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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:38 am    Post subject: Dodgers 2024 Thread

Figured someone might as well do it. Let's kick off the free agency period .

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: Dodgers 2024 Thread

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Figured someone might as well do it. Let's kick off the free agency period .

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2023 5:40 pm    Post subject:

The Mariners are kinda scaring me as a wildcard for Shohei
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The Mariners are kinda scaring me as a wildcard for Shohei


2022 was the first time the Mariners had made the playoffs since Ichiro's MVP/ROY 2001 season. The Angels have a far more storied post season history than the Mariners.

If he truly wants to win a World Series, he should look elsewhere. No matter how promising their team might be now and in the near future, he's basically making a lateral move between average teams/franchises. He'd still be in the AL West looking up at TEX and HOU in the division.

Perhaps I'm just looking at this with my Dodger rose-colored glasses, but it just doesn't make sense to me if winning a championship is a priority to him. It feels like it'll come down to a big market team like Dodgers/Yankees/Red Sox/Mets(?) to give him the best chance to win.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:55 am    Post subject:

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There is believed to be mutual interest between the Dodgers and Jason Heyward in the free-agent outfielder returning for 2024, especially with Betts expected to spend significant time at second base again next season.



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After two injury-plagued seasons, the Dodgers decided the third time was the charm for Blake Treinen, exercising the 2024 club option for the veteran reliever. Treinen is back at a reported cost of $1 million.

While Treinen was recovering from that first shoulder injury, in May 2022, the Dodgers extended his contract for a year, guaranteeing what was previously an $8 million option for 2023 while adding a conditional option for 2024 based on his time on the mound. In October, Fabian Ardaya at The Athletic reported that Treinen’s salary would likely be at the lowest end of the $1-7 million option range. On Sunday, Jack Harris at the Los Angeles Times also reported Treinen’s salary would be $1 million.


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After signing Max Muncy to a two-year deal on Thursday, the Dodgers declined their club options on pitchers Lance Lynn, Joe Kelly, Daniel Hudson, and Alex Reyes.

The team now has 35 players on the 40-man roster.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:08 am    Post subject:

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Dodgers Are 'Overwhelming' Favorites To Sign Shohei Ohtani

No one knows when he'll pitch again, but Ohtani will still sign a contract north of $400 million, but not necessarily the $500 million once expected.

Bob Nightengale calls the Los Angeles Dodgers "the overwhelming favorites" to sign Ohtani, while the Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees, New York Mets, Toronto Blue Jays, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners, San Diego Padres and Texas Rangers will all make strong pushes.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:17 am    Post subject:

ESPN predicts where Ohtani will sign:

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Shohei Ohtani, SP/DH (29 years old)

Doolittle: Los Angeles Dodgers.

All along I've thought he's going to sign with the Dodgers, and I suspect that is the strongest possibility. The Dodgers went a little light on maximizing their roster last year in order to stay flexible enough for this pursuit. So I'm going to go with them, though I could see the San Francisco Giants or Seattle Mariners, or even the Rangers, leaping into this race. But I just think the Dodgers are the perfect fit for Ohtani, with their history of working with starting pitchers, the availability that they have at the designated hitter slot and the fact they always win -- not to mention the continued visibility for Ohtani in the L.A. market. In terms of money, there isn't an offer that the Dodgers can't match.


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Olney: Dodgers.

A friend of Ohtani said he believes Ohtani already knows where he wants to sign. He'll go through the process -- standing back as his agent negotiates and works to goose the final numbers -- but in the end, Ohtani will drive this thing. So maybe the bidding doesn't matter that much, so long as the team he wants to play for steps up with a decent offer. And my guess is that'll be the Dodgers. One person in the Dodgers' organization said president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman is "obsessed" with Ohtani and that Friedman will put L.A. in position to land him. Ohtani would make the most sense, at this moment, for the Rangers -- they have a blank checkbook and the time to let him heal as a pitcher -- but I think Ohtani picks Southern California, again.


