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lakeshowtacular
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| Bron2AD wrote: | | we beat them because they were young and inexperienced. thats it |
This is it, Jokic has gotten better, Murray is one of the best PGs in the league now, and our best perimeter defender from that team plays for them now. Add in our lack of size, which was a strength in 2020 and it's pretty clear.
Lakers will only win an NBA title this year if someone else beats the Nuggets for us...Let's Go Clippers/Suns/Wolves!!!
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| lakeshowtacular wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | we beat them because they were young and inexperienced. thats it |
This is it, Jokic has gotten better, Murray is one of the best PGs in the league now, and our best perimeter defender from that team plays for them now. Add in our lack of size, which was a strength in 2020 and it's pretty clear.
Lakers will only win an NBA title this year if someone else beats the Nuggets for us...Let's Go Clippers/Suns/Wolves!!! |
We shipped out a platoon of elite defensive perimeter players. LeBron and AD have taken a step back. Jokic and Murray have taken a step forward. We aren’t a contender anymore and the sooner we understand that the sooner we can get back to contending.
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| Itsowheeze wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | How did we gentleman’s sweep them in the 2020 bubble? |
That was 4 years ago, why does everyone here live in the past? |
We beat them due to better coaching. More physicality in the front court. AD was playing at the 4 and Dwight at the 5. We were able to single cover Jokic so Denver didnt have the same offensive advantage. |
Dwight played less than 19 mpg.
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lakeshowtacular
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| ocho wrote: | | lakeshowtacular wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | we beat them because they were young and inexperienced. thats it |
This is it, Jokic has gotten better, Murray is one of the best PGs in the league now, and our best perimeter defender from that team plays for them now. Add in our lack of size, which was a strength in 2020 and it's pretty clear.
Lakers will only win an NBA title this year if someone else beats the Nuggets for us...Let's Go Clippers/Suns/Wolves!!! |
We shipped out a platoon of elite defensive perimeter players. LeBron and AD have taken a step back. Jokic and Murray have taken a step forward. We aren’t a contender anymore and the sooner we understand that the sooner we can get back to contending. |
I guess this is the part I'm having a hard time with!! I still want to believe, but every time we play the Nuggets, it's obvious!
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lakersfever714
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Murray was injured in 2020. Our path to a championship depends on a key injury to the Nuggets or some other team taking them out. So the championship chance is still there. We have a good team but Nuggets are just a great team.
We could even beat Foston with just our roleplayers. But we just can't beat this Nuggets team if our lives were depended on it! So yea, we could beat "any" team EXCEPT the reigning champs.
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| lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
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| lakeshowtacular wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | lakeshowtacular wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | we beat them because they were young and inexperienced. thats it |
This is it, Jokic has gotten better, Murray is one of the best PGs in the league now, and our best perimeter defender from that team plays for them now. Add in our lack of size, which was a strength in 2020 and it's pretty clear.
Lakers will only win an NBA title this year if someone else beats the Nuggets for us...Let's Go Clippers/Suns/Wolves!!! |
We shipped out a platoon of elite defensive perimeter players. LeBron and AD have taken a step back. Jokic and Murray have taken a step forward. We aren’t a contender anymore and the sooner we understand that the sooner we can get back to contending. |
I guess this is the part I'm having a hard time with!! I still want to believe, but every time we play the Nuggets, it's obvious! |
It’s most obvious against Denver but it’s not just them. We are the 10th best team in the West with our best players being healthy all year. It’s over.
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For someone who isn't an all-star, Murray smokes some of the players people who made it. Same thing with Jimmy Butler.
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| ocho wrote: | | lakeshowtacular wrote: | | ocho wrote: | | lakeshowtacular wrote: | | Bron2AD wrote: | | we beat them because they were young and inexperienced. thats it |
This is it, Jokic has gotten better, Murray is one of the best PGs in the league now, and our best perimeter defender from that team plays for them now. Add in our lack of size, which was a strength in 2020 and it's pretty clear.
Lakers will only win an NBA title this year if someone else beats the Nuggets for us...Let's Go Clippers/Suns/Wolves!!! |
wWe shipped out a platoon of elite defensive perimeter players. LeBron and AD have taken a step back. Jokic and Murray have taken a step forward. We aren’t a contender anymore and the sooner we understand that the sooner we can get back to contending. |
I guess this is the part I'm having a hard time with!! I still want to believe, but every time we play the Nuggets, it's obvious! |
It’s most obvious against Denver but it’s not just them. We are the 10th best team in the West with our best players being healthy all year. It’s over |
Lakers were winning for 3.5 quarters without our best defenders (Vanderbilt and Cam - who just returned) and a missing big (CWood).
Ham with Reddish (whom represented less offense but more hight and defense. Cam didn’t provide enough offense to justify the defense he brought (noting that AG didn’t miss any shots. Hopefully rotating AD/CWood/Vanderbilt/Reddish onto the 6’10” Michael Porter will make him work harder for his shots.
