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Kblo247!
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| BigBallerBrand wrote: | | AR is as good as rick fox or maybe devean george, don't expect anything more than that. might be sasha level on a good day |
Fox was a 17 point per game guy who started, gave up all his scoring and money to win. He would come off the bench to help the team behind rice. Then he would shift to being the starter and hounding guys like Peja all over the court and hitting huge shots and playing well in must win games.
Fox would take Reaves lunch money if you put Fox on Reaves |
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ducasse
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| Kblo247! wrote: | | BigBallerBrand wrote: | | AR is as good as rick fox or maybe devean george, don't expect anything more than that. might be sasha level on a good day |
Fox was a 17 point per game guy who started, gave up all his scoring and money to win. He would come off the bench to help the team behind rice. Then he would shift to being the starter and hounding guys like Peja all over the court and hitting huge shots and playing well in must win games.
Fox would take Reaves lunch money if you put Fox on Reaves |
I remember Fox being a very decent scorer for the Celtics and a tough defender for the Lakers. Celtics era Fox and AR are pretty comparable on offense. AR is better than the Devean George I remember watching. He's a lot more skilled than Devean was. AR is a lot better than Sasha was too. Sasha not even close to comparable.
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miggz23
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 12:13 am Post subject: |
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| Not good time for him and Rui to regress. Both guys just needed to give us 1 point each and they most likely win the game. |
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This dude is just always lost on defense. Not sure why he’s always 3-5 ft away from shooters especially when they’re 1 pass away from the ball
Personally I feel way more comfortable having gabe out there than AR
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More excuses. Nope. AR is a nice little player. He'll hit a few 3 pointers during the regular season and everyone will cheer and feel good for the moment, but we can't use nice little players in the post season. We need IMPACT players, and AR is not an impact players.
It's simple. AR has to go this offseason. Package his ass and Rui and one of our always-hurt MFs and get Dejonte or Trae from the Hawks, and don't hesitate. You see, Jeannie and Rob hesitate too damn much. GET A 3RD ALL STAR ON THIS TEAM! |
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| Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
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lakers4life78
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:59 am Post subject: |
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SHip him out in the offseason. He'll never be more than this. High floor, low ceiling. Nice player but nothing special.
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LakersRGolden
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:53 am Post subject: |
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| LakersPimp wrote: | | Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
Reeves is a 4-out player (dribble/shoot/pass). We're a 5-out team (shoot/pass/dribble).
He's a closer and is almost an average defender.
He's cheap and might fit well with what we're become in a year or 2. |
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CamReddish
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:00 am Post subject: |
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Perfect 6th man
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:10 am Post subject: |
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| LakersPimp wrote: | | Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
^^This.^^
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| CamReddish wrote: | | Perfect 6th man |
Agreed. Need a KCP/Caruso/Danny Green next to DLO.
Altough Reaves deserves his flowers for his defense so far.
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sonic the laker
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| troy wrote: | More excuses. Nope. AR is a nice little player. He'll hit a few 3 pointers during the regular season and everyone will cheer and feel good for the moment, but we can't use nice little players in the post season. We need IMPACT players, and AR is not an impact players.
It's simple. AR has to go this offseason. Package his ass and Rui and one of our always-hurt MFs and get Dejonte or Trae from the Hawks, and don't hesitate. You see, Jeannie and Rob hesitate too damn much. GET A 3RD ALL STAR ON THIS TEAM! |
These statements are an absolute exercise in hyperbole. Reaves is more than just a "nice little player" who hits a few three's, so we can cheer and feel good. That's just disrespectful. Especially seeing as how he's giving his all to guard Murray...and doing a damn fine job.
Reaves, and DLo, both work best with the ball in their hands. Even during the season, when games got tight, the team would stop giving the ball to AR/DLo, and it would stick more in LeBron's hands. For better, or for worse.
Same thing is happening in this series, against Denver. And, you're seeing the worse. 
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| LakersPimp wrote: | | Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
Dlo is struggling with Denver’s length. He’s not able to excel playing point this series. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Brawn13 wrote: | | LakersPimp wrote: | | Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
Dlo is struggling with Denver’s length. He’s not able to excel playing point this series. |
The Lakers need to rebuild their backcourt. |
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Itsowheeze
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| Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| LakersPimp wrote: | | Reeves is fine...He plays better with the ball...DLo and reeves move the ball...Lebron..the ball just stays with him...when the synergy is off you can see everyone else just waits... |
Facts. You need other players to get in a rhythm. If they have the ball in their hands and they're making plays they're much more comfortable instead of just standing around. |
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ThePageDude
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Hey, if the point is that it would be great if the Lakers got a player better than Reaves as their #3, who can argue with that?