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Passan: Dodgers.

If there is a chalk pick to make, this is it, though I offer it with a low degree of confidence because there are plenty of viable suitors for Ohtani. The New York Mets have the owner most willing to spend money. The Giants have the greatest need for a franchise player. The Boston Red Sox are looking to overhaul their roster, and adding the best player in baseball certainly would do that. The Rangers would love to add to their championship squad. The Toronto Blue Jays and Chicago Cubs have the money and the need. Even though Ohtani won't pitch in 2024 because of elbow surgery, the sheer number of options will make him the first $500 million player in North American professional sports history.


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Schoenfield: Rangers.

Look, we don't know yet if Ray Davis is the type of owner to push the pedal to the metal and go even higher on his payroll, but I just wanted to type out this potential lineup:

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2B Marcus Semien
SS Corey Seager
DH Shohei Ohtani
RF Adolis Garcia
CF Evan Carter
3B Josh Jung
1B Nathaniel Lowe
C Jonah Heim
LF Wyatt Langford


That could be the first 1,000-run lineup since Cleveland in 1999.

The Rangers would soar past the luxury tax in 2024, but Martin Perez ($19.65 million), Brad Miller ($4 million), Mitch Garver ($3.9 million), Ian Kennedy ($2.25 million), Robbie Grossman ($2 million) and Jake Odorizzi ($2 million) are off the books. That's almost $34 million.

Max Scherzer (they're responsible for $23 million of his salary), Nathan Eovaldi ($17 million) and Andrew Heaney ($13 million) are free agents after 2024 (Eovaldi has a vesting option), so the Rangers will be looking for rotation options anyway for 2025, when Ohtani would pitch again. But that lineup would be absolutely spectacular.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:22 am    Post subject:

Yoshinobu Yamamoto, SP (25)

ESPN predicts where he lands. None predicts LAD:

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Doolittle: Red Sox.

Yamamoto is picking a perfect time to come over. Everyone got to see him in the World Baseball Classic, and that was impressive enough, but then he put up a 1.16 ERA over 171 innings in Japan this season while allowing just two home runs.

He played in a league with a much lower homer rate than MLB, but that's still sick. On top of all that, there are a lot of teams in need of a top-of-the-rotation starter. One of those teams is the Red Sox, whose new GM, Craig Breslow, is a former MLB hurler and whose rookie left fielder last season was Masataka Yoshida. As recently as 2022, Yoshida was the top hitter on the Orix Buffaloes. The top pitcher on that team? Yamamoto, of course.


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Olney: New York Yankees.

You might have heard that they had a down year in 2023, and if you look back at GM Brian Cashman's history, whenever he gets into trouble, he has the same reflex -- he grabs for pitching, perhaps believing it provides the best and quickest jolt. After a rough 2008, he coaxed Hal Steinbrenner into paying record-setting money for CC Sabathia, and then he did the same after the Red Sox won in 2018, landing Gerrit Cole. And my bet is that with the back end of the rotation thinned out, New York will make a move on Yamamoto.


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Passan: Yankees.

While it's true the Yankees have a full rotation already, with Cole, Carlos Rodon, Nestor Cortes, Michael King and Clark Schmidt, the prospect of adding Yamamoto is too tempting to pass up. It's not just that they've had great success with Japanese pitchers -- such as Hiroki Kuroda and Masahiro Tanaka, the latter of whom is perhaps the most comparable to Yamamoto in age and success when he came to MLB -- but the Yankees need to get younger, and they would be getting a prime-aged player without having to trade away any talent. Building around starting pitching is not the sort of strategy most modern teams embrace, but with a weak class of bats, it's the best option for the Yankees.


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Schoenfield: Mets.

