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Can the Lakers reach the Top 6 and avoid the Play-In Tournament?
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No, but finish #7/#8 (top of the bracket).
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No, they'll finish at #9 where they sit today.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 9:59 pm    Post subject:

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If we have to face Curry and the Warriors in a 1 set elimination game I rather be the 9th seed and have HCA instead of being the 10th and having to play 2 road games to get in


Lakers 7-8 spot will depend if they can beat the kings the next 2 games against them
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:07 pm    Post subject:

leking006 wrote:
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If we have to face Curry and the Warriors in a 1 set elimination game I rather be the 9th seed and have HCA instead of being the 10th and having to play 2 road games to get in


Lakers 7-8 spot will depend if they can beat the kings the next 2 games against them


Not with how team this seems to lack consistency to go on a winning streak, we need to take this approach 1 game at a time we aren’t good enough to look ahead
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:28 pm    Post subject:

Honestly they're better off trying to draw Minny or OKC and staying out of Denver's bracket.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 28, 2024 10:42 pm    Post subject:

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Honestly they're better off trying to draw Minny or OKC and staying out of Denver's bracket.


Yes, yes, and yes. I keep looking at the standing and the odds, and with Minnesota and OKC overwhelmingly likely to finish #1 and #2, I do not mind the Lakers finishing at #7 at all. Two chances to make the playoffs at home. Avoid the Nuggets until the second round at the earliest.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:51 am    Post subject:

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Honestly they're better off trying to draw Minny or OKC and staying out of Denver's bracket.

Yes although easier said than done. If Denver stays at #3, it's pretty risky to throw the 7-8 game to try to be the 8th seed. My ideal would be Denver falls to #4 and the Lakers rise to #7
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:42 am    Post subject:

32-28 (7-3 L10) vs 33-25 (4-6 L10)
22 games left
Catch these Queens!!! Take that 8th spot
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:14 am    Post subject:

They are playing good at the right time of the season, if they keep that up and win 12-14 the rest of the way they can move up in the standings.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 2:49 pm    Post subject:

I don't know the statistical chance but seems out of the question for 6 seed.

Even if the Lakers win ALL 22 remaining games that puts them at 54 wins maximum. A more realistic max is 70% W/L or 47 wins total for season.

NO CHANCE 1-3:
Twolves outpaces 54 wins with only 11 of 23 finish 47% W/L (well below current)
Thunder outpaces 54 wins with only 12 of 24 finish 50% W/L (well below current)
Nuggets outpaces 54 wins with only 15 of 23 finish 56% W/L (well below current)

ASSUMING 70% ~ 47 wins total 4-6:
Clippers outpaces 47 wins with only 11 of 25 44% W/L (currently winning at 64%)
Suns outpaces 47 wins with 14 of 24 58.3% W/L (currently winning at 58.6%)
Pelicans outpaces 47 wins with 13 of 22 59% W/L (currently winning at 58.6%)

So, realistically, unless the Lakers actually win more than 15 of the next 22 or 70%+ W/L (and they have only been winning only at 53.3%), the numbers would indicate best they can do would be #7 and the play-in.

Could still be as bad as out of playoffs too so there's that......
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 3:49 pm    Post subject:

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I don't know the statistical chance but seems out of the question for 6 seed.

Even if the Lakers win ALL 22 remaining games that puts them at 54 wins maximum. A more realistic max is 70% W/L or 47 wins total for season.

NO CHANCE 1-3:
Twolves outpaces 54 wins with only 11 of 23 finish 47% W/L (well below current)
Thunder outpaces 54 wins with only 12 of 24 finish 50% W/L (well below current)
Nuggets outpaces 54 wins with only 15 of 23 finish 56% W/L (well below current)

ASSUMING 70% ~ 47 wins total 4-6:
Clippers outpaces 47 wins with only 11 of 25 44% W/L (currently winning at 64%)
Suns outpaces 47 wins with 14 of 24 58.3% W/L (currently winning at 58.6%)
Pelicans outpaces 47 wins with 13 of 22 59% W/L (currently winning at 58.6%)

So, realistically, unless the Lakers actually win more than 15 of the next 22 or 70%+ W/L (and they have only been winning only at 53.3%), the numbers would indicate best they can do would be #7 and the play-in.

Could still be as bad as out of playoffs too so there's that......


You are also assuming the Kings, Mavs, and Warriors are not matching the Lakers win % to stay in front of them. Or in the Warriors case, pass them.

Lakers are not earning a 6th seed. HCA advantage for one or both play-in games would be nice. But they need to show they can be consistent and go on a 7 of 10 pace?

I’m not entirely confident they will beat the Wiz tonight. Inconsistency and poor efforts after a big wins are their trademarks more then win streaks.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Can the Lakers reach the Top 6 and avoid the Play-In Tournament?

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Can the Lakers reach the Top 6 and avoid the Play-In Tournament?

