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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:00 am Post subject: |
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guillermo0130 wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
Chet Baker's soulful vocal of "My Funny Valentine" is still my personal favorite. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNaXMoAXYYs _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:01 am Post subject: |
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kaoss128 wrote: | Where would you rank Kobe among the all time greats? |
Good question! _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:03 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
KBCB and I were going round and round on the jazz question in OT. Glad DB asked it, not liking the answer though. I still have a 78 rpm of Chet Baker Sings. |
KAJ is old school and you could tell from the answer that he tried to give Miles his props because Miles was truly one of the 3 or 4 most influential Jazz figures ever. But in the end, he had to give it up to Clifford as a horn player.
Don't feel bad my man Jodeke, ain't taking nothing away from Miles to put him a little behind Clifford, every Jazz trumpet players knows the score. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
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davidse Franchise Player
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 12:48 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
I have a huge Jazz framed photo gallery in my house. This pic is in there.....
http://www.radio-oh.com/jazz_about/trumpet/pic/chetbaker.jpg |
wow ! a beauty.
never seen that one before.
i do have to admit though, that musicaly - i much prefer the older broken down version of chet.
hate to say it - but it took his music to a whole different level (for me anyway...). |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:41 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | guillermo0130 wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
Chet Baker's soulful vocal of "My Funny Valentine" is still my personal favorite. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNaXMoAXYYs |
My Funny Valentine from Chet Baker Sings
Chet was addicted to heroin. I think he fell out of a window while high and killed himself. His renditions weren't in the Miles or Clifford class who were the Charlie Parker and John Coletrane of their instruments. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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davidse Franchise Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 8:45 am Post subject: |
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jodeke wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | guillermo0130 wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
Chet Baker's soulful vocal of "My Funny Valentine" is still my personal favorite. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNaXMoAXYYs |
My Funny Valentine from Chet Baker Sings
Chet was addicted to heroin. I think he fell out of a window while high and killed himself. His renditions weren't in the Miles or Clifford class who were the Charlie Parker and John Coletrane of their instruments. |
if you want to hear the best version of that song, look for the 9 minute version chet performs live - many years later.
it's on a totaly different level. |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:14 am Post subject: |
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davidse wrote: | jodeke wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | guillermo0130 wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
Chet Baker's soulful vocal of "My Funny Valentine" is still my personal favorite. | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNaXMoAXYYs |
My Funny Valentine from Chet Baker Sings
Chet was addicted to heroin. I think he fell out of a window while high and killed himself. His renditions weren't in the Miles or Clifford class who were the Charlie Parker and John Coletrane of their instruments. |
if you want to hear the best version of that song, look for the 9 minute version chet performs live - many years later.
it's on a totaly different level. |
I have it. I download from 360 Share Pro. It's a legal site. I don't download enough to be monitored.
Bye the Bye
It is a different version, shows more versatility. _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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Bballguru5000 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | Right on about Clifford Brown. Cap knows his jazz.
Good question, Just Ming.
My question would be:
How can Andrew Bynum now break through to the next level and cement his presence as one of the top centers in the NBA? What does he have to work on to get there? |
Now come on BBG, you KNOW that was MY question DB put up into KAJ's ear. Ain't nothing a Jazz fan likes talking more than Jazz. |
Oh, I knew the second I read that question that you had asked it. I was just saying the question Just-Ming asked about which books Phil suggests also a good question. The Cliff-Miles question I was 100% sure had come from you. |
Damn skippy. I met KAJ once a long time ago, before I ever was into Jazz. I can't wait to meet him again. BTW, I respect Cap more than I do any NBA player past or present. |
I have a lot of respect for the Cap, as well. There would have to be something wrong with anyone who doesn't respect him. He's carried himself with class both on and off the court. |
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Bballguru5000 Star Player
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:49 pm Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
I have a huge Jazz framed photo gallery in my house. This pic is in there.....
http://www.radio-oh.com/jazz_about/trumpet/pic/chetbaker.jpg |
That's a hell of an image. Do you have the picture on your avatar framed, too? |
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ssiknick833 Franchise Player
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it's a crime that Kareem has not had a chance to be a head coach in the NBA. _________________
akola wrote: | KILL BILL Artest.