New president of baseball operations David Stearns played it down the middle in his introductory news conference, saying the goal is to make the team as competitive as possible in 2024 "while understanding that the long-term goal and the way to win a World Series is to have a truly sustainable competitiveness." Yamamoto fits both criteria: He can help immediately -- and the Mets need starters after trading Verlander and Max Scherzer -- and he's young enough to anchor the rotation for years to come. The Mets had great success with Kodai Senga in 2023, and Yamamoto is even better.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:03 am    Post subject:

not high on Shohei, especially now he's just gonna be a DH full time. and it's not Friedman's M.O. to chase some well publicized free agents anyway, he likes to dig through dumpster from Tampa Bay just like Coletti did with the Giants. the most important thing is have we learned our lessons already? big time hitter ALWAYS forgot how to hit when postseason comes after they join the Dodgers. we need to find out the real reason behind this. we need some mental tough guys on this team, don't need to be super stars, but they don't afraid of the big moments.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:07 am    Post subject:

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Dodgers Are 'Overwhelming' Favorites To Sign Shohei Ohtani

No one knows when he'll pitch again, but Ohtani will still sign a contract north of $400 million, but not necessarily the $500 million once expected.

Bob Nightengale calls the Los Angeles Dodgers "the overwhelming favorites" to sign Ohtani, while the Chicago Cubs, Boston Red Sox, New York Yankees, New York Mets, Toronto Blue Jays, San Francisco Giants, Seattle Mariners, San Diego Padres and Texas Rangers will all make strong pushes.


This reminds me of good old days when everyone think Lakers were the overwhelmingly favorite to land (name your top free agents from past years here).
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not high on Shohei, especially now he's just gonna be a DH full time. and it's not Friedman's M.O. to chase some well publicized free agents anyway, he likes to dig through dumpster from Tampa Bay just like Coletti did with the Giants. the most important thing is have we learned our lessons already? big time hitter ALWAYS forgot how to hit when postseason comes after they join the Dodgers. we need to find out the real reason behind this. we need some mental tough guys on this team, don't need to be super stars, but they don't afraid of the big moments.


It's not just a baseball decision. Don't forget about that. It's a business decision.

Ohtani is great for business, great for the Dodger brand. He's going to grow the Dodger brand so much, especially in Japan and Asia.

I wouldn't be surprised if the owners gave Friedman an edict of Ohtani or bust (from a business/marketing perspective).

Is Babe Ruth remembered as a Yankee or a Red Sox?

Is Shaq remembered as a Laker or a Magic?

Kevin Garnett? Dude spent most of his years as a Timberwolf and no one remembers. Dude is always and only linked to the Celtics nowadays.

Imagine Ohtani being remembered as a Dodger instead of an Angel.

That's what the Dodgers are buying. They want the Dodgers to be associated with Ohtani everytime his name is brought up in history. And Ohtani's name will be brought up constantly in history.

Like Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Vin Scully....
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:05 am    Post subject:

Wowo, David Ross got fired (or his contract expired). Craig Counsell is now their new manager:

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Chicago Cubs Hire Rival Manager, Replace Ross in Shocking Move

In a complete shock, the Chicago Cubs have hired highly coveted manager and former rival Craig Counsell to take over as their manager heading into 2024.

It was expected that the Chicago Cubs would have a very busy offseason and be major players in the trade and free agency markets.

One area that nobody expected them to be searching for was a new manager after ownership and the front office came out in support of David Ross following the disappointing end to their 2023 campaign.

But the Cubs made the most shocking move of the offseason and have hired former rival manager of the Milwaukee Brewers, Craig Counsell, to be their next manager according to Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic.

Counsell became the all-time winningest manager of the Brewers with 707 wins and led three NL Central titles and five postseason appearances in nine seasons as their skipper.

What prompted this move is unknown at this time, especially after Ross received support from the decision makers.

But with one of the best managers in the MLB on the market, Chicago made an aggressive move to get a proven figure into the mix as they attempt to become contenders once again.

The Cubs shelled out the most lucrative deals in Major League history to land Counsell.

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports that he will be the highest paid manager in history after getting a five-year deal worth more than $40 million.