Let’s take a look at the standings:
— #5 Suns and #6 Pelicans (31-22 / .585) on pace for 48 wins.
— #7 Kings (30-22 / .577) on pace for 47 wins.
— #8 Mavericks (30-23 / .566) on pace for 46 wins.
— #9 Lakers (28-26 / .519) on pace for 43 wins.

Lakers have 28 games left. For the Lakers to match the Suns/Pelicans, they need to finish the season 20-8. If the Lakers want to be in the top of the Play-In Tournament bracket, they need to finish 19-9. This is assuming the teams ahead of them keep their current winning pace (and nobody would be surprised if any of them finished strong, making it nearly impossible for the Lakers to catch them).

Can the Lakers do it?

Let’s take a look at their schedule:
2/13 vs Pistons - W
2/14 @ Jazz - W
2/22 @ Warriors - L
2/23 vs Spurs
2/25 @ Suns
2/28 @ Clippers
2/29 vs Wizards
3/2 vs Nuggets
3/4 vs Thunder
3/6 vs Kings
3/8 vs Bucks
3/10 vs Wolves
3/13 @ Kings
3/16 vs Warriors
3/18 vs Hawks
3/22 vs Sixers
3/24 vs Pacers
3/26 @ Bucks
3/27 @ Grizzlies
3/29 @ Pacers
3/31 @ Nets
4/2 @ Raptors
4/3 @ Wizards
4/6 vs Cavaliers
4/7 vs Wolves
4/9 vs Warriors
4/12 @ Grizzlies
4/14 @ Pelicans

Additional Info:
— 15 Home / 13 Away
— 6 Back-to-Backs
— A 4-game road trip, 6-game road trip, and 2-game road trip
— Lakers play 12 games against Top 6 seeds and 8 games against Play-In or fringe Play-In teams (ostensibly 20 games against playoff teams).

RECORD TRACKER
Final Stretch: 2-1 | Overall: 30-27 (#9)


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Below I have divided the games into three categories: easy, medium, and hard.

EASY (6 total; 3 Home/3 Away): 2/13 vs Pistons - W, 2/23 vs Spurs, 2/29 vs Wizards, 3/27 @ Grizzlies, 4/3 @ Wizards, 4/12 @ Grizzlies

EASY RECORD TRACKER: 1-0

The Lakers have 6 EASY games with 3 Home and 3 Away. They should be able go 6-0 in these games and must approach these games with the mentality that they’re going to sweep.

One interesting thing of note in the EASY set of games: 4 of these 6 games are on the 2nd night of Back-to-Backs. That factor certainly impacts the degree of difficulty in these games, despite the fact that these teams are awful and should be "easy" to dispatch.

MEDIUM (13 total; 6 Home/7 Away): 2/14 @ Jazz - W, 2/22 @ Warriors, 3/6 vs Kings, 3/13 @ Kings, 3/16 vs Warriors, 3/18 vs Hawks, 3/22 vs Sixers, 3/24 vs Pacers, 3/29 @ Pacers, 3/31 @ Nets, 4/2 @ Raptors, 4/9 vs Warriors, 4/14 @ Pelicans

MEDIUM RECORD TRACKER: 1-1

The Lakers have 13 games against average to above-average teams with 6 Home and 7 Away (and only 1 game on the 2nd night of a Back-to-Back - 2/14 @ Jazz). They need to go 5-1 at home and at least 4-3 away (considering their putrid 10-17 road record so far this year, 4-3 would be a big win), so that they ultimately finish 9-4 against this slate of teams. It is especially crucial that they defeat the Pelicans and Kings, since they are #6 and #7 in the standings (those victories ostensibly serve as double wins in the Games Back column).

HARD (9 total; 6 Home/3 Away): 2/25 @ Suns, 2/28 @ Clippers, 3/2 vs Nuggets, 3/4 vs Thunder, 3/8 vs Bucks, 3/10 vs Wolves, 3/26 @ Bucks, 4/6 vs Cavaliers, 4/7 vs Wolves

The Lakers have 9 games against the best teams in the NBA with 6 Home and 3 Away (and only 1 game on the 2nd night of a Back-to-Back - 4/7 vs Wolves). The heavy home schedule against HARD teams is fortunate. The Lakers need to aim for a 5-4 record in this difficult set of games.

RECAP: If the Lakers go 6-0 against EASY, 9-4 against MEDIUM, and 5-4 against HARD (20-8 total), then they would finish the season with a 48-34 record.

As daunting as finishing 20-8 may seem, I think the schedule breaks out quite nicely to give the Lakers the opportunity to make a big run.



