your thoughts on UDFA Austin Reaves from 2 years ago too please.

UDFAs won't pan out, but to lay 1st round pick expectations on a UDFA is insane.


You could see me in the 1st and 2nd page of that thread saying Austin Reaves is good.

Me saying he needs to be signed to a regular contract.



Give it a little time. Facts to consider:

He & Austin have the same agent

Their agent has directed them to follow the same route to the league: call teams to ask them not to draft him so that he could pick his spot

Their agent was super jacked up about Austin. He's expressing the same type of enthusiasm for Castle.

I notice everyone's focus is on what he can't do, instead of what he can do. He can put on weight. He can handle the rock adequately. He can block shots. I bet anyone on here, based on a pattern I've noticed, is that he has a nice bball iq. He gives me the impression he has that same tough fiber material as Austin.

On a lighter note, he and Austin wore the same numbers in college, and their birthdays are four days a part.

Their agent's got some talent in his stable. Again, give it time.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 8:38 pm    Post subject:

LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard. Anything could happen because hard work pays off.


Please post your thoughts on UDFA Austin Reaves from 2 years ago too please.

UDFAs won't pan out, but to lay 1st round pick expectations on a UDFA is insane.


You could see me in the 1st and 2nd page of that thread saying Austin Reaves is good.

Me saying he needs to be signed to a regular contract.



Give it a little time. Facts to consider:

He & Austin have the same agent

Their agent has directed them to follow the same route to the league: call teams to ask them not to draft him so that he could pick his spot

Their agent was super jacked up about Austin. He's expressing the same type of enthusiasm for Castle.

I notice everyone's focus is on what he can't do, instead of what he can do. He can put on weight. He can handle the rock adequately. He can block shots. I bet anyone on here, based on a pattern I've noticed, is that he has a nice bball iq. He gives me the impression he has that same tough fiber material as Austin.

On a lighter note, he and Austin wore the same numbers in college, and their birthdays are four days a part.

Their agent's got some talent in his stable. Again, give it time.


I focused on what he can and can't do in this thread.

Thank you for the information.

I have no expectations, but I'm hoping for the best, to be honest.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2023 9:55 pm    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
LakerDYnasty72 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
He is a 2 way player, so I definitely think he'll be good on our G league team.

Same as I think he'll do well on our summer league team.

I see people talking about his contribution on the team, and I don't see that.

But who knows, if he works hard. Anything could happen because hard work pays off.


Please post your thoughts on UDFA Austin Reaves from 2 years ago too please.

UDFAs won't pan out, but to lay 1st round pick expectations on a UDFA is insane.


You could see me in the 1st and 2nd page of that thread saying Austin Reaves is good.

Me saying he needs to be signed to a regular contract.



Give it a little time. Facts to consider:

He & Austin have the same agent

Their agent has directed them to follow the same route to the league: call teams to ask them not to draft him so that he could pick his spot

Their agent was super jacked up about Austin. He's expressing the same type of enthusiasm for Castle.

I notice everyone's focus is on what he can't do, instead of what he can do. He can put on weight. He can handle the rock adequately. He can block shots. I bet anyone on here, based on a pattern I've noticed, is that he has a nice bball iq. He gives me the impression he has that same tough fiber material as Austin.

On a lighter note, he and Austin wore the same numbers in college, and their birthdays are four days a part.

Their agent's got some talent in his stable. Again, give it time.


I focused on what he can and can't do in this thread.

Thank you for the information.

I have no expectations, but I'm hoping for the best, to be honest.


Yes, you did cover a few of the things he does. You're welcome.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:16 am    Post subject:



Castleton at GLeague Elite Camp
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:21 am    Post subject:



Castleton with 25 points versus Kentucky and Oscar Tshiebwe 2/4/2023
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 8:23 am    Post subject:



Castleton Scouting Report
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:54 am    Post subject:

yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
deal wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Not that good of a player.

Don't have high hopes on him because you will be very disappointed.

I think he'll do well in summer league though.



IF your perimeter players are good enough to handle the
scoring, then you need someone to clog the paint (ala,
Luke Longley in Chicago).

I'm not saying he'0s that guy but what if he can become that
guy? This guy is a better passer and probably a worst shooter.


He's not that good of a defender, he is just a big body.

Doesn't move his feet well, doesn't have lateral quickness, nor have that good of awareness.

I don't think he is trash defensively, but his defense isn't gonna translate well on the elite level.

A good comparison is Jay Huff, though I think Huff is a better player.


Your description is the opposite of what I've seen in his highlights.

Seems to switch ok on guards. Is able to actually handle the rock in transition. Great half court passing. 3 blocks per game as a rim protector.

This is a UDFA. Excellent pickup.


Highlights are called highlights for a reason. They aren’t going to show anything negative.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:54 am    Post subject:

Outspoken wrote:
yinoma2001 wrote:
Outspoken wrote:
Me on the 2nd page of the Austin Reaves thread.

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He needs to be signed to the regular roster. I get 2-way so he can still play, get better, and not just sit on the bench. He may be big time in this league though, given the opportunity.


Nice! Good to see you have faith in AR.

I just disagree about Castleton. For a UDFA I think it's a great move. When you get in the NBA, you don't become a 5 tool master as a UDFA. He'll focus in on the things that will keep him on the court.


I'll say this, because I don't wanna make it seem like I'm ragging on him.

I think it is a good move because it is a 2 way. It's not like a regular contract and he has to work for it.

Let's see what he gots and if he doesn't workout, no big deal.

But he does have potential to being good.

I feel what holds him back the most (and this may sound small, but it's not) is him not wanting to go left.

If he had a consistent left hand, spinned left in the post or picking, he would be a top pick, no question.

He would've dominated college.

He has a good touch around the rim, even with his left.

It kinda annoys me that he doesn't do it often, he does it rarely.

He shows flashes of good footwork in the post, going to his right.

Good fundamentals, keeps the ball high and use his length.

Good IQ.

So, I'm not mad at the pick up.

Now, it is up to him how far he goes, but I'll tell you this, if he works on his left and going left, he'll be that much better offensively.

If he focus on defense, he could carve out a niche on the Lakers.

If Lakers bring in a veteran big, that could help him a lot.




Looking at the hightlights he right..All his moves are to the right..
Maybe his practice over the summer will be assistants putting his right hand in a sling and telling him go play a couple of games of 21 or Gym games..shrug


Another thing thats kind of questionable is he likes laying the ball up or
using the backboard when he could simply power up and dunk the ball.

However he reminds me of Zu he can swat your stuff and does move with the drvier to swat without getting in foul trouble..

I guess it will be a see what happens in Summer league time.
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