"Pat Riley must know he is locked inside a prison of his own design. At 62, he appears destined to finish his Hall-of-Fame career in the bowels of a conference that might be ruled by a man he fired......" _________________ "Kobe, Kobe, Kobe and some more Kobe, with a sprinkling of Kobe and a huge fat scoop of double Kobe with Kobe sprinkles and Kobe sauce"
----CL member bumrusherer after Kobe's 52 pt. game vs. Dallas 03/02/08
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:51 am Post subject:
Yeah, felt bad for Stan - Riley sure left a huge knife in his back.
Shaq actually threw the door open when he was whining and moaning about his touches (some things never change) after that Game 7 loss to Detroit. Shaq knew exactly what he was doing. Riley just walked into that door the next season.
Riles may not last this season as coach. Just nothing in it for him, which of course means he'll remove himself from the situation.
Riley has a team built around the mummified remains of Shaquille O'Neal.
Actually, not being able to pick up any free agents this summer really hurt the Heat. Wade is coming off of two surgeries and will need some time. Even with Shaq's less than stellar performance, the heat have a nice center rotation with Shaq, Zo, Blount. That said, they are short the pg they have been looking for and a vet swingman.
Shaq's 20 mil put a squeeze on the Heat obtaining any other talent to keep them afloat. 20 mil sure doesn't get you much anymore...15/8.
Shaq's 20 mil put a squeeze on the Heat obtaining any other talent to keep them afloat. 20 mil sure doesn't get you much anymore...15/8.
This is from Shaq's page on ESPN.com:
O'Neal, who took only seven shots in Friday's loss to Boston, questioned why the offense seems to move away from him for stretches late in games, the Miami Herald reports.
Maybe because hack-a-Shaq works? _________________ Game recognize game, Granddad. - Riley Freeman, The Boondocks
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10761 Location: Bay Area, CA
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject:
Exick wrote:
oldschool32 wrote:
Shaq's 20 mil put a squeeze on the Heat obtaining any other talent to keep them afloat. 20 mil sure doesn't get you much anymore...15/8.
This is from Shaq's page on ESPN.com:
O'Neal, who took only seven shots in Friday's loss to Boston, questioned why the offense seems to move away from him for stretches late in games, the Miami Herald reports.
Maybe because hack-a-Shaq works?
You'd think that'd be obvious to Shaq by now. Nothing new there at all and he should know that. The new thing is that Shaq just doesn't have the stamina to be a go-to player at the end of games anymore. Even in his limited minutes now he's sucking wind at the end of games. What coach wants to give the ball to a guy who can't shoot free throws and is obviously tired when the game's in the balance?
Now, do you think Riley would prefer fielding a team of Wade, Butler and Odom at this point, or his self-proclaimed superheroes, 'Superman' and 'Flash'?
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 3:00 pm Post subject:
Lakers 71-72 wrote:
Now, do you think Riley would prefer fielding a team of Wade, Butler and Odom at this point, or his self-proclaimed superheroes, 'Superman' and 'Flash'?
I'm sure he'd rather have LO/Caron and Wade now...but I'm also sure he wouldn't trade in the Heat championship to have that right now. The Heat sold their long-term prospects down the river to win a championship - their first and only championship. It was probably the right move for them, they just have to accept the consequences now.
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Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject:
oldschool32 wrote:
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Riley has a team built around the mummified remains of Shaquille O'Neal.
Yeah...that's my favorite line! _________________ "Kobe, Kobe, Kobe and some more Kobe, with a sprinkling of Kobe and a huge fat scoop of double Kobe with Kobe sprinkles and Kobe sauce"
----CL member bumrusherer after Kobe's 52 pt. game vs. Dallas 03/02/08
Now, do you think Riley would prefer fielding a team of Wade, Butler and Odom at this point, or his self-proclaimed superheroes, 'Superman' and 'Flash'?
I'm sure he'd rather have LO/Caron and Wade now...but I'm also sure he wouldn't trade in the Heat championship to have that right now. The Heat sold their long-term prospects down the river to win a championship - their first and only championship. It was probably the right move for them, they just have to accept the consequences now.
Yup, Wade is going to be in a situation very similar to Kobe's in a few years.
Joined: 01 Feb 2006 Posts: 10761 Location: Bay Area, CA
Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 6:03 pm Post subject:
Freakout wrote:
Socks wrote:
Lakers 71-72 wrote:
Now, do you think Riley would prefer fielding a team of Wade, Butler and Odom at this point, or his self-proclaimed superheroes, 'Superman' and 'Flash'?
I'm sure he'd rather have LO/Caron and Wade now...but I'm also sure he wouldn't trade in the Heat championship to have that right now. The Heat sold their long-term prospects down the river to win a championship - their first and only championship. It was probably the right move for them, they just have to accept the consequences now.
Yup, Wade is going to be in a situation very similar to Kobe's in a few years.
Except Wade has an opt out in (I think) 3 years. Smart on his point to take a year less on his extension. Miami will be in a mad scramble in the next few years to field a team competitive enough to keep him in Miami.
During Showtime, all the Lakers quit on Riley because he kept pushing them and they got tired of it after all those years. And now Riley's quitting on his team _________________ Double rings > Double rainbow
" No rebound, No rings". He got Shaq to play to play some screen and roll defense, something PJ for most of his time in LA couldn't.
He cares about defense and isn't stubborn. Smush started in LA even though he was being outplayed. Riley changes his starting lineup and plays whoever preforms. _________________
" No rebound, No rings". He got Shaq to play to play some screen and roll defense, something PJ for most of his time in LA couldn't.
He cares about defense and isn't stubborn. Smush started in LA even though he was being outplayed. Riley changes his starting lineup and plays whoever preforms.
Yup. Also I think Wade is a bit overated in regards to being able to carry a team. yes hes a stud but I think Riles overvalued him a bit. Either way Riles style as a coach is one I like. He was the coach of my favorite lakers team ever. He for me is a Laker for life. _________________ The lakers will get prince.
Joined: 31 Oct 2001 Posts: 4844 Location: Suckramento
Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:
hi_ma wrote:
He was the coach of my favorite lakers team ever. He for me is a Laker for life.
I used to think the same until hiscomment about giving all his Lakers championship rings to win the one with Miami. That pissed me off!
Keep your tainted ring and your a** in Miami with your losing team. _________________ "Kobe, Kobe, Kobe and some more Kobe, with a sprinkling of Kobe and a huge fat scoop of double Kobe with Kobe sprinkles and Kobe sauce"
----CL member bumrusherer after Kobe's 52 pt. game vs. Dallas 03/02/08
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