More updates to come.

https://www.si.com/mlb/cubs/news/chicago-cubs-hire-rival-manager-replace-ross-shocking-move-brad9
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:47 am    Post subject:

LongBeachPoly wrote:
SGV-Laker fan wrote:
not high on Shohei, especially now he's just gonna be a DH full time. and it's not Friedman's M.O. to chase some well publicized free agents anyway, he likes to dig through dumpster from Tampa Bay just like Coletti did with the Giants. the most important thing is have we learned our lessons already? big time hitter ALWAYS forgot how to hit when postseason comes after they join the Dodgers. we need to find out the real reason behind this. we need some mental tough guys on this team, don't need to be super stars, but they don't afraid of the big moments.


It's not just a baseball decision. Don't forget about that. It's a business decision.

Ohtani is great for business, great for the Dodger brand. He's going to grow the Dodger brand so much, especially in Japan and Asia.

I wouldn't be surprised if the owners gave Friedman an edict of Ohtani or bust (from a business/marketing perspective).

Is Babe Ruth remembered as a Yankee or a Red Sox?

Is Shaq remembered as a Laker or a Magic?

Kevin Garnett? Dude spent most of his years as a Timberwolf and no one remembers. Dude is always and only linked to the Celtics nowadays.

Imagine Ohtani being remembered as a Dodger instead of an Angel.

That's what the Dodgers are buying. They want the Dodgers to be associated with Ohtani everytime his name is brought up in history. And Ohtani's name will be brought up constantly in history.

Like Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Vin Scully....


Yes you’re right. This is a scenario where if Friedman is some dollars short ownership may step in and say to Friedman that he has to pay the man.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 1:16 pm    Post subject:

Let's go Dodgers. NLCS or bust.
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LongBeachPoly wrote:
SGV-Laker fan wrote:
not high on Shohei, especially now he's just gonna be a DH full time. and it's not Friedman's M.O. to chase some well publicized free agents anyway, he likes to dig through dumpster from Tampa Bay just like Coletti did with the Giants. the most important thing is have we learned our lessons already? big time hitter ALWAYS forgot how to hit when postseason comes after they join the Dodgers. we need to find out the real reason behind this. we need some mental tough guys on this team, don't need to be super stars, but they don't afraid of the big moments.


It's not just a baseball decision. Don't forget about that. It's a business decision.

Ohtani is great for business, great for the Dodger brand. He's going to grow the Dodger brand so much, especially in Japan and Asia.

I wouldn't be surprised if the owners gave Friedman an edict of Ohtani or bust (from a business/marketing perspective).

Is Babe Ruth remembered as a Yankee or a Red Sox?

Is Shaq remembered as a Laker or a Magic?

Kevin Garnett? Dude spent most of his years as a Timberwolf and no one remembers. Dude is always and only linked to the Celtics nowadays.

Imagine Ohtani being remembered as a Dodger instead of an Angel.

That's what the Dodgers are buying. They want the Dodgers to be associated with Ohtani everytime his name is brought up in history. And Ohtani's name will be brought up constantly in history.

Like Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Vin Scully....


this sentiment may be valid before the social media/internet age. you need to be on a big market team to get your name exposed. but nowadays, if you're already a world wide household name, you can play for KC Royals and still get the same following and exposures as you play for Yankees and Dodgers. and vice versa, Dodgers and Yankees don't need to sign any big names for marketing purpose, their brand has already been established long time ago.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 2:39 pm    Post subject:

Ohtani will be remembered or forgotten by which team he is signing for during this off season. Are championships important to him or will he be comfortable with those fat paychecks like his fellow teammate Mike Trout playing in a low pressure environment.
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Ohtani will be remembered or forgotten by which team he is signing for during this off season. Are championships important to him or will he be comfortable with those fat paychecks like his fellow teammate Mike Trout playing in a low pressure environment.


exactly, Ohtani does not strike me as someone who's hungry for a World Series championship. for World Baseball Classic, maybe, but not sold on his dedication with MLB yet.
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not high on Shohei, especially now he's just gonna be a DH full time. and it's not Friedman's M.O. to chase some well publicized free agents anyway, he likes to dig through dumpster from Tampa Bay just like Coletti did with the Giants. the most important thing is have we learned our lessons already? big time hitter ALWAYS forgot how to hit when postseason comes after they join the Dodgers. we need to find out the real reason behind this. we need some mental tough guys on this team, don't need to be super stars, but they don't afraid of the big moments.


