Not thrilled with this signing but ok for the BAE I guess
Why not? This is one of the best signings this free agency
Can he sign agile swingmen? That's our biggest defensive hole. If you can't stick him on like a Beal/Booker or Murray type then eh. I always took him to be more of a 3/4 a la Rui but I'd love to be wrong, can't claim to be a Taurean Prince expert
Not thrilled with this signing but ok for the BAE I guess
Why not? This is one of the best signings this free agency
Can he sign agile swingmen? That's our biggest defensive hole. If you can't stick him on like a Beal/Booker or Murray type then eh. I always took him to be more of a 3/4 a la Rui but I'd love to be wrong, can't claim to be a Taurean Prince expert
Not thrilled with this signing but ok for the BAE I guess
Why not? This is one of the best signings this free agency
Can he sign agile swingmen? That's our biggest defensive hole. If you can't stick him on like a Beal/Booker or Murray type then eh. I always took him to be more of a 3/4 a la Rui but I'd love to be wrong, can't claim to be a Taurean Prince expert
Like who?
Maybe no one was available esp at BAE. I'm not blaming management bc I'm not sure anyone else better was available (DDV at MLE?), I'm just saying I'm underwhelmed.
Prince is a great fit here. I think he slides in easily with the current guys and new guys. He won’t be nailed to the bench like Troy Brown or Beas. Also, people are severely underrating JHS defense and how he can guard wings. _________________ You mystified at what exists inside
The thing we have been lacking for years is size on the wing. We now have 3 guys (outside of Bron) who can really play: Rui, Vando, Prince
Love it. But also, does this make Rui expendable? I doubt it.
Yeah, we definitely ordered the wings lover off the market menu. And, we also added serious size in the backcourt with JHS & Lewis. JHS projects to be a 6'5 pg & Lewis projects to be a 6'7 shooting guard. That's great size.
We're building size across each position. It's the best alternative when you don't have a 7' plus dominate big like we've historically had like Wilt, Kareem, Shaq, Pau, etc.,
I'm coming around on this. Vincent apparently has the toughness to guard a Murray type (smaller but physical guard). Probably Beal too? I like him for the TBJ role, but imagine he can actually get minutes in the playoffs.
Not thrilled with this signing but ok for the BAE I guess
Why not? This is one of the best signings this free agency
Can he sign agile swingmen? That's our biggest defensive hole. If you can't stick him on like a Beal/Booker or Murray type then eh. I always took him to be more of a 3/4 a la Rui but I'd love to be wrong, can't claim to be a Taurean Prince expert
Like who?
Maybe no one was available esp at BAE. I'm not blaming management bc I'm not sure anyone else better was available (DDV at MLE?), I'm just saying I'm underwhelmed.
Not thrilled with this signing but ok for the BAE I guess
Why not? This is one of the best signings this free agency
Can he sign agile swingmen? That's our biggest defensive hole. If you can't stick him on like a Beal/Booker or Murray type then eh. I always took him to be more of a 3/4 a la Rui but I'd love to be wrong, can't claim to be a Taurean Prince expert
Like who?
Maybe no one was available esp at BAE. I'm not blaming management bc I'm not sure anyone else better was available (DDV at MLE?), I'm just saying I'm underwhelmed.
Donte got 4 yr @50m. So seems like the mle. Say he wanted to sign here.
Then the Lakers still need a backup PG.
Underwhelmed is fine.
Lakers just needed to improve on the fringes. I think we did. But we'll see how it looks on court. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
Anyone know how athletic Prince is and how well he finishes in transition?
He looks like an old man out there. But moves well enough?
Averaged 2 transition plays a game.
About 1 ppp. 31 percentile. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
Pretty much on the same level as Donte Divincenzo, who just signed a 4yr/50m deal with the Knicks. Identical stats and efficiency. Same roles. Aside from age, TP has the slight advantage because of his height and interchangeability.
And we got both Prince and Dlo for less than half the price of guys like DD and FVV.
Insane if you ask me. Cost efficient contracts that one can only dream of.
If they are happy with him, he'll get that Divicenzo money sooner or later. _________________ Yi Jianlian Fanboy. Respect The Chair.