Most telling sign of the shortened bench is the inability to match the Nuggets’ raised energy level in the fourth quarter. Rui was playing well, Michael Porter was playing better.
In games like this, playing Christie more minutes than Prince probably would have been a better substitution. With Prince, one knows that either the team would lose a lead or the deficit would increase. With Christie, at least a real possibility that he would bring positives while he is learning how to play in pressure-filled games and elimippp pp nate needless mistakes plus he brings energy and effort far greater than Prince
Joker is the NBA’s best players and his behind the shoulder long 3pt shots at the end of the shot clock is unstoppable - by anybody
The Cam, AR, Rui, LBJ and AD could not match/adjust to the Nuggets’ fourth quarter play.
Maybe Ham will have the opportunity to rotate AD,!Vanderbilt and Cam on Gordon, since they have the same length to make him work harder and limit his impact
The team’s effort will beat most teams |
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| Nobody wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
Yea, our whole fan base is delusional right now. We are the 10th seed because we are not that good. We are not beating any of the top 4 or 5 teams in a 7 game series.
I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "start the rebuild" and roll up to Crypto. |
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NEXT GAME:
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Crypto.com Arena, Los Angeles, CA • Monday, Mar. 04, 2024 • 7:30 PM
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A Mad Chinaman
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| defense wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
Yea, our whole fan base is delusional right now. We are the 10th seed because we are not that good. We are not beating any of the top 4 or 5 teams in a 7 game series.
I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "start the rebuild" and roll up to Crypto. |
Question is not that we will make the playoffs (that's assured), the question is whether our team will be able to get to the 5th/6th (ideally) or at least 7th, but not 9th or 10th.
Lakers, Suns, Mavs and Warriors are looking to pass the Kings (5th) and Pelicans (6th) on their respective pursuit of better playoff positioning.
We are 10th because we are not consistent. We have beaten the best teams (except the Nuggets) and lost to the worst teams - that sounds like a young and inexperienced team - lol. In the mid-season tournament, Lakers were consistent - yet right after the mid-season and ASG, the team came out flat
Having consistent effort seems to be this team's major flaw.
Missing Vanderbilt has resulted in lacking an excellent D First Player that would take the pressure off LBJ (along with AR and Dlo) to defend the opposing team's top offensive threat along with not having play "heavy" minutes.
Nuggets have losing (or tied) records with Cavs (0-1), Rockets (1-3), TWolves (0-1), Knicks (0-1), OKC (1-3), Knicks (0-1), Magic (0-2), 76ers (1-1), Kings (1-3) and Jazz (1-1). Nuggets have winning records against teams that have a legitimate chance of winning a NBA Ring.
Note: they have only played the TWolves one time. |
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| A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
Yea, our whole fan base is delusional right now. We are the 10th seed because we are not that good. We are not beating any of the top 4 or 5 teams in a 7 game series.
I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "start the rebuild" and roll up to Crypto. |
Question is not that we will make the playoffs (that's assured), the question is whether our team will be able to get to the 5th/6th (ideally) or at least 7th, but not 9th or 10th.
Lakers, Suns, Mavs and Warriors are looking to pass the Kings (5th) and Pelicans (6th) on their respective pursuit of better playoff positioning.
We are 10th because we are not consistent. We have beaten the best teams (except the Nuggets) and lost to the worst teams - that sounds like a young and inexperienced team - lol. In the mid-season tournament, Lakers were consistent - yet right after the mid-season and ASG, the team came out flat
Having consistent effort seems to be this team's major flaw.
Missing Vanderbilt has resulted in lacking an excellent D First Player that would take the pressure off LBJ (along with AR and Dlo) to defend the opposing team's top offensive threat along with not having play "heavy" minutes.
Nuggets have losing (or tied) records with Cavs (0-1), Rockets (1-3), TWolves (0-1), Knicks (0-1), OKC (1-3), Knicks (0-1), Magic (0-2), 76ers (1-1), Kings (1-3) and Jazz (1-1). Nuggets have winning records against teams that have a legitimate chance of winning a NBA Ring.
Note: they have only played the TWolves one time. |
If we stay 9/10 we have to win twice, right? Are you really that sure that making the playoffs is a given? |
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mad55557777
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Itsowheeze wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | How did we gentleman’s sweep them in the 2020 bubble? |
That was 4 years ago, why does everyone here live in the past? |
We beat them due to better coaching. More physicality in the front court. AD was playing at the 4 and Dwight at the 5. We were able to single cover Jokic so Denver didnt have the same offensive advantage. |
Dwight played less than 19 mpg. |
No we beat them because Jokic was a much lesser player and lebron was healthy and dominant |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Itsowheeze wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | How did we gentleman’s sweep them in the 2020 bubble? |
That was 4 years ago, why does everyone here live in the past? |
We beat them due to better coaching. More physicality in the front court. AD was playing at the 4 and Dwight at the 5. We were able to single cover Jokic so Denver didnt have the same offensive advantage. |
Dwight played less than 19 mpg. |
That 19mpg was enough to swing the series at least... That's 19mpg AD can roam around defensively...