2/25 @ Suns - L
2/28 @ Clippers - L
2/29 vs Wizards - W
3/2 vs Nuggets - L
3/4 vs Thunder - W (Lakers got their numbers and will play in HC)
3/6 vs Kings - W (Can beat them in HC)
3/8 vs Bucks - L
3/10 vs Wolves - W (Will not lose 2 straight at HC)
3/13 @ Kings - L
3/16 vs Warriors - W
3/18 vs Hawks - W
3/22 vs Sixers - W
3/24 vs Pacers - W
3/26 @ Bucks - L
3/27 @ Grizzlies - W
3/29 @ Pacers - W
3/31 @ Nets - W
4/2 @ Raptors - W
4/3 @ Wizards - W
4/6 vs Cavaliers - L
4/7 vs Wolves - W (Will not lose 2 straight at HC)
4/9 vs Warriors - W
4/12 @ Grizzlies - W
4/14 @ Pelicans - W

17-7 in last 24 games

finish 48-34

is this good enough for 6tth spot?

Note: If they will beat the Suns and Flippers the next 2 games, that will be a huge headstart for this schedule. Besides they've already beaten them this season, so it's not impossible. A split would be nice too.


0-1

The irony is Lakers can easily beat the Pelicans and Thunder and yet they are in the top 5 and Lakers barely hanging at play-in spot.


1-1 bonus win against the flippers

6 home games next


2-1 Expecting an L vs the Nuggets
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:15 pm    Post subject:

https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:16 pm    Post subject:

Wasn’t pretty, but the Lakers get the W over the Wizards. Taking care of business against the teams that I deemed “easy” (3-0 so far; 3 more games against “easy” to go).

Lakers start this stretch 5-2. To reach 20-8 (48-34 overall), they need to go 15-6 the rest of the way. Will be tough, but the team is trending in the right direction.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:18 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


Don't look that bad. Ankle didn't really fully twist.
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mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


I hope he plays we need to beat them at full strength and send a message Lakers caught a break in these back to back wins and we need to prove this team can rise up to the challenge
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:53 pm    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


I hope he plays we need to beat them at full strength and send a message Lakers caught a break in these back to back wins and we need to prove this team can rise up to the challenge

No we don’t, we just need a win.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:00 pm    Post subject:

miggz23 wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


Don't look that bad. Ankle didn't really fully twist.

I don’t think they’d risk it, so I think he will sit out
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:09 pm    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


I hope he plays we need to beat them at full strength and send a message Lakers caught a break in these back to back wins and we need to prove this team can rise up to the challenge

No we don’t, we just need a win.


A team with AD and LeBron sitting at the 9th spot of the play in need more then a win they need to show everyone they are for real
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 6:40 am    Post subject:

Inspector Gadget wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
Inspector Gadget wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


I hope he plays we need to beat them at full strength and send a message Lakers caught a break in these back to back wins and we need to prove this team can rise up to the challenge

No we don’t, we just need a win.


A team with AD and LeBron sitting at the 9th spot of the play in need more then a win they need to show everyone they are for real


Unfortunately the Lakers culture currently does not support messages or “showing” anything. As struggling to beat the Wiz proved.

They are in 9th for a reason. Too much inconsistency and lack of intensity. There is a reason they go down by double digits constantly. Sometimes they recover, many times they don’t. Just who they are.

I will take the win. The comeback on the clips was epic. But this team is in its current position for a reason.

For fun, I recommend going back to the beginning of the Wiz game and watch the sequences on both ends that led to the Lakers falling behind in the first few mins. No interest in playing defense and settling for bad shots instead of running an offense. This is not a team that “shows” anything except it is primed to be an early exit from the playoffs this year.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 7:01 am    Post subject:

Barely beat the worst team in the league. Not a good sign.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:16 am    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?

he tried to play in 2nd half but coaches said no. They should sit him and all of the starters. They dont need to win this game.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:27 am    Post subject:

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Wasn’t pretty, but the Lakers get the W over the Wizards. Taking care of business against the teams that I deemed “easy” (3-0 so far; 3 more games against “easy” to go).

Lakers start this stretch 5-2. To reach 20-8 (48-34 overall), they need to go 15-6 the rest of the way. Will be tough, but the team is trending in the right direction.


If we expect Lebron and AD to play 40 minutes to beat a 9 win team at home the post season will be short. It wasn’t easy and those two need a lot more help.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:05 am    Post subject:

mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?


I’d say 99% chance he sits out. They have no reason to take chances on it.

That being said, the Lakers have been right with the Nuggets in every game even though they’ve lost all of them. A bunch of times, Murray has been the difference down the stretch so I’d say the Lakers should be easily favored tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:19 am    Post subject:

We can beat anyone. We can lose to anyone.

Poor coaching will always have you playing down to our competition.

I think LeBron motivates our team
When it counts - playoffs.

Think the TWolvws and Thunder don’t want any part of us.



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:47 am    Post subject:

Halflife wrote:
mad55557777 wrote:
https://x.com/fastbreakphenom/status/1763415497377214923?s=46&t=VJNAyA603EB9oePT0uUvuw

Does he look like he can play this Saturday?

he tried to play in 2nd half but coaches said no. They should sit him and all of the starters. They dont need to win this game.


Often, it's a lot worse after it tightens up. Also, some guys will hurt themselves by playing when the shouldn't.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:29 am    Post subject:

Lakers will finish top 6
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