It's not just a baseball decision. Don't forget about that. It's a business decision.

Ohtani is great for business, great for the Dodger brand. He's going to grow the Dodger brand so much, especially in Japan and Asia.

I wouldn't be surprised if the owners gave Friedman an edict of Ohtani or bust (from a business/marketing perspective).

Is Babe Ruth remembered as a Yankee or a Red Sox?

Is Shaq remembered as a Laker or a Magic?

Kevin Garnett? Dude spent most of his years as a Timberwolf and no one remembers. Dude is always and only linked to the Celtics nowadays.

Imagine Ohtani being remembered as a Dodger instead of an Angel.

That's what the Dodgers are buying. They want the Dodgers to be associated with Ohtani everytime his name is brought up in history. And Ohtani's name will be brought up constantly in history.

Like Jackie Robinson, Sandy Koufax, Vin Scully....


this sentiment may be valid before the social media/internet age. you need to be on a big market team to get your name exposed. but nowadays, if you're already a world wide household name, you can play for KC Royals and still get the same following and exposures as you play for Yankees and Dodgers. and vice versa, Dodgers and Yankees don't need to sign any big names for marketing purpose, their brand has already been established long time ago.


Sure, the Dodgers don't NEED Ohtani. You're right.

But, they WANT Ohtani, for marketing purposes.

I mean, Forbes releases a team valuation list every year. A part of that valuation is name brand/marketing, etc.

Ohtani is just going to add to that. That's figured into the price they're willing to pay for him.

Ohtani brings a marketing value to any team he signs with. If you disagree with that, then I don't know what to say.
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The short answer is a lot.


It's almost impossible to put a number on Shohei Ohtani's value to the Angels. In the five years he's been there, Ohtani has become one of, if not, the face of baseball, establishing himself as the greatest two-way player in MLB history.

His impact is felt on the field, off the field and in all the merchandise and ticket sales for the team, bringing in millions of dollars in revenue every year.

While no one knows the exact number regarding what Ohtani brings to the club, ESPN's Alden Gonzalez was able to provide us with a ballpark estimation.

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"The exact figure is not known - and the Angels won’t provide one -- but Ohtani is said to annually generate somewhere in the low tens of millions of dollars in additional revenue for the team, a major reason he hasn’t been traded in the lead-up to his free agency."


Gonzalez explains that the Angels had seven Ohtani-related promotions last season, and in the five big ones, the team averaged 41,000 fans per game. In the other 76 home games, the average was less than 30,000 fans in the stands.

Moreover, Ohtani brings an entire country's fanbase with him from Japan. Gonzalez pointed out how many people he's truly bringing to the Angels' stadium, city and fanbase.

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"People fly from Japan to watch his games, bringing additional traffic to local restaurants and hotels and, in Anaheim’s case, theme parks. Upward of about 50 Japanese media members are credentialed to cover him on a full-time basis, promoting the Angels’ brand to a nation of 125 million people."


So when agents predict Ohtani may get upwards of a $500 million contract next offseason, it may not be as crazy as it sounds.

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Not only is Ohtani giving you a top-of-the-rotation ace and a top-of-the-lineup bat, he's also generating you tens of millions of dollars in revenue.