That completely ignores 3 things:
1) Given the cap/budget constraints Reaves is a heckuva deal for his contract and for what the Lakers are willing to pay.
2) BIG ONE: There are FAR bigger problems with this team than Reaves. Rui is killing himself defending Jokic and giving little on offense. The team is being out-rebounded by Denver. The team is being out-hustled and out-quicked by Denver towards the end of games. Bench guards are not integrated into the offense - watch how many times/game they try to pressure the rim - which is what Dinwiddie is known for. I could go on and on.
3) Every championship team needs role players like Reaves, Caruso, Gordon, Bruce Brown, Green .... The fact that our bench is crapping right now while Chris Braun performs for Denver proves this. Sure, bring in a better starter to round out the team but not at the expense of glue guys like KCP/Caruso/Reaves. |
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troy
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| sonic the laker wrote: | | troy wrote: | More excuses. Nope. AR is a nice little player. He'll hit a few 3 pointers during the regular season and everyone will cheer and feel good for the moment, but we can't use nice little players in the post season. We need IMPACT players, and AR is not an impact players.
It's simple. AR has to go this offseason. Package his ass and Rui and one of our always-hurt MFs and get Dejonte or Trae from the Hawks, and don't hesitate. You see, Jeannie and Rob hesitate too damn much. GET A 3RD ALL STAR ON THIS TEAM! |
These statements are an absolute exercise in hyperbole. Reaves is more than just a "nice little player" who hits a few three's, so we can cheer and feel good. That's just disrespectful. Especially seeing as how he's giving his all to guard Murray...and doing a damn fine job.
Reaves, and DLo, both work best with the ball in their hands. Even during the season, when games got tight, the team would stop giving the ball to AR/DLo, and it would stick more in LeBron's hands. For better, or for worse.
Same thing is happening in this series, against Denver. And, you're seeing the worse. |
Are you suggesting you'd go with Reaves over Lebron down the stretch? My point about AR is that he has not improved his game enough to where the Lakers can integrate it into their gameplan. As I said, AR doesn't IMPACT the game. We don't need him to score a bunch of points, or do anything a star player would. We just need him to do enough, when it is time for him to do enough. He has failed to fulfill this role. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:13 am Post subject: |
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| Overrated. Sucks at defense. After the refs stopped giving him the superstar calls, his scoring came down |
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RusselDoeee01
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| roger_federer wrote: | | Overrated. Sucks at defense. After the refs stopped giving him the superstar calls, his scoring came down |
you are going to cry when laker deal him out like most LG when a laker move to other team and do better. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 11:57 am Post subject: |
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| roger_federer wrote: | | Overrated. Sucks at defense. After the refs stopped giving him the superstar calls, his scoring came down |
buuut
He's been the primary defender on Murray. Go look at Murray's stats. He also raised every statistical category this season playing 4th wheel and sometimes 6th man.
Go find someone better at 13 million to trade him for. I dare you!
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zambia
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| roger_federer wrote: | | Overrated. Sucks at defense. After the refs stopped giving him the superstar calls, his scoring came down |
Reaves is not a good defender. However DLO is so horrible defensively, Reaves has to guard DLO’s man. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2024 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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Reaves is better when he can control the flow of the game and handle the ball more. He and Lebron usually have good synergy but when you combine with AD who is also a ball stopper, it's probably hard for him to get it rolling.
I still think long term he will be a great contributor, wouldn't write him off just yet. |
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| BandwagonLBJhopper wrote: | Reaves is better when he can control the flow of the game and handle the ball more. He and Lebron usually have good synergy but when you combine with AD who is also a ball stopper, it's probably hard for him to get it rolling.
I still think long term he will be a great contributor, wouldn't write him off just yet. |
Lol at AD being a ball stopper. He is usually always playing within the rhythm of the game and within the offense. Since he is one of the best players in the NBA, the offense is designed for him to get scoring opportunities. He didn't make Reeves miss shots.
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LeBron is a ball stopper and probably the reason we blew the leads last to games. We slowed down and he tried to control the game and clock. Made the team lose rhythm. Looked like the old Cavs teams he was on without his ability to take over.
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| Today I gladly tell you STFU |
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