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RedSnapper Star Player
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:32 am Post subject: More Jazz |
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Is Christian Scott poised to be "the Next Miles Davis"? _________________ PGP Fgrpnt: 5906 0722 DB5F 5692 CAB1 F93A 04F8 2220 EBBF 18AA |
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jodeke Retired Number
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Who's the most versatile player on the roster and how important is versatility to winning? _________________ Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 11:34 pm Post subject: |
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Bballguru5000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
I have a huge Jazz framed photo gallery in my house. This pic is in there.....
http://www.radio-oh.com/jazz_about/trumpet/pic/chetbaker.jpg |
That's a hell of an image. Do you have the picture on your avatar framed, too? |
Man, oh man. I tried forever to get a picture suitable for framing of Clifford. Tracked down his son who is a Jazz DJ in San Jose, used a contact to get him on the phone. He told me he could send a poster, never did. Went to every website I could find, no Clifford Brown. Finally, I had a local artist do a charcoal of This pic.....
http://dkpresents.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/clifford_brown.jpg _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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Alpha Moderator
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:51 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
Now come on BBG, you KNOW that was MY question DB put up into KAJ's ear. Ain't nothing a Jazz fan likes talking more than Jazz. |
I KNEW IT!
Go find a Utah board you troll!!!
j/p, i like jazz as well. |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown Star Player
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:37 am Post subject: |
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Alpha wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
Now come on BBG, you KNOW that was MY question DB put up into KAJ's ear. Ain't nothing a Jazz fan likes talking more than Jazz. |
I KNEW IT!
Go find a Utah board you troll!!!
j/p, i like jazz as well. |
I went to Utah once. They tried to burn me at the stake. _________________ “It took many years of vomiting up all the filth I’d been taught about myself, and half-believed, before I was able to walk on the earth as though I had a right to be here.”
― James Baldwin, Collected Essays |
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Omar Little Moderator
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:56 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Alpha wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: |
Now come on BBG, you KNOW that was MY question DB put up into KAJ's ear. Ain't nothing a Jazz fan likes talking more than Jazz. |
I KNEW IT!
Go find a Utah board you troll!!!
Consider it a compliment. They could have just invited you to live there, which is far worse...
j/p, i like jazz as well. |
I went to Utah once. They tried to burn me at the stake. |
_________________ “We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” ― Elie Wiesel |
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Bballguru5000 Star Player
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 11:00 am Post subject: |
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KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | Bballguru5000 wrote: | KobeBryantCliffordBrown wrote: | davidse wrote: | i fully recognize the greatness of clifford and miles, but for my personal ear - chet baker.
oh, and great job DB
already posted my question on the first thread, so i don't see a point in doing it again, and i think questions from that thread should get considerred again with any new ones posted here. |
I have a huge Jazz framed photo gallery in my house. This pic is in there.....
http://www.radio-oh.com/jazz_about/trumpet/pic/chetbaker.jpg |
That's a hell of an image. Do you have the picture on your avatar framed, too? |
Man, oh man. I tried forever to get a picture suitable for framing of Clifford. Tracked down his son who is a Jazz DJ in San Jose, used a contact to get him on the phone. He told me he could send a poster, never did. Went to every website I could find, no Clifford Brown. Finally, I had a local artist do a charcoal of This pic.....
http://dkpresents.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/clifford_brown.jpg |
That's a great image. It's a bit odd that you can't find a single picture of Cliffy out there to frame. I've never seen a picture (postcard or poster) of his in any shop in the States. There was one shop in Paris that had images of his. Mini-posters. The card stock 8.5 X 11 inch variety. Next time I'm in the city of lights, I'll definitely look out for one to find you. Or anywhere else I frequent.
So which others do you have up on your walls? |
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What a great site Cap has.
What a great person he is.
I'd love to see him coach the Lakers someday.
I'd love to attend a class on Jazz taught by him. |
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