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It would have been a great signing 2-3 years ago but I still like it. Recognizing the salary constraints, he can be a good help in games 1-82. _________________ RIP mom. 11-21-1933 to 6-14-2023.
Anyone know how athletic Prince is and how well he finishes in transition?
He looks like an old man out there. But moves well enough?
Averaged 2 transition plays a game.
About 1 ppp. 31 percentile.
Physically looks like an old man? Like it would be hard to guess his age? Or physically as in moves like an old man?
He’s definitely spry. Nearly killed us with that steal in the play-in game jumping the passing lane on that inbounds to LeBron from Reaves. (Nearly killed us in general in that game.) Finishes well enough. Not an issue. Can attack off the dribble and moves well with the ball.
Regarding the move in general… I think we got lucky here. I’m not sure what our other options were if the Wolves weren’t looking to trim some salary (and possibly resign him). But we really could have gone sideways or backwards with the BAE. We upgrade here (hard not to).
Troy really should have been guarding twos and not threes. We downgrade on rebounding, unfortunately. Troy at least had a nose for the ball. But overall two-way production and two-way minutes is an upgrade. Troy could go into ghost mode and give you nothing for 20 minutes. A few buckets here or there from him would have made a huge difference on a nightly basis.
This should prevent more of those small three guard lineups. We should also be much better off for the X number of games LeBron is out or load managing.
he's the same height, weight, and wingspan as tbj with a much worse rebounding and turnover rate. i don't see how this is an upgrade
It might just be a lateral moved. Which isn't a bad thing.
The money is pretty close too.
Prince does have a slight edge on wide open 3s and catch and shoot 3 % wise. Slight.
Prince is an inch taller with an inch longer wingspan per combine measurements.
Both these guys are actually 6'6" with no sneakers on
Doesn’t much matter, but what is your source on their height? Mine is NBA.com official combine measurements
Prince: 6’6.5” wo shoes, 6’11.5” wingspan
Brown Jr: 6’5.75” wo shoes, 6’10.25” wingspan
Anyone know how athletic Prince is and how well he finishes in transition?
He looks like an old man out there. But moves well enough?
Averaged 2 transition plays a game.
About 1 ppp. 31 percentile.
Physically looks like an old man? Like it would be hard to guess his age? Or physically as in moves like an old man?
He’s definitely spry. Nearly killed us with that steal in the play-in game jumping the passing lane on that inbounds to LeBron from Reaves. (Nearly killed us in general in that game.) Finishes well enough. Not an issue. Can attack off the dribble and moves well with the ball.
Regarding the move in general… I think we got lucky here. I’m not sure what our other options were if the Wolves weren’t looking to trim some salary (and possibly resign him). But we really could have gone sideways or backwards with the BAE. We upgrade here (hard not to).
Troy really should have been guarding twos and not threes. We downgrade on rebounding, unfortunately. Troy at least had a nose for the ball. But overall two-way production and two-way minutes is an upgrade. Troy could go into ghost mode and give you nothing for 20 minutes. A few buckets here or there from him would have made a huge difference on a nightly basis.
This should prevent more of those small three guard lineups. We should also be much better off for the X number of games LeBron is out or load managing.
Wow. He's only 28. For some reason I thought he was older when he left Atlanta. I guess it was just something in my mind that didn't match reality. Cuz looking at him now, he doesn't seem old haha.
Good analysis! He should definitely be more consistent than TB. _________________ 💜💛 🏆 👀 🍖 #18!!!
For the BAE a good signing. Wonder if the Lakers considered Jalen McDaniels for the same price point.
With Gabe/Prince (and maybe theoretically Cam), we've added some more shooting from the perimeter. That's a good move. _________________ From 2-10 to the Western Conference Finals
For the BAE a good signing. Wonder if the Lakers considered Jalen McDaniels for the same price point.
With Gabe/Prince (and maybe theoretically Cam), we've added some more shooting from the perimeter. That's a good move.
I like the potential of McDaniels.. but Prince is the more developed/consistent of the two.
Reddish is the guy with upside.. we'll see if they can unlock it.
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