We lost the game the last 3 minutes last game. So that 19mpg would play a factor. |
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| Jokic is definitely better now but Dwight was so strong Jokic could not bully him to the rim and Jokic would get frustrated with the physicality. In no way would Dwight stop him but preventing easy layups and taking Jokic off his game 10% could decide a game. |
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| venturalakersfan wrote: | | Itsowheeze wrote: | | venturalakersfan wrote: | | CandyCanes wrote: | | How did we gentleman’s sweep them in the 2020 bubble? |
That was 4 years ago, why does everyone here live in the past? |
We beat them due to better coaching. More physicality in the front court. AD was playing at the 4 and Dwight at the 5. We were able to single cover Jokic so Denver didnt have the same offensive advantage. |
Dwight played less than 19 mpg. |
Javel Mcgee then.
The point is Lakers werent getting killed on the boards |
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| A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
Yea, our whole fan base is delusional right now. We are the 10th seed because we are not that good. We are not beating any of the top 4 or 5 teams in a 7 game series.
I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "start the rebuild" and roll up to Crypto. |
Question is not that we will make the playoffs (that's assured), the question is whether our team will be able to get to the 5th/6th (ideally) or at least 7th, but not 9th or 10th.
Lakers, Suns, Mavs and Warriors are looking to pass the Kings (5th) and Pelicans (6th) on their respective pursuit of better playoff positioning.
We are 10th because we are not consistent. We have beaten the best teams (except the Nuggets) and lost to the worst teams - that sounds like a young and inexperienced team - lol. In the mid-season tournament, Lakers were consistent - yet right after the mid-season and ASG, the team came out flat
Having consistent effort seems to be this team's major flaw.
Missing Vanderbilt has resulted in lacking an excellent D First Player that would take the pressure off LBJ (along with AR and Dlo) to defend the opposing team's top offensive threat along with not having play "heavy" minutes.
Nuggets have losing (or tied) records with Cavs (0-1), Rockets (1-3), TWolves (0-1), Knicks (0-1), OKC (1-3), Knicks (0-1), Magic (0-2), 76ers (1-1), Kings (1-3) and Jazz (1-1). Nuggets have winning records against teams that have a legitimate chance of winning a NBA Ring.
Note: they have only played the TWolves one time. |
Those teams have one thing in common that the lakers dont have. Adequate coaching!!!! |
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A Mad Chinaman
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| Nobody wrote: | | A Mad Chinaman wrote: | | defense wrote: | | Nobody wrote: | | lakersfever714 wrote: | | Denver will get eliminated by some team from the West. We could handle "any" team other than Denver. Let's just not face Denver in the first round and we'll be fine. |
Let's try making the playoffs first. |
Yea, our whole fan base is delusional right now. We are the 10th seed because we are not that good. We are not beating any of the top 4 or 5 teams in a 7 game series.
I'm going to get a T-shirt that says "start the rebuild" and roll up to Crypto. |
Question is not that we will make the playoffs (that's assured), the question is whether our team will be able to get to the 5th/6th (ideally) or at least 7th, but not 9th or 10th.
Lakers, Suns, Mavs and Warriors are looking to pass the Kings (5th) and Pelicans (6th) on their respective pursuit of better playoff positioning.
We are 10th because we are not consistent. We have beaten the best teams (except the Nuggets) and lost to the worst teams - that sounds like a young and inexperienced team - lol. In the mid-season tournament, Lakers were consistent - yet right after the mid-season and ASG, the team came out flat
Having consistent effort seems to be this team's major flaw.
Missing Vanderbilt has resulted in lacking an excellent D First Player that would take the pressure off LBJ (along with AR and Dlo) to defend the opposing team's top offensive threat along with not having play "heavy" minutes.
Nuggets have losing (or tied) records with Cavs (0-1), Rockets (1-3), TWolves (0-1), Knicks (0-1), OKC (1-3), Knicks (0-1), Magic (0-2), 76ers (1-1), Kings (1-3) and Jazz (1-1). Nuggets have winning records against teams that have a legitimate chance of winning a NBA Ring.
Note: they have only played the TWolves one time. |
If we stay 9/10 we have to win twice, right? Are you really that sure that making the playoffs is a given? |
Yes. Utah Jazz is not catching Lakers or Dubs
With Hayes, Rui, Spencer and DLo playing more effectively - consistently, they are able to give "Load Management" to AD & LBR during some games
If Ham can play their Triple Threat (No Defense, No Offense, No Rebounds) Prince to against the opposing team's bench players - will have a better chance to get wins.
Lakers have tough key games at home that will tell where they will be during the playoffs. With the Kings/Pels in front of them are young and inexperienced, Mavs have lost a few games, etc. there is a path to 6th. |
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