When you think about everything he brings to the team, it makes a lot of sense why the Angels are reluctant to trade him. But, at the same time, they better be ready for the all-out bidding war that's set to take place next offseason.

https://www.si.com/mlb/angels/news/angels-news-how-much-revenue-shohei-ohtani-generates-for-the-halos-nc2000




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Hoping to Stay in the Shohei Ohtani Business

Nobody understands the overall value of Ohtani more than the Angels. Club officials feel his impact daily as they watch the throng of fans entering Angel Stadium. They see it in the lines outside the team store as Ohtani merchandise flies off the shelves, including his jerseys, which are the second most popular in baseball behind Atlanta’s Ronald Acuña Jr. And visible reminders are all around the stadium via advertisements for tires (Yokohama), probiotic beverages (Yakult), imaging products (Konica Minolta) and felines (Churu, “Japan’s No. 1 cat treat”).

By the time Moreno announced this spring that his 124-day exploration of selling the club had finished and that he would maintain ownership, the franchise’s value, according to Forbes magazine, was $2.7 billion, a huge increase from the estimate of $1.8 billion when Ohtani joined the club — and an unfathomable leap from 2003, when Moreno purchased the team for $183 million.

The team is in the Ohtani business, and from ownership to the front office to the dugout, no one wants that to change.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/08/sports/baseball/shohei-ohtani-angels.html


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:00 pm    Post subject:

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Ohtani will be remembered or forgotten by which team he is signing for during this off season. Are championships important to him or will he be comfortable with those fat paychecks like his fellow teammate Mike Trout playing in a low pressure environment.


Ohtani wouldn't be guaranteeing himself a championship in choosing another team, but the Angels' track record doesn't inspire confidence that they will be contending for a WS while Ohtani is still playing either. We will see what kind of "competitor" he truly is this offseason. The money/endorsements will be good wherever he goes.

I'd like to think there's more Michael Jordan in him than Karl Malone. He has a real chance to cement his name and legacy in MLB history and this FA decision will be the driving force of that.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:21 pm    Post subject:

Braves declined Eddie Rosario's $9MM option, so he's a free agent now. I'd guess that we would have more interest in retaining Heyward, especially as he's probably going to come cheaper, but figured I'd mention it nonetheless.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:33 pm    Post subject:

Yep, I remember when the Brewers were JT's competitors in free agency once upon a time.

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Of relevance, Craig Counsell and the Brewers made a strong push to sign Turner after the '20 season.

The Cubs are looking for offense, especially with Bellinger and Candelario now free agents.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:18 pm    Post subject:

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Ohtani will be remembered or forgotten by which team he is signing for during this off season. Are championships important to him or will he be comfortable with those fat paychecks like his fellow teammate Mike Trout playing in a low pressure environment.


exactly, Ohtani does not strike me as someone who's hungry for a World Series championship. for World Baseball Classic, maybe, but not sold on his dedication with MLB yet.


Gonna need some elaboration here. Guy carried the team and didn't shut down until it was clear they weren't making the playoffs. Everything else is just armchair psychology.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:25 pm    Post subject:

Yeah I don’t understand that one. Ohtani strikes me as very devoted to winning.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 7:37 pm    Post subject:

jonnybravo wrote:
SGV-Laker fan wrote:
lakersken80 wrote:
Ohtani will be remembered or forgotten by which team he is signing for during this off season. Are championships important to him or will he be comfortable with those fat paychecks like his fellow teammate Mike Trout playing in a low pressure environment.


exactly, Ohtani does not strike me as someone who's hungry for a World Series championship. for World Baseball Classic, maybe, but not sold on his dedication with MLB yet.


Gonna need some elaboration here. Guy carried the team and didn't shut down until it was clear they weren't making the playoffs. Everything else is just armchair psychology.



My guess/interpretation:

I think they're referring to his decision to join the Angels instead of the Dodgers and now they're waiting to see what team he chooses to sign with.

For instance, if he chooses to sign with the Giants or Mariners then that's a sign that he's not committed to winning. He's committed to something else. Money? Location?

If he chooses to sign with the Dodgers, then he's committed to winning...

But if he signs with Texas, then he's just committed to eating BBQ.
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